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How many trades will the Blazer make on or before Draft night(s)?

  • 0

    Votes: 13 29.5%

  • 1

    Votes: 15 34.1%

  • 2

    Votes: 11 25.0%

  • 3

    Votes: 5 11.4%
  • Total voters
    44
wizenheimer said:
I'm skeptical about the logic. Timelord just finished his 6th season, and in those 6 seasons, he has played really well and looked healthy until he's injured. He has averaged 36 games played and 46 games missed in those 6 seasons. Other teams aren't going to see him and say "look at that, he's healthy now and will stay healthy". They know the odds of him staying healthy are exceptionally small and that the other shoe always drops

he has negative trade value and the 'illusion' of him being healthy won't alter that
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I don't think a trade partner will ever project he will be a healthy long term piece. Right now as you say he probably has negative trade value. But if he is healthy and playing well I could see a contender willing to roll the dice he is healthy for a few months and into the playoffs. It wouldn't be a great asset coming back, but maybe could be a highly protected FRP or a few seconds. That's much better than flipping him for negative value now.

If Timelord can't get healthy then Blazers just keep him and next summer he's an expiring contract.
 
Natebishop3 said:
He has like the 45th highest salary in the league. He’s PAID like a second or third option. And good thing for the Lakers because he would be their third option.
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Wouldn't 45th be a second option? Not sure how you can say he's paid like a 3rd option if half the teams would only have one player earning more.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Wouldn't 45th be a second option? Not sure how you can say he's paid like a 3rd option if half the teams would only have one player earning more.
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I said second or third option. Doesn’t that depend on what team he’s on? On the Blazers he was a second option with Dame. On the Lakers he would be a third option because they have two Hall of Fame caliber players.
 
wizenheimer said:
yeah...that's what you said before

I'm saying I do not believe his value will go up because he plays 30 game or so at 15 minutes a game. 6 seasons filled with injuries, lots of injuries, is not a trend, it's a pattern. Teams pay attention to patterns
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We could potentially trade
Ayton
Grant
Ant

In any trade, Timelord can be involved. Timelord now vs Timelord recently playing could be the difference in us not getting what we want or not. All I'm saying. . . I agree with you, teams consider history. But there is also recency bias. Memphis / Knicks could be watching Timelord drop 12/10/4/3 and they could talk themselves into being 3rd or 4th or team involved that could help make a trade we like done
 
inconceivable said:
We could potentially trade
Ayton
Grant
Ant

In any trade, Timelord can be involved. Timelord now vs Timelord recently playing could be the difference in us not getting what we want or not. All I'm saying. . . I agree with you, teams consider history. But there is also recency bias. Memphis / Knicks could be watching Timelord drop 12/10/4/3 and they could talk themselves into being 3rd or 4th or team involved that could help make a trade we like done
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sure....you're right. Something like that could happen. The chances it does are pretty small IMO, and in order to get Timelord that kind of exposure the Blazers would need to limit the minutes of Ayton and/or Clingan and give them to Timelord

what I'm saying is that he has generic negative value right now and it's unlikely that value will be higher by the trade deadline. So, if the Blazers can move his contract without adding any value or taking back negative value, they absolutely should
 
wizenheimer said:
sure....you're right. Something like that could happen. The chances it does are pretty small IMO, and in order to get Timelord that kind of exposure the Blazers would need to limit the minutes of Ayton and/or Clingan and give them to Timelord

what I'm saying is that he has generic negative value right now and it's unlikely that value will be higher by the trade deadline. So, if the Blazers can move his contract without adding any value or taking back negative value, they absolutely should
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F it, play him at PF if need be.

Anyway, with Derozan going yo the Kings, sounds like Markannen, Grant, Simons, Ingram, Kuzma, Lavine, Young, Butler are the next names to watch
 
Natebishop3 said:
This is what cracks me up. I’d much rather have Grant and the Wizards want two firsts for Kuz.
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That's good for us

Lakers can have Kuz or Grant for 2 1sts

Markannen,
Grant,
Ingram,
Kuzma,
Lavine,
Young,
Butler

Grant, Kuzma are Lakers choice. Same asking price.

The rest they cannot afford
 
inconceivable said:
That's good for us

Lakers can have Kuz or Grant for 2 1sts

Markannen,
Grant,
Ingram,
Kuzma,
Lavine,
Young,
Butler

Grant, Kuzma are Lakers choice. Same asking price.

The rest they cannot afford
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Pretty easy choice if you ask me. I wouldn't take Kuzma for Grant straight up. I don't think the 6M difference in salary would make me change my mind if I were the Lakers and I were trying to win a championship now.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Brooklyn is tanking. There's no reason for them to move Simmons at this point and they're definitely not giving up picks.
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Is there another team that values

Hachimura / Vanderbilt / Thybulle

In exchange for one UFRP and matching Salary

Maybe?
 
MickZagger said:
Why do I have no faith in the Blazers making any moves and running it back with Grant and Simons?

It would be idiotic managerial decisions.
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Yeah this is what I fear we may have to expect. Lock up the 3rd worst record in an epically weak draft, then try to make a playin push when theres a generational draft.
 
MickZagger said:
We have no business having Grant and Simons on a roster that is a complete rebuild.
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Yes, but it doesn't mean just trade them away for the sake of trading them away.

One of them will be traded, likely Jerami, this summer, for 2 firsts
 
MickZagger said:
Why do I have no faith in the Blazers making any moves and running it back with Grant and Simons?

It would be idiotic managerial decisions.
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Because people are under the illusion that we can be patient, but we can’t slow play the tank next season. There will be so many teams going full bore tank. If we roll out the same starting lineup I could see us being the sixth worst team and missing out on a superstar caliber player.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Because people are under the illusion that we can be patient, but we can’t slow play the tank next season. There will be so many teams going full bore tank. If we roll out the same starting lineup I could see us being the sixth worst team and missing out on a superstar caliber player.
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Amen. Get value in trades that’s in line with the Trail Blazers’ priorities.
 
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Natebishop3 said:
Because people are under the illusion that we can be patient, but we can’t slow play the tank next season. There will be so many teams going full bore tank. If we roll out the same starting lineup I could see us being the sixth worst team and missing out on a superstar caliber player.
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mega losing ping pong percentages will discover their own fate. Portland was supposed to draft ~6th last summer, and the ball bounced up and landed Scoot.
 
I think the move will be to scour the leagur for a Rob trade.

And in order to showcase him and get any value, Clingan will lose minutes early.

Not a great situation.

The Pelicans have no centers and three 2025 firsts. If we can squeeze just one of these picks from them, it would be a win.
 
To NO:
- Rob Williams
- Norman Powell

To LAC:
- Ingram

To POR:
- Terance Mann
- 2031 1st from LAC
 
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