Trades possibilities....and what teams are open for business

[HoopsFanAZ]

A Mega-Meal-3-Team-Deal for the Blazers and 2 gotta win now teams:

Lakers — trade Rui, Gabe Vincent, and Knecht. Add in 1 first rounder, 2029 — Receive Brandon Ingram, Banton
Pelicans — trade Ingram (who they don’t want to pay, reportedly), Herb Jones, Trey Murphy — Receive Ayton (rumored interest) and Jerami Grant
Blazers — trade Ayton, Grant, Banton — Receive Jones, Murphy, Rui, Vincent, Knecht, Lakers 2029 1st (Vincent gone … Rui may be flipped)

Bigs — Clingan, Time Lord, Reath
A host of forwards — Jones, Murphy, Rui, Walker, Murray, Camara … and the starting SF— Deni Avdija.
Guards — Scoot, Sharpe, Simons, Knecht, Rupert

Blazers trade away 2 of their best 3 players, but get 4 younger guys who can shoot (2 also defend), and all are on the right timeline. [Vincent traded or waived.]

 

[bemac]

Rui would be a great fit at our PF position. He doesn't need touches, a tough defender who can be physical, and able to knock down the occasional 3 when needed. The more I think about fit, this is the one move I would like to see.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Rui would be a great fit at our PF position. He doesn't need touches, a tough defender who can be physical, and able to knock down the occasional 3 when needed. The more I think about fit, this is the one move I would like to see.

Is this true? Is he a tough defender? I have no idea. But if that is true then that makes it easier to accept him, a filler, and a 1st.
His defense was my only concern with him.

 

[bemac]

He is a good defender, though not a great rebounder, which is strange. I think he's a better fit than Grant, but I'm also a fan of ball movement.

 

[wizenheimer]

Maybe price for Grant is too high and Lakers are pivoting to Kuzma?

might be that Cronin was playing a little too much hardball

more than one first for Grant might be a bridge too far for the Lakers, especially with 4 years left on his deal at nearly 33M/year.

 

[wizenheimer]

I don't think asking for two 1st round picks is too high at all. It's more than fair imo. I would assume other teams would be interested in him as well.

might depend on the protections, but generally, with a 4-year contract at 33M/year, I think two first's is too heavy for a 3rd/4th option

 

[PtldPlatypus]

might be that Cronin was playing a little too much hardball

more than one first for Grant might be a bridge too far for the Lakers, especially with 4 years left on his deal at nearly 33M/year.

All my fault. He took my "Sell-low Joe" moniker a little too personally.

 

[Samuel]

Rui would be a great fit at our PF position. He doesn't need touches, a tough defender who can be physical, and able to knock down the occasional 3 when needed. The more I think about fit, this is the one move I would like to see.

#2 in the NBA in 3pt FG% among guys over 6-7 (min 200 attempts).

Even if he’s not in your long-term future he’s not a bad piece to have around off-the-bench.

 

[Samuel]

might be that Cronin was playing a little too much hardball

My guess: Cronin wants 2 unprotected firsts, they’re offering 1 second.

Cronin is just trying to get them to 1 unprotected first and ‘stuff’.

 

[Boomchakalaka2]

A Mega-Meal-3-Team-Deal for the Blazers and 2 gotta win now teams:

Lakers — trade Rui, Gabe Vincent, and Knecht. Add in 1 first rounder, 2029 — Receive Brandon Ingram, Banton
Pelicans — trade Ingram (who they don’t want to pay, reportedly), Herb Jones, Trey Murphy — Receive Ayton (rumored interest) and Jerami Grant
Blazers — trade Ayton, Grant, Banton — Receive Jones, Murphy, Rui, Vincent, Knecht, Lakers 2029 1st (Vincent gone … Rui may be flipped)

Bigs — Clingan, Time Lord, Reath
A host of forwards — Jones, Murphy, Rui, Walker, Murray, Camara … and the starting SF— Deni Avdija.
Guards — Scoot, Sharpe, Simons, Knecht, Rupert

Blazers trade away 2 of their best 3 players, but get 4 younger guys who can shoot (2 also defend), and all are on the right timeline. [Vincent traded or waived.]

too rich

 

[KingSpeed]

A Mega-Meal-3-Team-Deal for the Blazers and 2 gotta win now teams:

Lakers — trade Rui, Gabe Vincent, and Knecht. Add in 1 first rounder, 2029 — Receive Brandon Ingram, Banton
Pelicans — trade Ingram (who they don’t want to pay, reportedly), Herb Jones, Trey Murphy — Receive Ayton (rumored interest) and Jerami Grant
Blazers — trade Ayton, Grant, Banton — Receive Jones, Murphy, Rui, Vincent, Knecht, Lakers 2029 1st (Vincent gone … Rui may be flipped)

Bigs — Clingan, Time Lord, Reath
A host of forwards — Jones, Murphy, Rui, Walker, Murray, Camara … and the starting SF— Deni Avdija.
Guards — Scoot, Sharpe, Simons, Knecht, Rupert

Blazers trade away 2 of their best 3 players, but get 4 younger guys who can shoot (2 also defend), and all are on the right timeline. [Vincent traded or waived.]

No way New Orleans would give away Ingram, Murphy, AND Jones for Ayton and Grant. They lose that deal terribly. And we should know that.

 

[Natebishop3]

 

[cdub503]

Could this mean expanding on our Washington deal or did it already go through?

 

[Natebishop3]

Could this mean expanding on our Washington deal or did it already go through?

Maybe. I could see Brogdon getting rerouted.

 

[Mediocre Man]

It will be fun to watch when and where Grant ends up

 

[SwissBlazer]

It will be fun to watch when and where Grant ends up

Lakers seems like the only real possibility don’t you think?

 

[BonesJones]

What a straw-man argument here...

Knecht played 5 years of basketball in college. His first 3.5 years were very pedestrian by just about any standard. He had a very good season at Tennessee last year.

Dame pretty much dominated his last 3 seasons. Dame's statistical output for these 3 seasons was significantly better than what Knecht did last season.

All while Dame was about 1.5 years younger than Knecht in their last college season.

Knecht dominated the Big Sky two years ago then went and dominated the SEC last year!

He can play. Biggest steals in most drafts are older players that fell because of age.

 

[BonesJones]

Nice one liner but are you an advocate of giving up Jerami for Knecht and salary filler?

If we get another first, absolutely.

 

[Kell]

Pretty sure laker just signed their picks so no trades for them for a bit.

 

[Whyachi]

Maybe. I could see Brogdon getting rerouted.

Malcolm's expiring is good for a team that will get crushed in next summer's luxury tax. I haven't looked into 2025 OMG payrolls. Phoenix? Bucks ?? Malcom can shoot, he's got handles and vet savvy. There was a small handful of Blazer wins where Brogdon contributed good performances. There's no doubt he's still a baller.

The Wizards have options. They can squeeze some goodies from a contender, or just wash their hands and roll with the picks from Portland.

 

[Boomchakalaka2]

We need to get into the Markkanen sweepstakes.

Would no doubt take a three or four team deal to work, but a lineup of:

Ayton / Clinghan
Markkanen
Deni
Sharpe
Scoot

Worth pursuing? Grant and Ant out, Markkanen and a pick or two in?

 

[LayneStaley]

From BR…

Joes no pushover, I like it

 

[Kell]

From BR…
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Joes no pushover, I like it

Taken with a grain of salt on this one

 

[blazerkor]

From BR…
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Joes no pushover, I like it

You can like it to a point but if that just means deals that we need to get done and don't necessarily need to "win" won't get done because Joe is inflexible and unimaginative then we get stuck with rosters that don't make any sense. See every roster Joe has constructed.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Is there any danger of us not ending up with Avdija? Because that would suck. I don't think we've got much use for Bub Carrington.

 

[HailBlazers]

You can like it to a point but if that just means deals that we need to get done and don't necessarily need to "win" won't get done because Joe is inflexible and unimaginative then we get stuck with rosters that don't make any sense. See every roster Joe has constructed.

The current roster (in theory) is excellently constructed.

 

[CJ_is_Gone]

Is there any danger of us not ending up with Avdija? Because that would suck. I don't think we've got much use for Bub Carrington.

No.
Just can't be official until July 6th

 

[inconceivable]

We need to get into the Markkanen sweepstakes.

Would no doubt take a three or four team deal to work, but a lineup of:

Ayton / Clinghan
Markkanen
Deni
Sharpe
Scoot

Worth pursuing? Grant and Ant out, Markkanen and a pick or two in?

Again, we risk winning a championship and completely missing out of the stacked 2025 draft.

 

[Pinwheel1]

The current roster (in theory) is excellently constructed.

I agree. Once we trade Grant, we will look for the same type of player. Sure we will want a younger and cheaper upgrade, but he will have many of the same skills and length.

 

[Whyachi]

You can like it to a point but if that just means deals that we need to get done and don't necessarily need to "win" won't get done because Joe is inflexible and unimaginative then we get stuck with rosters that don't make any sense. See every roster Joe has constructed.

they run low on fuel. Injuries, road trips, bad coaching. The holes in the roster showed up very early last season. This team tried hard, sometimes. But they'd miss 10 shots in a row, with an offense designed to flatten out at the hoop. Leaving absolutely nobody back to play defense.

The straight up lazy ball becomes more frequent around midseason. Last January saw that brutal -192 road trip. In February the Blazers got smoked in all 9 games. The few wins in the final 2 months were against fellow cellar dwellers Memphis, Charlotte & Washington.

Cronin builds a shallow roster stocked full of young players. The whoopsies are too frequent to count. When the starting core have seen enough beatdowns, they grab a seat hand the wheel over to the Summer League squad.

Results from Cronin's rosters:
pick #7, pick #3, pick #7

... that's not bad for a 1st time GM.