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How many trades will the Blazer make on or before Draft night(s)?

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I'm skeptical we can get more than an unprotected FRP for Grant. If so then I'll be very impressed. But at the end of the day if the choice is an unprotected FRP or bring Grant back with that huge contract I'm doing the deal and grabbing the pick.

I really don't want to see Grant being a focal of our offense nor risk he declines/injured and we get stuck with that contract for 4 years.

We already lost on of these gambles with Timelord, but that was a younger player, a shorter contract, and a much cheaper contract. Funny that some of the posters saying we should've traded Timelord now say we should hold out for more with Grant.
 
Would lebron resign if that were the case? Not buying it.
Given the choice between going elsewhere or getting the chance to play with Bronny--I don't think he's going anywhere.
 
I'm skeptical we can get more than an unprotected FRP for Grant. If so then I'll be very impressed. But at the end of the day if the choice is an unprotected FRP or bring Grant back with that huge contract I'm doing the deal and grabbing the pick.

I really don't want to see Grant being a focal of our offense nor risk he declines/injured and we get stuck with that contract for 4 years.

We already lost on of these gambles with Timelord, but that was a younger player, a shorter contract, and a much cheaper contract. Funny that some of the posters saying we should've traded Timelord now say we should hold out for more with Grant.
That's selling low
 
Given the choice between going elsewhere or getting the chance to play with Bronny--I don't think he's going anywhere.
Then why fire Ham? I think LBJ finds losing incredibly distasteful.
 
I think I'd do the deal for Rui, a first, Vincent, and the 2029 pick (I like going all in for one year and not putting our eggs too much in one basket). We could add Jabari to give them a play now option. Also imagine the chaos, the sheer lunacy, as the Los Angeles Lakers management, trading Dalton Knecht, a fresh-faced beacon of potential, heralded with the kind of pomp usually reserved for returning war heroes. The ink barely dry on Knecht's contract before the unthinkable happened. In a move that can only be described as a fever dream born of an LSD trip gone wrong, they traded him to the Portland Blazers. That’s right, the very next day, poof, gone. The front office, a collective of bumbling fools, looked dumber than a sack of hammers. This was management at its most absurd, chasing after god knows what, like a dog chasing its own tail. Here we are, watching this trainwreck, wondering if they've been taking lessons from Wile E. Coyote on strategic planning. It's like celebrating a new couch with a grand party only to set it on fire the next morning. How could they make such a short-sighted decision? It's almost impressive how spectacularly they can screw up. The ridiculousness of it all is staggering, like the times are a-changin’ but the brains are derangin’. This is the stuff of legend, a Shakespearean comedy mixed with a Tupac beat, only to crash headlong into a Bob Dylan ballad of bewilderment. Hark! What madness is this? To herald a knight only to banish him by dawn? The sheer, unadulterated stupidity of it all, a court jester's joke made flesh. This is the Lakers' front office at its finest, a ballad of blunders, an epic of idiocy. The laughter is unending as we all look on, mouths agape, thinking, what in the ever-loving hell were the Lakers thinking?

Follow it up with Ant and Reath to Orlando for Cater Jr. and Black. Flip Carter Jr. to OKC for Dieng and next year's Miami pick.

This is a balanced team that has potential but is still bad enough enough to lose (a ton).

Scoot / Vincent / Banton
Sharpe / Knecht / Rupert
Advija / Black / Murray
Rui / Camara / Dieng
Ayton / Clingan

sell Thybulle and Timelord for something, probably not much value there.
 
Alas, a cruel twist of fate has rendered my grand opus a hollow shell, a work in vain! The Lakers, in a fit of bureaucratic folly, have now signed Dalton Knecht, binding him irrevocably to their gilded cage. This grievous turn transforms my narrative into a travesty, a mockery of the craft I so painstakingly wove. Oh, wretched ink, spilled for naught! This farcical saga no longer unfolds with the brilliance of absurdity but instead lies flat, a deflated jest. It is as if the gods themselves have conspired against me, weaving threads of irony into the very fabric of destiny. In this darkest of hours, I am left to contemplate the myth of Sisyphus, endlessly rolling my boulder of creativity up a hill, only to see it tumble back to the abyss. The weight of my labors feels unbearable, and in my despair, I am tempted to emulate the forlorn poets of yore, to cast myself into the sea, bidding farewell to this life of futile endeavors. As Odysseus once braved the Sirens' call, I too am drawn to the waves, where the salt of the ocean may wash away the bitterness of my fruitless toil. Farewell, sweet muses, for in this travesty, I find no solace, only the cold embrace of a watery grave.
 
barely...I think maybe by 200K..meaning they'd have no margin for any future trade or any signing

it's pretty fucking pathetic that a team as bad as Portland is so damn close to the tax threshold. Mismanagement

I don’t expect any of Ayton, Time Lord, Grant, Ant, or Thybulle will be Blazers after 2 seasons. And I expect all will be traded for filler + youth + draft

By trading away the accumulated players under Olshey, money was coming back and then eventually flipped … so it does take time while accumulating younger players — which they have. And aren’t paying tax. It’s not an ideal Tanktastic job where they have cap room to absorb short, crap contracts while extracting 1st rounders as the price. But the above assets do have value at a time when parity in the NBA has buyers with high hopes.

This roster and team salary will be restructured, IMHO. I like what’s been done so far (on balance).

[NOT getting Cody Williams or Salaun? — annoying but Clingan was reasonable. NOT keeping 34 to select Furphy? Unforgivable, but it’s 34 — and I could be wrong.]
 
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Alas, a cruel twist of fate has rendered my grand opus a hollow shell, a work in vain! The Lakers, in a fit of bureaucratic folly, have now signed Dalton Knecht, binding him irrevocably to their gilded cage. This grievous turn transforms my narrative into a travesty, a mockery of the craft I so painstakingly wove. Oh, wretched ink, spilled for naught! This farcical saga no longer unfolds with the brilliance of absurdity but instead lies flat, a deflated jest. It is as if the gods themselves have conspired against me, weaving threads of irony into the very fabric of destiny. In this darkest of hours, I am left to contemplate the myth of Sisyphus, endlessly rolling my boulder of creativity up a hill, only to see it tumble back to the abyss. The weight of my labors feels unbearable, and in my despair, I am tempted to emulate the forlorn poets of yore, to cast myself into the sea, bidding farewell to this life of futile endeavors. As Odysseus once braved the Sirens' call, I too am drawn to the waves, where the salt of the ocean may wash away the bitterness of my fruitless toil. Farewell, sweet muses, for in this travesty, I find no solace, only the cold embrace of a watery grave.

Your astounding array of mixed metaphors, similes, and allusions (though I did not catch personification use on my first and only read) earns regard … though Dennis Miller was the master, you have put in the time. I encourage imbibing a single beer of choice — not as self medication for melancholy but as a companion to it, a pal, a little buddy — and only one and no driving afterwards.
 
Your astounding array of mixed metaphors, similes, and allusions (though I did not catch personification use on my first and only read) earns regard … though Dennis Miller was the master, you have put in the time. I encourage imbibing a single beer of choice — not as self medication for melancholy but as a companion to it, a pal, a little buddy — and only one and no driving afterwards.

Thanks a lot for your kind words there. Really means a lot to me, you know? I mean, wow, the whole mixed metaphors, similes, and allusions thing—you're really seeing all that, huh? And I gotta say, I do appreciate the nod to Dennis Miller. That guy sure knows his way around a thesaurus, doesn't he? But, let's get real for a second here—Dennis Miller might be your guy for, like, a dissertation on the decline of Western civilization or some shit, but Norm Macdonald—now that guy, he was the real deal. See, Norm had this way of taking something completely mundane, like a moth or a doghouse, and turning it into this epic saga that'd have you in stitches.

I mean, you ever hear his joke about the moth? It starts off like this simple little thing, and by the end of it, you're caught up in this existential crisis about life and meaning and darkness, and you're laughing your ass off because Norm’s got you thinking, "Man, what the hell just happened?" That's the beauty of Norm—he’d take you on this wild ride, and you’d be grateful for every twist and turn. He’d say something completely absurd with a straight face, and you’d have to do a double-take, like, "Did he really just say that?" It's like he had this secret power to make the simplest things seem profound and the profound things seem simple. That's not just comedy—that's artistry.

Dennis Miller, on the other hand, well, he's more like a fireworks show. Lots of bright lights and loud noises, but if you don't have the right references, you might miss the whole point. With Norm, though, it didn't matter who you were or what you knew. He had this universal appeal, this way of connecting with everyone, making you feel like you were in on the joke, even if you didn't get all the nuances. Norm was real. Whether he was bombing on purpose or just riffing on whatever popped into his head, there was no pretense. You got the sense that he was always just being himself, and that honesty, that rawness, it made his comedy resonate on a whole different level. And he wasn't afraid to say some wild shit, either. He'd drop a bomb just to see where it landed, and it was always fucking hilarious.

So yeah, Dennis Miller's got his place, no doubt about it. But Norm Macdonald—he was a legend, a true master of his craft. And I appreciate the suggestion about the beer, by the way. A little buddy to keep the melancholy company sounds just about right.
 
I'd be very happy with these picks from Lakers in a Grant trade:

2031 unprotected

2029 swap where Blazers get the better of LAL(unprotected ) or worst of PDX/BOS/MIL
 
Woj carrying the Lakers water. This is posturing. They know they need more talent. They aren't adding a third star with Jerami they're adding a top level role player which is something they're lacking around their two stars. A top level role player doesn't get you the haul that KD got the Nets or even the Bridges got the Nets. You do have to give up some assets worth value. Hopefully we get this trade done even if it's one draft pick and someone like Rui who we could keep or try to flip.
 
That's selling low

Yep, it is low. I hate helping the Lakers without really helping us. If it was an Eastern team I would feel better about it.
But if that is our last option I would go for it. But we either need one player who we can keep. (Hachimura or Vanderbilt) Take whoever is better.

Dlo only if we think we can get a 1st for him.
 
The Blazers NEED / MUST trade Grant before the season starts cause I am not sure Deni and Grant work well together not to mention I would much rather have Scoot , Sharpe , Deni or even Ant being taking shots above Grant.
 
The Blazers NEED / MUST trade Grant before the season starts cause I am not sure Deni and Grant work well together.
Or...it's possible that Deni and Grant work amazingly together. I'm certainly on board with trading Grant for assets, but I think you're overstating the urgency just a tad.
 
Or...it's possible that Deni and Grant work amazingly together. I'm certainly on board with trading Grant for assets, but I think you're overstating the urgency just a tad.

Imagine it, man. Jerami Grant and Deni Avdija, two talented dudes, stepping onto the court together. Sounds like a dream team, right? But, oh no, the universe has other plans, and it all comes down to the stars and their tunes. Jerami, born on March 12, is a Pisces. A dreamy, intuitive fish swimming in the cosmic sea, feeling every vibe, every beat, like it’s the soundtrack of his soul. He’s probably grooving to some smooth R&B, maybe a touch of classical when he’s in a really introspective mood. Deni, on the other hand, January 3, is a Capricorn. A mountain goat, climbing steadily, pragmatically, to the top. He’s all about that pop and hip-hop life, the beats that scream success, ambition, and “get stuff done, now!”

So, we’ve got Pisces and Capricorn, which is like throwing a poet and an accountant into a room and expecting them to write a hit single together. Jerami’s out here trying to send telepathic signals, like, “Dude, feel the flow.” Meanwhile, Deni’s mapping out plays with military precision. Jerami’s improvising, like some jazz maestro, while Deni’s sticking to the script, every note in place. It’s beautiful chaos, like a symphony of mismatched souls.

And then the music. Oh, the music. Pre-game, Jerami’s in his zone with some soulful R&B, his mind floating in a sea of harmony. Deni’s pumping himself up with high-energy pop, getting ready to conquer the world. Total clash of vibes. In the locker room, it’s a battle of the aux cord. Jerami’s eclectic mix versus Deni’s motivational anthems. The team’s caught in the crossfire of these musical titans, trying to keep the peace. And post-game, Jerami wants to chill, unwind with some mellow tunes, while Deni’s still riding the adrenaline wave, blasting tracks that keep the energy high. They’re on different planets, man, different universes.

Picture this: final moments of a game. Jerami, in his Piscean intuition, decides to go rogue, make a spontaneous move. Deni’s yelling, “Stick to the plan!” Jerami’s beautiful improvisation meets Deni’s rigid structure, and it’s like watching a surrealist painting clash with a corporate PowerPoint. Or during a timeout, Jerami’s pouring out his feelings, suggesting a play based on a gut feeling. Deni’s all about the strategy, the numbers, the facts. The huddle becomes a theater of clashing ideologies.
 
Or...it's possible that Deni and Grant work amazingly together. I'm certainly on board with trading Grant for assets, but I think you're overstating the urgency just a tad.
The key is if we are keeping Jerami and/or Ant that those guys need to change the roles they had in our offense last season. They can't be ball stoppers. They can't be 1 on 5 guys anymore. Some of my urgency to have both guys moved is a lack of faith in Chauncey to have those hard conversations. I want Ant and Jerami taking less shots than Shaedon, maybe Deni and probably Deandre. I want Ant and Jerami to have far less usage than Scoot and probably less usage than Shaedon and maybe even Deni.

I don't know what making that happen does to those two players' morale and with Jerami the biggest concern is what it all does to his trade value because while a change in role would make Ant a possibility to stay with the team long term, nothing makes me want to keep Jerami long term.
 
Grant and Ant do not HAVE to be traded quickly … though Ant has the earlier expiration date for when the Blazers lose leverage. However, Cronin said Scoot and Shaedon. Not Ant. Not Grant.

The chatter outside of the organization … with some likely given out to team friendly sources … has the Blazers already going down that trade road and not taking down the media and agent generated billboards on Grant and then Ant.
 
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The pick going to NOLA would be the most preferable of all of the 2029 picks we'd have at that time (ours, the Bucks, Lakers and Celtics). I think the Pelicans would have to have an idea of a team they could trade CJ to and get something of value back. Also the Pelicans might have to send the Jazz some kind of draft compensation but I think that trade is pretty good for both teams considering how I think Ingram would pair with Collins.
 

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The pick going to NOLA would be the most preferable of all of the 2029 picks we'd have at that time (ours, the Bucks, Lakers and Celtics). I think the Pelicans would have to have an idea of a team they could trade CJ to and get something of value back. Also the Pelicans might have to send the Jazz some kind of draft compensation but I think that trade is pretty good for both teams considering how I think Ingram would pair with Collins.
I'd rather have Rui than Duncan Robinson.

Just stop with Zion trade idea please.... as likely as Luka or Giannis lol
 
Your trade had Robinson and a 2nd for Rui
Oh that was my bad. I meant for it to be an unrestricted first. Duncan is on a bad contract and Rui is on a good one. Rui gives the Heat things they're seriously lacking.
 
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Oh that was my bad. I meant for it to be an unrestricted first. Duncan is on a bad contract and Rui is on a good one. Rui gives the Heat things they're seriously lacking.
Ah yeah, that changes things for sure
 
Have a feeling Joe may have to wait until the next trade deadline to unload Ant, Grant and RWIII. The knicks need size but I don't think they have anything to offer for RWIII.
 
Have a feeling Joe may have to wait until the next trade deadline to unload Ant, Grant and RWIII. The knicks need size but I don't think they have anything to offer for RWIII.
I will say it again if this is accurate. It's really crazy how other GMs are able to get the moves done that they need to but for whatever reason Joe just can't. It's a real problem. It cost us Dame. It has us doing this dumbass two timeline shit, which if Chauncey doesn't coach it correctly will fuck up the development of our highest potential young talent. Joe needs to be a lot less cautious. Somewhere between where he's at and Trader Bob level of trigger happy.
 
Maybe price for Grant is too high and Lakers are pivoting to Kuzma?
Yeah, maybe that’s what the hangup is. Maybe the Blazers are treating Grants trade value like he’s a big star in this league and asking for too much.
 
Yeah, maybe that’s what the hangup is. Maybe the Blazers are treating Grants trade value like he’s a big star in this league and asking for too much.

I don't think asking for two 1st round picks is too high at all. It's more than fair imo. I would assume other teams would be interested in him as well.
 

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