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Is Covington that good of a defensive player? Because his 3 pt shooting is a little over rated IMO
 
Blazinaway said:
That seems wrong unless there is some "trade machine" issue with Ariza's being guaranteed or not? has he been guaranteed already or when is the date teams have to cut him or keep him? I believe if we cut him we only owe him 1.8 mil for 2021
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ESPN trade machine has an issue with trading Ariza, they only count his guaranteed money.
 
Arizas actually a pretty good trade asset considering his guarantee, but we also kinda need him.
 
Buffalo Custard said:
Keep hearing rumors that Oubre might be available. Is that for real and if it is do we have anything that could tempt the Suns?
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I actually think we could get Oubre for Ariza, Simons and #46. I think we would then draft BPA that isn't a wing and then depending on if we get a big or a guard that can facilitate with #16 then we will sign the other with the MLE. For me ideally we would take Poku at 16, sign Kriss Dunn with the MLE and Nerlens Noel with the BAE or MCW and Josh Jackson with the MLE and still go with Noel BAE.

Rotation: Dame, CJ, Oubre, Zach, Nurk, Gary, Dunn, Noel, Nas, Wenyen.
 
Obviously my number one trade is still

CJ and Ariza for Harris, Richadson and #21

In an ideal world for me we would then use #16 on Poku, #21 on Scrubbs and #46 on N'Doye. We could then sign both MCW and Nerlens Noel with the MLE.

Depth Chart:

PG Dame, MCW, Ant, N'Doye
SG Gary, Richardson, MCW, Ant, N'Doye
SF Richardson, Hoodie, Harris, Nas, Scrubbs
PF Harris, Zach, Wenyen, Poku
C Nurk, Zach, Noel

Obviously the roster is Dame, Gary, Richardson, Harris, Nurk, Zach, Hoodie, MCW, Noel, Ant, Nas, Wenyen, Poku, Scrubbs and N'Doye but I wanted to highlight the multi positional versatility of so many of the players with the depth chart. I honestly think that this team is so much better than the one that results from the above trade. Better chance to win big now and a brighter future.
 
TBpup said:
Maybe that is why the Trade Machine doesn't approve the trade as of now.
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Both tradenba's trade machine and realgm's trade machine approve the trade but they count Ariza's contract as fully guaranteed, which it has to be in order to trade him. It's definitely a glitch with ESPN because when you do the trade it fails and says we have to cut the amount of salary that represents that Ariza's outgoing salary is only around 2 millioin.

This is what ESPN trade machine says when you try to trade Oubre for Ariza straight up:
  • The Trail Blazers are over the luxury tax threshold with this trade and the incoming aggregate salaries exceeded what's allowed via the 125% plus $100,000 rule. Cut $13,275,000 from the Trail Blazers incoming trade value to make this trade successful.
 
TBpup said:
Maybe that is why the Trade Machine doesn't approve the trade as of now.
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looks like this is the reason

*Under the current CBA, only the guaranteed portion of a player’s contract counts for outgoing salary purposes in a trade*

so 1.8m, for now.
 
BigGameDamian said:
Sign and trade Whiteside for Covington?
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The thing about sign and trades that so many in here keep getting wrong is that the team facilitating the sign and trade never gets anything close to the value of the player that they have the right to sign under the bird exception. They get a couple of second rounders, sometimes a player they want that the other team doesn't and almost always a trade exception. That's the way sign and trades work, even when they're for superstars the facilitating team gets very little. Go back and look at what Toronto got when they did the sign and trade for Bosh to make Miami's big 3. For Bosh who was an all nba player in his prime at the time, the Raptors got two first rounders one was their own 2011 first rounder that the Heat had the rights to and was heavily protected so the Heat wouldn't have been able to use it anyway and a protected pick from the Heat plus a trade exception.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Is Covington that good of a defensive player? Because his 3 pt shooting is a little over rated IMO
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He is a great defensive player. His 3pt shot is kind of like Ariza's. Not some knock down shooter but cannot leave wide open.

Best thing is he has a team friendly contract for which we need. Otherwise next year we will be "forced" to renew Ariza without any cap space available.
 
Scalma said:
Arizas actually a pretty good trade asset considering his guarantee, but we also kinda need him.
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tester551 said:
Portland can do that at any time. They dont have to wait for a certain date to guarantee his contract
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@tester551 if you look at this quote from @Scalma that I was replying to, I just wasn't sure what Scalma meant by "considering his guarantee". I was saying that if Scalma meant that the ability to let Ariza walk and save 10 million would be attractive to other teams then he would be wrong because that guarantee has to be locked in before a trade could go through. I know we can guarantee it at any time or at least after the moratorium is over.
 
blazerkor said:
@tester551 if you look at this quote from @Scalma that I was replying to, I just wasn't sure what Scalma meant by "considering his guarantee". I was saying that if Scalma meant that the ability to let Ariza walk and save 10 million would be attractive to other teams then he would be wrong because that guarantee has to be locked in before a trade could go through. I know we can guarantee it at any time or at least after the moratorium is over.
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Got it. It wasn't clear that everyone understood that point
 
GDiama said:
He is a great defensive player. His 3pt shot is kind of like Ariza's. Not some knock down shooter but cannot leave wide open.

Best thing is he has a team friendly contract for which we need. Otherwise next year we will be "forced" to renew Ariza without any cap space available.
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The guy has been on like 5 teams in 3 years. That makes me pause. To me, Little needs to shoot about 33% to match Covington's skillset. They seem very similar to me.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
The guy has been on like 5 teams in 3 years. That makes me pause. To me, Little needs to shoot about 33% to match Covington's skillset. They seem very similar to me.
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Philadelphia gave him to get Butler because he had value. He was not just fill in. Then Rockets gave up a 1st + Capela (a very good C) to get him. I don't see those trades being red flags or anything. His career 3pt% is .356, bit higher than Ariza's so same. He also was voted 1st team All D in 2018 and is locked on a tean friendly contract. We get him + we keep Little. Lillard could way past his prime when Little becomes the player RoCo is if he ever manages that.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
The guy has been on like 5 teams in 3 years. That makes me pause. To me, Little needs to shoot about 33% to match Covington's skillset. They seem very similar to me.
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Little isn't anywhere in the same league as little in the defense department or general BB IQ. Dude got moved a lot since he's a valuable 3 and D piece and it wasn't like he was traded for garbage. Teams gave up valuable assets for him each time. He fits like a glove in this offense IMHO.
 
craigehlo said:
Little isn't anywhere in the same league as little in the defense department or general BB IQ. Dude got moved a lot since he's a valuable 3 and D piece and it wasn't like he was traded for garbage. Teams gave up valuable assets for him each time. He fits like a glove in this offense IMHO.
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He still only shoots about 33% from deep. So even though I like him, I still think we overrate him.
 
Irish Trader said:
Looks like Paul George may be out in LA I like a CJ McCollum for George. Think it is a win win for both teams
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Nice thing about this trade it is a straight swap between two players no additional incentives works in nba trade machine
 
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