Trader Joe's drummed out of Portland neighborhood

[SlyPokerDog]

Popeye's beans and rice is sooooo good!

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I do like KFC's mash potatoes and gravy. There's one at the coast we hit up on rare occasion. And I do mean rare. So good, but sooo bad.

Yummmmm, KFC on the Oregon coast!

http://consumerist.com/2012/04/18/lawsuit-kfc-franchisee-made-employees-serve-expired-chicken/

 

[PapaG]

Popeye's beans and rice is sooooo good!

You beat me to it. It's making me drool right now thinking about it. That mix is so fantastic.

 

[PapaG]

Yummmmm, KFC on the Oregon coast!

http://consumerist.com/2012/04/18/lawsuit-kfc-franchisee-made-employees-serve-expired-chicken/

Nobody died. We soft Americans could stand to have our immunity levels rise against bacteria, even if it means a 15% kill-off of the weaker among us.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Lol at this thread turning to suburban white dads talking about how they eat fried chicken

 

[PapaG]

Lol at this thread turning to suburban white dads talking about how they eat fried chicken

I don't shop at Trader Joe's, either. :MARIS61:

 

[MarAzul]

Reading the reactions, I'm starting to feel like I'm on the wrong side here, so I'm going to have a go at defending the anti-Trader-Joe's crowd:

First, this is Portland. There's probably a million nice grocery stores within a half-mile of where this was going.
Second, this is Portland now, not Portland circa "Drugstore Cowboy". Everybody knows about it. Housing prices are going through the roof. You're probably going to get the San Francisco effect where teachers can't afford to live near their schools pretty soon. But this area is still affordable, even if it's a bit rough (but nothing like Flint/Detroit rough). The Trader Joe's isn't going to provide enough jobs to the locals to make up for the fact that their landlords will up their rents immediately and drive them out of an area they grew up in.

Am I close?

Seems like someone forgot to mention, Trader Joe's is a darn good gocery store. Some very good stuff under their band.

Then there was this program I watch about a month ago about how nutrition is poor in many urban areas because good grocery stores don't locate in the low end neighborhoods.
They didn't really give a good reason for that fact, but perhaps this is it. Nobody want to see the neighborhood improve, screw the nutrition. I never would have thought of it.

 

[MarAzul]

Nobody died. We soft Americans could stand to have our immunity levels rise against bacteria, even if it means a 15% kill-off of the weaker among us.

um, fuck that!

 

[MarAzul]

I do like KFC's mash potatoes and gravy. There's one at the coast we hit up on rare occasion. And I do mean rare. So good, but sooo bad.

No Wook, can't go there. There is something not right about a food place a blind man can identify from a block and half away.

 

[PapaG]

No Wook, can't go there. There is something not right about a food place a blind man can identify from a block and half away.

You're not a fan of Indian or African food either, I'm guessing.

 

[MarAzul]

You're not a fan of Indian or African food either, I'm guessing.

Oh hell I don't know, just something about KFC.

I went often to the Blue Ox in Lexington Kentucky which was the origin of Colonel Sanders Kentucky Fried Chicken back before it was a Franchise. It was really good. Some how since then,
the aroma has been enhanced beyond the point of return.

 

[MickZagger]

I actually agree with this group. Quit trying to force all the blacks out to Gresham. North East Portland should never be a suburb. They've done it in St. Johns but a lot of the true NoPo'ers stood their ground and its still culturally diverse.

Hell, there a new season less than a mile away on Williams anyways and there's another New Season's a couple miles away on Interstate. How many fucking rip off health food stores do we need?

 

[MickZagger]

Re: WTF?

Of course the PDC appears corrupt. They want development and they'll give a ton to get it. Those who understand their goals and what they're offering can get more of what they want than someone who has no experience. However, if you are a neophyte, they'll fall all over themselves to help you. I personally bought a building in N Portland and they gave me a subsidy to bring it up to current earthquake codes.

May I ask what part of N. Portland? Commercial or residential?

 

[MickZagger]

Why don't they just wait til its almost built so they can burn it down instead, like they did with that apartment building that was in the works?

 

[MickZagger]

Seems like someone forgot to mention, Trader Joe's is a darn good gocery store. Some very good stuff under their band.

Then there was this program I watch about a month ago about how nutrition is poor in many urban areas because good grocery stores don't locate in the low end neighborhoods.
They didn't really give a good reason for that fact, but perhaps this is it. Nobody want to see the neighborhood improve, screw the nutrition. I never would have thought of it.

Its not rocket science. Have you ever compared the prices?

 

[PapaG]

Why don't they just wait til its almost built so they can burn it down instead, like they did with that apartment building that was in the works?

That's the point. Nobody is going to try to build there when it will just be burned down, anyhow. Keeping all of the blacks in NE in the Interstate/Killingsworth/Columbia Blvd area seems to be the wish of Portland's leadership. I wouldn't be surprised if the white Democrats in power burned down the apartment building, just to keep the brown people contained in one area, and needing handouts by the PDC.

Look at what happened to NE Alberta. Nice stores go in, and suddenly white folk are buying up homes there, pushing the browns further toward the shitty part of the city, apparently.

 

[PapaG]

I'm still looking for a counter argument to the idea of bringing new businesses into this area of town.

Hoojacks, can you please explain why you think it's a good idea to keep the lot vacant?

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Slowly pushing lower income folks out, Echo Park (L.A.) style.

If you want a good example of this - read up on what L.A. did to this once seedy barrio.

 

[MickZagger]

Its one of those unwritten rules that black people live near MLK street in every city.

 

[Natebishop3]

This is what happens when you advertise your city as an urban paradise. More and more people move into the city, there isn't enough viable property so people start buying up the shitty older homes and fixing them. They're really only delaying the inevitable. NE will eventually be consumed by hipsterville, USA and there's nothing anyone can do about it.

I've been seeing plates from places like fucking Nebraska. When did we turn into LA? What are all these midwesterners doing once they get here? Working at Starbucks?

 

[MickZagger]

That's the point. Nobody is going to try to build there when it will just be burned down, anyhow. Keeping all of the blacks in NE in the Interstate/Killingsworth/Columbia Blvd area seems to be the wish of Portland's leadership. I wouldn't be surprised if the white Democrats in power burned down the apartment building, just to keep the brown people contained in one area, and needing handouts by the PDC.

Look at what happened to NE Alberta. Nice stores go in, and suddenly white folk are buying up homes there, pushing the browns further toward the shitty part of the city, apparently.

Subsidized housing buildings are being built up and down MLK and Interstate in the last 5 years.

 

[PapaG]

Slowly pushing lower income folks out, Echo Park (L.A.) style.

If you want a good example of this - read up on what L.A. did to this nice seedy barrio.

How is this an example of pushing low income folks out? It seems like Portland is embracing having a shithole full of dependents being caged in a small area with public transit being the optimal option.

 

[Natebishop3]

How is this an example of pushing low income folks out? It seems like Portland is embracing having a shithole full of dependents being caged in a small area with public transit being the optimal option.

Isn't the entire NE an example of pushing low income folks out? It sure seems inevitable.

 

[MickZagger]

This is what happens when you advertise your city as an urban paradise. More and more people move into the city, there isn't enough viable property so people start buying up the shitty older homes and fixing them. They're really only delaying the inevitable. NE will eventually be consumed by hipsterville, USA and there's nothing anyone can do about it.

I've been seeing plates from places like fucking Nebraska. When did we turn into LA? What are all these midwesterners doing once they get here? Working at Starbucks?

Meh. The gentrification in North Portland started taking place about 10-15 years ago in St. Johns. It was what really started the huge movement of blacks moving out to Gresham (well that and the revitalization of the Columbia Villa). Yet, you can walk into the Peninsular Fred Meyer at any given time and feel as if its about 50/50 white and black in there.

Gentrify all you want it will never be this oasis of white people like some want people to believe.

 

[maxiep]

Seems like someone forgot to mention, Trader Joe's is a darn good gocery store. Some very good stuff under their band.

Then there was this program I watch about a month ago about how nutrition is poor in many urban areas because good grocery stores don't locate in the low end neighborhoods.
They didn't really give a good reason for that fact, but perhaps this is it. Nobody want to see the neighborhood improve, screw the nutrition. I never would have thought of it.

What would Michelle Obama think?

 

[maxiep]

Re: WTF?

May I ask what part of N. Portland? Commercial or residential?

Right on MLK. It's a combination of commercial and residential.

 

[PapaG]

Isn't the entire NE an example of pushing low income folks out? It sure seems inevitable.

There is a lot of land in NE that is basically full of project housing or dying businesses. The area west of I-5 and Interstate is becoming Whiteville, just like Hollywood/Alberta. The swampland north Rosa Parks, and east of Interstate, is a wasteland, though. You'd be fine driving there during the day, but take a drive to Exit 306, go east, and then then go south from there and tell me that it's what Portland should look like.

 

[PapaG]

Meh. The gentrification in North Portland started taking place about 10-15 years ago in St. Johns. It was what really started the huge movement of blacks moving out to Gresham (well that and the revitalization of the Columbia Villa). Yet, you can walk into the Peninsular Fred Meyer at any given time and feel as if its about 50/50 white and black in there.

Gentrify all you want it will never be this oasis of white people like some want people to believe.

St. John's is White Hipsterville at this point. LOL

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I'm all for growth, I'm just tired of the PDC. They come in, declare large areas urban renewal zones and divert large amounts of property taxes away from schools, roads, and other city services. They buy up land with tax payer money, sit on it for years and then let it go for less than what they paid for it to a hand selected developer.

I'm tired of 30-40 unit apartments being built with no parking. Forcing the tenants to park on side streets and further congest neighborhoods.

I'm tired of maxs, trolleys & street cars. Tri-met now has a $1 billion budget deficit. We didn't need the OMSI streetcars, we didn't need the Milwaukie max line. We don't need streetcars to LO. Enough. Stop. Buses work great. Flexible. Cheaper to use per mile. Tri-met was the greatest bus system in the nation. Now it's reducing bus lines and times to fund rail that people don't want.

 

[MickZagger]

St. John's is White Hipsterville at this point. LOL

Meh. I'd say 60% white, 20% beaner, 10% black and the rest weird Asian and Micronesian cultures.

My grandma has lived in the same house for like 60 years, right across the street from Roosevelt and this huge Samoan family have been her neighbors for years. They whoop anybody's ass who fucks with Grams, yaknowhatamean?