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CLE gets rid of Love's contract and gets the hometown star in CJ.
DAL gets their guy in Dragic as has been rumored.
TOR gets a young guard with star potential for Siakam who fits their timeline, and two firsts as compensation for taking on Love's deal. Guessing more needs to go their way, but this is the framework. Thoughts?

Dame / Simons
Powell / ?
Roco / Nas
Siakam / Nance
Nurk / Zeller
 
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CLE gets rid of Love's contract and gets the hometown star in CJ.
DAL gets their guy in Dragic as has been rumored.
TOR gets a young guard with star potential for Siakam who fits their timeline, and two firsts as compensation for taking on Love's deal. Guessing more needs to go their way, but this is the framework. Thoughts?

Dame / Simons
Powell / ?
Roco / Nas
Siakam / Nance
Nurk / Zeller
My thought is that getting Siakam for CJ and a first would be fantastic. I don't know if this is the way to do it but I can't come up with a better one right now.
 
My thought is that getting Siakam for CJ and a first would be fantastic. I don't know if this is the way to do it but I can't come up with a better one right now.
As always the limitation is finding teams that would want CJ. Cleveland seems like a reasonable destination. They invested a ton of $ on bigs and appear to want to take a bigger step. They also have resisted extending Sexton even if the dude put up 24 ppg last year.

Maybe CLE would resist this? Depends on how much they want Love gone.
 
As always the limitation is finding teams that would want CJ. Cleveland seems like a reasonable destination. They invested a ton of $ on bigs and appear to want to take a bigger step. They also have resisted extending Sexton even if the dude put up 24 ppg last year.

Maybe CLE would resist this? Depends on how much they want Love gone.
Yeah, I thought Cleveland was a good idea. I just don't know how receptive the Raptors will be. By going out and getting Dragic they are kind of saying that they aren't rebuilding but sticking with a team that is part young guys and part vets. They're hard to judge. I suspect if they start out the season winning a lot they won't be looking for a move like this but if they are losing like they did last season, they might just want to shake things up like this move does.
 
Hey nice try. I get why Portland does that, but why would the Raptors. Other than if Siakam is a pain in the kazoo, and they want him gone.
 
Hey nice try. I get why Portland does that, but why would the Raptors. Other than if Siakam is a pain in the kazoo, and they want him gone.
Even if Ujiri insists otherwise, i think the writing is on the wall for Pascal after they drafted Barnes and paid Anunoby last year. They also traded for Achiuwa, hard capped themselves with Birch and still have Boucher as their big men.

They seem to be ripe for a rebuild and are forward heavy while they have only Dragic and Van Vleet as their lead guards. Dragic has made noise about wanting a buyout/trade. Sexton makes sense for them.

He's 22 and averaged 24/4/3 last year on great efficiency but CLE has been rumored to get rid of him.

Think this lineup is great for the future:

Sexton/Van Vleet/ Anunoby/Barnes/Boucher with Trent off the bench.
 
Hey nice try. I get why Portland does that, but why would the Raptors. Other than if Siakam is a pain in the kazoo, and they want him gone.

Or unless they are going for a retool/rebuild and Siakam doesn't fit due to salary and age. (just guessing)
 
Yeah, I thought Cleveland was a good idea. I just don't know how receptive the Raptors will be. By going out and getting Dragic they are kind of saying that they aren't rebuilding but sticking with a team that is part young guys and part vets. They're hard to judge. I suspect if they start out the season winning a lot they won't be looking for a move like this but if they are losing like they did last season, they might just want to shake things up like this move does.

Heard on one podcast Gary Trent Jr could be the wildcard in what direction they go. If he is playing like a good starter, then with FVV Siakam and their vets all the sudden its a competitive team. But if GTJ disappoints and they have losses they might decide to explore trades, tank the season, and rebuild.

I'd think there could be a few teams like this with an allstar level player that they put on the market if the team struggles after a few months of the season.
 
on the heels of the news of Draymond and Rui being exempt from Media Day due to "excused" absences today as well as the Beal drama. (And yes, I know SF is more restrictive for unvaccinated athletes)

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Heard on one podcast Gary Trent Jr could be the wildcard in what direction they go. If he is playing like a good starter, then with FVV Siakam and their vets all the sudden its a competitive team. But if GTJ disappoints and they have losses they might decide to explore trades, tank the season, and rebuild.

I'd think there could be a few teams like this with an allstar level player that they put on the market if the team struggles after a few months of the season.
Thats why I think Philly could wait to trade Simmons.
 
on the heels of the news of Draymond and Rui being exempt from Media Day due to "excused" absences today as well as the Beal drama. (And yes, I know SF is more restrictive for unvaccinated athletes)

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I would just much much rather pony up an extra first if that's what it took and get Simmons for ourselves because I'm pretty sure two firsts are worth the same as Moses Moody.
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I would just much much rather pony up an extra first if that's what it took and get Simmons for ourselves because I'm pretty sure two firsts are worth the same as Moses Moody.
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as would i, but more and more, I feel like the Blazers are out on Simmons. Dame was dropping Green's name multiple times yet again in his PC today. I don't like the idea of swapping CJ for Draymond, hence the Rui addition.
 
as would i, but more and more, I feel like the Blazers are out on Simmons. Dame was dropping Green's name multiple times yet again in his PC today. I don't like the idea of swapping CJ for Draymond, hence the Rui addition.
Dray is spent and as a second option is terrible. I don't care how cool him and Dame are, if the team is even thinking about a Draymond Green type of player they should still be in on Simmons.
 
on the heels of the news of Draymond and Rui being exempt from Media Day due to "excused" absences today as well as the Beal drama. (And yes, I know SF is more restrictive for unvaccinated athletes)

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4 teams and we get the 3rd or 4th best player? Hard pass. By the end of his current deal, Green may not even be that. IMHO he is aging poorly and could easily fall off a cliff in the next couple of seasons.
 
Dray is spent and as a second option is terrible. I don't care how cool him and Dame are, if the team is even thinking about a Draymond Green type of player they should still be in on Simmons.
we've gone over this ad nauseum. I prefer Simmons to Green as well. I'm just conveying the Blazers' possible thought process given how frequently he brings up Draymond.
 
Quick says Portland is interested in Simmons in a one for one swap aka CJ. The better bet is another deal at the deadline tho.
Where did he say that? Not questioning you, just curious.
 
Where did he say that? Not questioning you, just curious.
what does this sentence mean from Quick? we're interested in a CJ for Ben deal?

Whether that means a pursuit of Philadelphia’s Ben Simmons — the Blazers are interested at a one-for-one price — or a deal to beat the Feb. 10 trade deadline remains to be seen.
 
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Don't love it, but I could live with that. CJ + RoCo is too damn much.

I agree, because the best lineup(s) after a CJ for Simmons trade includes RoCo as the SF

Dame-Powell-RoCo-Simmons-Nurkic or Dame-Powell-RoCo-Nance-Simmons. Plugging in Nas or Snell into the SF position defeats the purpose of the trade. And I don't believe Nance would be good as the starting SF
 
I agree, because the best lineup(s) after a CJ for Simmons trade includes RoCo as the SF

Dame-Powell-RoCo-Simmons-Nurkic or Dame-Powell-RoCo-Nance-Simmons. Plugging in Nas or Snell into the SF position defeats the purpose of the trade. And I don't believe Nance would be good as the starting SF
Obviously Simmons can defend the three so if the CJ and RoCo for Simmons and filler trade went down we could still easily start Dame, Powell, Simmons, Nance and Nurk but obviously we keep RoCo and our depth if we just trade CJ and probably draft considerations after taking the protection off the 2022 first.
 
Including RoCo in a deal for Simmons is foolish. It's 1 step forward, 2 back. And it affects the depth of the bench. I want Neil to re-sign RoCo for the long term.

Yeah better add an extra pick than RoCo. At this point we should gamble on CJ being the best available option for Philla. I don't think there is anyone better available out there for what they need.
 
Yeah better add an extra pick than RoCo. At this point we should gamble on CJ being the best available option for Philla. I don't think there is anyone better available out there for what they need.
At this point I would offer CJ a 2023 swap, a 2025 swap and both our 2024 and our 2026 first rounders.

We end up with Dame, Norm, RoCo, Simmons, Nurk, Nance, Ant, Nas, Snell and Zeller being a ten man rotation where everyone can legitimately play meaningful minutes.
 
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At this point I would offer CJ a 2023 swap, a 2025 swap and both our 2024 and our 2026 first rounders.

We end up with Dame, Norm, RoCo, Simmons, Nurk, Nance, Ant, Nas, Snell and Zeller being a ten man rotation where everyone can legitimately play meaningful minutes.

Seems like Philly would rather wait until trade restrictions are lifted in December or January, as well as the possibility an allstar becomes available.
 
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