Trades possibilities....and what teams are open for business (1 Viewer)

[SharpesTriumph]

Not so sure about that. If you play him to prove he is healthy, it’s increasingly likely that he will show his true colors and get injured once again.

Take what you can while you can

So get a 2nd round pick? We just sold two for cash. I don't see the point. Timelord is not fetching a FRP right now. If he comes back and is healthy and playing he might be worth a FRP. That's the reason we should keep him, and roll the dice he is recovered. There is upside but little cost.

If Timelord gets hurt again and we're stuck with him it's not much different then getting that haul of a second round pick.

 

[Natebishop3]

So get a 2nd round pick? We just sold two for cash. I don't see the point. Timelord is not fetching a FRP right now. If he comes back and is healthy and playing he might be worth a FRP. That's the reason we should keep him, and roll the dice he is recovered. There is upside but little cost.

If Timelord gets hurt again and we're stuck with him it's not much different then getting that haul of a second round pick.

We sold one for cash.

 

[LayneStaley]

Im confused.

34 traded for 3 2nds

40 sold for cash

So was 52 ever ours?

 

[RR7]

Im confused.

34 traded for 3 2nds

40 sold for cash

So was 52 ever ours?

40 for 52 and cash, and then 52 for cash

 

[Ripcity4life77]

I am not going to lie I was kind of pissed off that the Blazers walked in with 3 picks and only drafted one specially since they have a G-league team. However before I go off on Cronin and company will wait and see what happens cause they might have a trade or two in the works or something. The thing is if training camp starts and all we have done is pretty much run it back outside of Clingan and Avdija and maybe doing a minor trade or release of Banton and/or Reath will be kind of upset and raging at a certain GM so my norm - LOL

 

[Natebishop3]

I have a feeling that if Orlando strikes out in free agency, I suspect that’s where Ant is going.

 

[TBpup]

I would expect at least one more trade after free agency clears and team do or don't get who they want, i.e. Paul George.

 

[Predator]

So get a 2nd round pick? We just sold two for cash. I don't see the point. Timelord is not fetching a FRP right now. If he comes back and is healthy and playing he might be worth a FRP. That's the reason we should keep him, and roll the dice he is recovered. There is upside but little cost.

If Timelord gets hurt again and we're stuck with him it's not much different then getting that haul of a second round pick.

I highly doubt him playing a handful of games is going to prove to anyone he can stay healthy for a full season.

Even if you play him up until the trade deadline…

1) I’m not convinced that proves he is healthy enough to play a full season
2) I’m not convinced he won’t break before then

So we are back to my original point…

 

[Natebishop3]

I would expect at least one more trade after free agency clears and team do or don't get who they want, i.e. Paul George.

I have a feeling it's gonna be Simons and maybe Timelord. I don't think they're in a hurry to get rid of Grant. They wait until Orlando strikes out on Klay and then Simons is the best option.

 

[andalusian]

I have a feeling it's gonna be Simons and maybe Timelord. I don't think they're in a hurry to get rid of Grant. They wait until Orlando strikes out on Klay and then Simons is the best option.

I would be shocked if Orlando is not also in the KCP talks. Might be the best option for them, shoots 3s, defends. He made $15m last year, if I am Orlando, I am offering him what Ant makes for 2-3 years - he is a better option than either Ant or Klay, imho. I believe they have around $20m available to spend, would not be too hard to get to that $25m number.

 

[Ed O]

How many times have we excused Cronin's actions based on the supposition that he'll make better deals in the future?

He totally might make a deal during free agency, and he was building up the budget to do so... but given his track record, I find it hard to believe.

With that being said, I voted that he'd make no trades before or during the draft, so I was wrong there.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

I highly doubt him playing a handful of games is going to prove to anyone he can stay healthy for a full season.

Even if you play him up until the trade deadline…

1) I’m not convinced that proves he is healthy enough to play a full season
2) I’m not convinced he won’t break before then

So we are back to my original point…

It would prove he is healthy at this time. I don't think a physical in the off-season will give trade partners the confidence he has fully recovered as seeing him play well in some games would do.

I don't believe it needs to be him playing for an extended time or multiple months, just 3-10 games may be enough. Maybe even the preseason is enough.

There's a risk he can't even do that, or is diminished when he gets on the court, but I'd expect the trade return is better so it's a risk worth taking for the Blazers.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

I highly doubt him playing a handful of games is going to prove to anyone he can stay healthy for a full season.

Even if you play him up until the trade deadline…

1) I’m not convinced that proves he is healthy enough to play a full season
2) I’m not convinced he won’t break before then

So we are back to my original point…

So what trade return so you think Timelord will get today? Because if there is no FRP I don't see the point or why it matters if your "not convinced". Such a little return is worse than keeping him and rolling the dice.

 

[Cugel]

Do you think LAL would include Knecht in a trade for Grant?

 

[Pinwheel1]

Do you think LAL would include Knecht in a trade for Grant?

I think they need to give us either Reaves or Knecht

So either Reaves and Hachimura
Or
Hachimura and Gabe Vincent and Knecht. (and we move Vincent)

 

[SharpesTriumph]

I think they need to give us either Reaves or Knecht

So either Reaves and Hachimura
Or
Hachimura and Gabe Vincent and Knecht. (and we move Vincent)

Theres zero chance they're sending Reaves - he's a starter and likely their 3rd most valuable player even with Grant.

Knecht might be possible but I tend to think he makes more sense for their team than ours.

I'd say we take whatever salary they least want (might be Hachimura+Vincent you list) with the prize being 2029 and 2031 picks. That would be my preference - I'd take Knecht instead of a pick if they insist.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Do you think LAL would include Knecht in a trade for Grant?

17th pick in a very weak draft so about the worth of the 27th pick in a typical draft - we can do better.

His old age and shooting makes more sense on their team than ours too.

Now if the Lakers don't care much for him and won't cough up a second pick I'd consider it. I'd shop for a different trade partner first with Grant, but if we can't get one I'd do that Lakers deal instead of running back Grant here for another pointless veteran season.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Theres zero chance they're sending Reaves - he's a starter and possibly their 3rd best player.

Knecht might be possible but I tend to think he makes more sense for their team than ours.

I'd say we take whatever salary they least want (might be Hachimura+Vincent you list) 2029 and 2031 picks would be my preference - I'd take Knecht instead of a pick if they insist.

I would prefer Knecht and his rookie deal anyway. (Over Reaves)
Funny how Reaves is their 3rd best player, yet probably wouldn't start for the worst team in West.
He would not beat out Shae and he is too small for SF.

 

[CJ_is_Gone]

Theres zero chance they're sending Reaves - he's a starter and likely their 3rd most valuable player even with Grant.

Knecht might be possible but I tend to think he makes more sense for their team than ours.

I'd say we take whatever salary they least want (might be Hachimura+Vincent you list) with the prize being 2029 and 2031 picks. That would be my preference - I'd take Knecht instead of a pick if they insist.

I would want those picks in '29 & '31.

I don't care about Knecht, so I'd prefer not to take him.

 

[Strenuus]

The only way I trade with the Lakers is if there's a clause that we fleece them and guarantee they suck for minimum 60 years.

Otherwise, they can go fuck themselves.

 

[Natebishop3]

Anyone do this if GSW strikes out on PG? I'd cut Paul immediately. Apparently Paul and Ayton hated each other.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

I would prefer Knecht and his rookie deal anyway. (Over Reaves)
Funny how Reaves is their 3rd best player, yet probably wouldn't start for the worst team in West.
He would not beat out Shae and he is too small for SF.

Lakers roster is really weak, even if they trade for Grant I doubt they contend. Had amazingly healthy seasons from Davis/Lebron last year - with their typical missed games that team might be in the lottery.

That said Reaves has been much more effective in his career to date than Sharpe, so I'd tend to think he has the immediate edge if they were competing head to head. Reaves was a key creator on the WCF run. I like Sharpe potential much more but its more theoretical than something that has been proven on the floor.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Anyone do this if GSW strikes out on PG? I'd cut Paul immediately. Apparently Paul and Ayton hated each other.

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Unprotected picks? Yes!

I'm a bit doubtful Grant is worth two unprotected FRP - but if so I sure hope Cronin pulls that trigger.

There isn't a need to cut Paul - his salary would have to be guaranteed for the trade. Would be better to keep him until the deadline for trade options. We could have him do geriatric rehab at home or something.

 

[Natebishop3]

Unprotected picks? Yes!

I'm a bit doubtful Grant is worth two unprotected FRP - but if so I sure hope Cronin pulls that trigger.

There isn't a need to cut Paul - his salary would have to be guaranteed for the trade. Would be better to keep him until the deadline for trade options. We could have him do geriatric rehab at home or something.

They actually might be more willing to give us 2025 if they think they will be decent next year. But yeah, the later one might be protected top 4 or something like that.

 

[blazerkor]

Anyone do this if GSW strikes out on PG? I'd cut Paul immediately. Apparently Paul and Ayton hated each other.

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Yeah it's funny that I plugged that exact same trade in on fanspo like an hour ago. I think it makes sense for the Warriors and for us. I think they might get a protection on the 2028 pick and Joe should just fight to make sure that at some point that a FRP is guaranteed to convey from what I would assume will be a protected 2028 FRP but the 2026 FRP should be unprotected.

 

[Natebishop3]

Yeah it's funny that I plugged that exact same trade in on fanspo like an hour ago. I think it makes sense for the Warriors and for us. I think they might get a protection on the 2028 pick and Joe should just fight to make sure that at some point that a FRP is guaranteed to convey from what I would assume will be a protected 2028 FRP but the 2026 FRP should be unprotected.

They have until Sunday to make the PG deal. If it falls through, I could see Grant going to Golden State. I had no idea that they have all their picks.

 

[blazerkor]

They have until Sunday to make the PG deal. If it falls through, I could see Grant going to Golden State. I had no idea that they have all their picks.

Obviously 2025 isn't available to trade because they didn't pick in this draft... we did for Washington. Every FRP 2026 and on is available though.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

What the fuck was Richman talking about in his podcast. A 2% chance we cut Jabari Walker? A world where Jabari doesn't make the team? That would be idiotic.

 

[Predator]

It would prove he is healthy at this time. I don't think a physical in the off-season will give trade partners the confidence he has fully recovered as seeing him play well in some games would do.

I don't believe it needs to be him playing for an extended time or multiple months, just 3-10 games may be enough. Maybe even the preseason is enough.

There's a risk he can't even do that, or is diminished when he gets on the court, but I'd expect the trade return is better so it's a risk worth taking for the Blazers.

Like I said, playing 3-10 games doesn’t prove anything. Getting out of the preseason isn’t enough.

He would have to show that he could stay healthy for an entire year to increase his trade value in my opinion.

If I were a GM, I’d say this: “Yeah, he is healthy now. But he hasn’t shown he can stay healthy for an entire season, so as soon as I trade for him, as history suggests - he won’t be available in the playoffs when I need him. No thanks”

He is the Giancarlo Stanton of the NBA.

 

[Predator]

So what trade return so you think Timelord will get today? Because if there is no FRP I don't see the point or why it matters if your "not convinced". Such a little return is worse than keeping him and rolling the dice.

Because there is no reason to keep him.

I don’t want Chauncey to have any excuses to play vets over Clingan.