Trade Ideas Thread

[wizenheimer]

There is more and more noise involving CJ and Indiana. I checked with a 'buddy' and he said it comes from Cronin's closes GM friend is Buchanon in Indy.

I'd do CJ for Turner and TJ Warren. Take a chance on Warren coming back from injury well. If not, then it would take 14M off next year's cap

I still don't see why Indy would do that trade. I think Turner is a better player than CJ...but it sounds, a little, like they want to dump him

 

[TBpup]

I'd do CJ for Turner and TJ Warren. Take a chance on Warren coming back from injury well. If not, then it would take 14M off next year's cap

I still don't see why Indy would do that trade. I think Turner is a better player than CJ...but it sounds, a little, like they want to dump him

Much like with CJ here with Dame, Turner is not a fit with Sabonis in Indy. Both are good players, but limited in their ceiling given who else they take the floor with.

 

[twobullz]

Another Idea from Bleacher Report.

Boston Celtics Receive: CJ McCollum, Ben McLemore

Portland Trail Blazers Receive: Juan Hernangomez, Romeo Langford, Josh Richardson, Robert Williams III

Would allow us to do another deal with Nurk? I don't know enough on the Boston guys to know if it really helps us as much as Bleacher Report makes it sound like.

 

[RR7]

I'd do CJ for Turner and TJ Warren. Take a chance on Warren coming back from injury well. If not, then it would take 14M off next year's cap

I still don't see why Indy would do that trade. I think Turner is a better player than CJ...but it sounds, a little, like they want to dump him

I'd love that or a Turner and Levert. I've seen a lot of fans sour on LeVert for much the same reason many of us have on CJ. Not that I want to bring in another chucker, but it's a lot easier to bring someone else's chucker off the bench, and so having him in the Clarkson, Lou Williams, etc. role as bench gunner maybe makes it so when Dame leaves the floor, we dont immediately fall apart and can't score.
Or, if it was Warren, for them, it's basically a straight Turner for CJ swap, since he hasn't played all year. I think Brogdon is a good fit alongside CJ, as a bigger point guard. And allows them to have Duarte in for now, a more preferred bench role.
Here's hoping!

 

[wizenheimer]

I'd love that or a Turner and Levert. I've seen a lot of fans sour on LeVert for much the same reason many of us have on CJ. Not that I want to bring in another chucker, but it's a lot easier to bring someone else's chucker off the bench, and so having him in the Clarkson, Lou Williams, etc. role as bench gunner maybe makes it so when Dame leaves the floor, we dont immediately fall apart and can't score.
Or, if it was Warren, for them, it's basically a straight Turner for CJ swap, since he hasn't played all year. I think Brogdon is a good fit alongside CJ, as a bigger point guard. And allows them to have Duarte in for now, a more preferred bench role.
Here's hoping!

I looked at LeVert but he makes 5M more than Warren so I figured the tax implications might make the Blazers balk. I'd be OK with him as well if Seattle didn't veto the trade because of money. Jeremy Lamb makes 2M less than Warren and 7M less than LeVert

by the way, I don't know if this is true:



maybe he will come back although a foot injury that takes that long to heal is a big red flag. He hasn't played in a year

 

[1 Eye Jack]

so 5 players + 2 picks for Simmons and Turner.

That decimates the team for Simmons basically. No thanks.

Agree decimates team, no thanks

 

[RR7]

I looked at LeVert but he makes 5M more than Warren so I figured the tax implications might make the Blazers balk. I'd be OK with him as well if Seattle didn't veto the trade because of money. Jeremy Lamb makes 2M less than Warren and 7M less than LeVert

by the way, I don't know if this is true:

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maybe he will come back although a foot injury that takes that long to heal is a big red flag. He hasn't played in a year

Yeah, I thought about that with the tax. Lamb makes the most sense, as he'd be out of their rotation with CJ there, but that would then push THEM in to the tax. They're about 1.4 million below the tax line.
If you throw in Snell on our end, and Torrey Craig on their end, they get out of Craig's deal next season, and only take on an extra "edit" 125K, keeping them under the tax still.

 

[Cugel]

RWIII is ideal. But Boston would not have any rim protection at all. Freedom doesn't contribute much on that end of the floor.

 

[illmatic99]

Just here to say Caris Levert is not the kinda ball stopping non shooter we need. Below average defender, not a three point threat, and largely useless off the ball. He's dollar store Derozan.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

There’s a reason why Indy has Levert on the block so quickly….

 

[illmatic99]

I'd do CJ for Turner and TJ Warren. Take a chance on Warren coming back from injury well. If not, then it would take 14M off next year's cap

I still don't see why Indy would do that trade. I think Turner is a better player than CJ...but it sounds, a little, like they want to dump him

we have no use for taking 14 mil off the cap next year. that's $ we can't use since we're so far ahead already. getting under the tax gets us the non tp MLE, which is about the best we can do.

and the FA market is dry as is. no need for capspace.

 

[wizenheimer]

we have no use for taking 14 mil off the cap next year. that's $ we can't use since we're so far ahead already. getting under the tax gets us the non tp MLE, which is about the best we can do.

and the FA market is dry as is. no need for capspace.

I wasn't thinking about cap-space as much as was thinking about the tax line and possibly being hard capped. Right now Portland has 111M in guaranteed salary and dead cap. And that's only for 6 players. They'd have to add 8 players and only have a margin of around 25M under the tax line to do so; and 31M under the apron. If they want to work a S&T for Nurkic or RoCo that extra 14M in margin under the apron could be important

 

[LayneStaley]

I feel like CJ, RoCo, Ant, and some picks could be turned into Turner and Grant. You pretty much have to trade Nurk then though and not sure what u get back? First rounder and expiring?

Dame/DSJ
Powell/McLemore
Nas
Grant/Nance
Turner/Zeller

I mean it’s top 8 in the west I guess, not chip level though.

 

[GDiama]

There’s a reason why Indy has Levert on the block so quickly….

Yes there is a reason and it's not because he is a bad player. Together with Sabonis and Turner they are their best trade assets.

 

[Orion Bailey]

This may be the first time a trade suggestion I've posted has ever been referred to as "solid". Red letter day for me!

ive never hit “solid” status. I think i peaked at “laughable” status. Pat yourself on the back!

Sorry, that comes across kind of dickish. Apologies.

I don't see any mention of it in the CBA. Everything I've ever seen is January 15th, or 3 months.

Not it didnt/ doesnt.

 

[Orion Bailey]

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POR
out: CJ, Nurk, Roco, Simons, 2 firsts
in: Simmons, Sabonis, Kemba

PHI
out: Simmons
in: CJ + 3 firsts (POR/POR/DAL)

IND
out: Sabonis
in: Nurk, Simons, 1 first (NY)
(they would still need a subsequent move for Turner obviously)

NY
out: Kemba
in: Roco + 2 firsts
(think NY might be the only one to balk, but if the value for roco is one pick, the value to dump kemba's contract for next year might be another)

We end up with: Dame/Powell/Simmons/Nance/Sabonis, with Kemba/Nas topping off the 7 man rotation. Figuring Ben Mac would get more run which he should. Losing depth here but a trio of Dame/Simmons/Sabonis is three bonafide all stars. Still would need to move Snell/Cody to duck the tax.

Love It!

Love these trade proposals that put zero to no thought into other teams' needs and situations.

what’s the insult?

if you aren't aware the bolded is insulting, then……

Don't ever pm me aGain!!!! LOL!

 

[Cugel]

Dame/Powell/Simmons/Nance/TURNER

 

[James lamphear]

Another Idea from Bleacher Report.

Boston Celtics Receive: CJ McCollum, Ben McLemore

Portland Trail Blazers Receive: Juan Hernangomez, Romeo Langford, Josh Richardson, Robert Williams III

Would allow us to do another deal with Nurk? I don't know enough on the Boston guys to know if it really helps us as much as Bleacher Report makes it sound like.

Only person I like in the Boston deal is Williams III

 

[James lamphear]

Dame/Powell/Simmons/Nance/TURNER

I don't think we will get Simmons or Turner. I don't think Simmons get traded until this summer and I don't think Pritchard will trade with us. But both players would be great additions to this team if some how it's happens.

 

[James lamphear]

The Atlanta deal I like I like Reddish since watching him in college and Bog I like him when played for the Kings but to make that trade to happen we might be the team giving up a 1st rounder due to Atlanta wants a first for Reddish.

 

[blazerkor]

I don't think we will get Simmons or Turner. I don't think Simmons get traded until this summer and I don't think Pritchard will trade with us. But both players would be great additions to this team if some how it's happens.

The Pacers and KP just became one of our best trade partners when Olshey got canned and KP's hire and protege was promoted to interim GM. I do not think that KP will do Cronin any favors at the detriment of the Pacers but we're way over here in the Western Conference and they're over there in the East. If the deal makes sense for KP and Buchanan (who is such a good friend that he was the first person Cronin called for advice when getting the promotion), in my opinion they'll do it with Cronin easier than any other executive in the league.

Also if Morey doesn't deal Simmons by the trade deadline and Simmons doesn't play he will get killed by the Philadelphia media and Sixers fan base for not getting a contending team a huge amount of talent that could possibly mean the difference between getting beat in the first round and contending for a championship.

 

[James lamphear]

The Pacers and KP just became one of our best trade partners when Olshey got canned and KP's hire and protege was promoted to interim GM. I do not think that KP will do Cronin any favors at the detriment of the Pacers but we're way over here in the Western Conference and they're over there in the East. If the deal makes sense for KP and Buchanan (who is such a good friend that he was the first person Cronin called for advice when getting the promotion), in my opinion they'll do it with Cronin easier than any other executive in the league.

Also if Morey doesn't deal Simmons by the trade deadline and Simmons doesn't play he will get killed by the Philadelphia media and Sixers fan base for not getting a contending team a huge amount of talent that could possibly mean the difference between getting beat in the first round and contending for a championship.

Still Pritchard got from this organization so it might not matter who the GM is dealing with us. But I might be wrong we will see. I don't Morey really cares what the media have to say but the owner will have to look at it if he the right man to the 76'ers so just might cost him job if he don't and if the 76ers get bounce in the 1st round.

 

[wizenheimer]

Still Pritchard got from this organization so it might not matter who the GM is dealing with us. But I might be wrong we will see. I don't Morey really cares what the media have to say but the owner will have to look at it if he the right man to the 76'ers so just might cost him job if he don't and if the 76ers get bounce in the 1st round.

I've never put much credit in the idea that Kevin Pritchard would not deal with Portland. In my view it was always another excuse for Olshey not doing anything. And I never heard about it till after word got out that Olshey held CJ untouchable in trade discussions for Paul George

I think KP would deal with Portland now, and in the past, if the Blazers made a good offer. I think that's especially true with Paul Allen being long gone

 

[James lamphear]

I've never put much credit in the idea that Kevin Pritchard would not deal with Portland. In my view it was always another excuse for Olshey not doing anything. And I never heard about it till after word got out that Olshey held CJ untouchable in trade discussions for Paul George

I think KP would deal with Portland now, and in the past, if the Blazers made a good offer. I think that's especially true with Paul Allen being long gone

As said before we will see in another month and half.

 

[wizenheimer]

As said before we will see in another month and half.

we'll probably see what Cronin can do. That won't tell us anything about what Pritchard would or would not be willing to do. We might not even have any idea of what Cronin is actually offering for whomever if no trade takes place

 

[Hoopguru]

he get 1 1/5 blocks per game how many does Nurk get 1/2 pg. He's a much better rim protector than Nurk. He shoots a high percentage?

Like I said trading CJ for Porzingis would be good for both teams. Hes much better than Nurk at the 5 and he can play the 4. He doesn't turn the ball over either.

 

[Hoopguru]

Who in here wouldnt trade CJ for Porzingis?
Go on record.....

 

[Cugel]

Who in here wouldnt trade CJ for Porzingis?
Go on record.....

I would teach myself to do a backflip if that trade went down. Not a hope in hell.

 

[Hoopguru]

I would teach myself to do a backflip if that trade went down. Not a hope in hell.

might be less likely now but a while back zinger was wanting a trade as he and Doncic weren't getting along.
Ive always felt he's about as close to an allstar that you could get for CJ.

 

[BigGameDamian]

Who in here wouldnt trade CJ for Porzingis?
Go on record.....

I wouldn’t have a problem with this trade. It does kinda make sense for both teams it just doesn’t move the needle much.