Notice Trading Batum makes sense (1 Viewer)

[JfizzleBlazer]

Gibson just isn't very good and he's 30. I don't see anyone trading anything remotely close to valuable for him

 

[BonesJones]

Yeah but I could see the Bulls wanting Batum badly. They'd give up more than Gibson to another team. Maybe they send Gibson to OKC, OKC gives us 14, and the Bulls give us Dunleavey and 22? Something like that

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

I actually like dunleavy. Don't think he is that much better than dorell though.

 

[BonesJones]

Yeah. I'm not sure. Basically you shop Gibson and Nic and get the best package overall. If a team wants a little more than Taj you get Chicago to give it up

 

[RR7]

So Taj Gibson is reportedly "very angry" about Thibs firing. They'll have no cap space this summer and they need to upgrade at SF. I think they'd be extremely interested in Batum, except Taj doesn't fit our needs. We could work out a 3 team deal where Taj goes somewhere, that team sends us a package, and we send the Bulls Batum

I'd like Taj off our bench alongside Leonard, I think they'd fit really good together there. I wouldn't move Batum for him though.
That being said, Bulls have always been somewhat $$ conscience. They're on the hook for 63 million in salary next season, which doesn't include Butler's max deal. He'll take them right to that LT line. Need to figure out a way to add something small, but again with using him to save someone money, I'd offer them Kaman and Crabbe for him, saves 6.5 million immediately.

 

[BonesJones]

You want Leonard at the 4. They're interest in Batum would be so high IMO... They'd trade Gibson and decent filler. I'd try to work a 3 team trade though sending taj somewhere else

 

[RR7]

You want Leonard at the 4. They're interest in Batum would be so high IMO... They'd trade Gibson and decent filler. I'd try to work a 3 team trade though sending taj somewhere else

I envision their roles swapped offense to defense. Leonard plays the 4 on offense outside, Taj, who's a good offensive rebounder, lurks around down low for putbacks. On defense, they can swap, but generally, Leonard would play on bigger post up threats, Taj on the more stretch bigs.

 

[riverman]

nothing you said made any sense. I don't know how to respond. I'm talking about throwing a lob on a pick n roll. Have you ever seen Dwight Howard or Jordan on a pick n roll and how a gaurd will throw the ball up and they'll go get it? It's a 99% shot. And they get those 2 or 3 times a game. I'll take that over three 40% Robin Lopez jumpers. And I never saw an opposing big respect Rolos jumper over the driving guard. Please find me a clip where that happens once. I guess you didn't understand we were talking strictly pick n rolls here

I think Rolo, Freeland, Kaman and Leonard make up for those guys alley oop points at the freethrow line and it's not even close.

create the passing option? its not that hard to roll towards the hoop. An athletic big creates more of a passing option because you can throw it in a bigger window and he'll still go get it.

I've seen Howard and Jordan brick those alley oops and brick the freethrows that come with the foul...the alley oop is not a major factor if you can't make free throws and it's not a gimmie play by any stretch. You might be exaggerating the effective results of slam dunkers. I prefer bigs who can get to the line and make the freebies over highlight players anyday

 

[BonesJones]

I think Rolo, Freeland, Kaman and Leonard make up for those guys alley oop points at the freethrow line and it's not even close.

I've seen Howard and Jordan brick those alley oops and brick the freethrows that come with the foul...the alley oop is not a major factor if you can't make free throws and it's not a gimmie play by any stretch. You might be exaggerating the effective results of slam dunkers. I prefer bigs who can get to the line and make the freebies over highlight players anyday

I'd still take a dunk attempt over our center shooting jumpers any day haha. Out of those 4 only Rolo made 1 free throw a game. So having a bigger threat on offense and a guy that makes it harder to defend the pick n roll is negated by Rolo's and Kaman's free throws???

 

[riverman]

I'd still take a dunk attempt over our center shooting jumpers any day haha. Out of those 4 only Rolo made 1 free throw a game. So having a bigger threat on offense and a guy that makes it harder to defend the pick n roll is negated by Rolo's and Kaman's free throws???

I guess somebody must like the hack a Howard/Jordan playoff 4th qtrs where nobody else touches the ball...I'm not one of them. Gasol is the best center in the league and he's not a highlight dunker off the alley oop and he makes free throws. Now that's a guy I'd take. Tim Duncan is another. You and I have different ideas about what makes for great basketball. The slam dunk contest sucks as well.

 

[dviss1]

All you guys talking about Lopez and getting an athletic big to catch alley oops can't see the forest for the trees:



WHAMS on the 2nd team all defense center. Lest we forget the dunk on Andre Drummond? Fropez dunks when he needs to. You cats saying you want a center who dunks more but cannot hit a shot outside of 5 feet are trippin'...

Watch the Dunk on Asik @ :57. You know... they guy everyone in here was clamoring for INSTEAD of Fropez...

 

[dviss1]

You want Leonard at the 4. They're interest in Batum would be so high IMO... They'd trade Gibson and decent filler. I'd try to work a 3 team trade though sending taj somewhere else

Dude... How about mentioning who we would get for Batum? Just shipping him is stupid IMHO. ESPECIALLY for a bench player...

 

[santeesioux]

Dude... How about mentioning who we would get for Batum? Just shipping him is stupid IMHO. ESPECIALLY for a bench player...

Yeah, you would need to get at least Tony Snell back too and hope he could develop into a starting SF like next year.

 

[dviss1]

I'd still take a dunk attempt over our center shooting jumpers any day haha. Out of those 4 only Rolo made 1 free throw a game. So having a bigger threat on offense and a guy that makes it harder to defend the pick n roll is negated by Rolo's and Kaman's free throws???

You're simply wrong about this. Fropez dunks out on quality defensive centers. His BEST work has been out of the pick and roll. So much so we named it the Nick and Rolo. What made Joakim Noah a complete center? That's right his mid range jumper. Even Shaq had a good shot from 10 feet in.

 

[dviss1]

Yeah, you would need to get at least Tony Snell back too and hope he could develop into a starting SF like next year.

Ugh...

 

[BonesJones]

Dude... How about mentioning who we would get for Batum? Just shipping him is stupid IMHO. ESPECIALLY for a bench player...

idk who we'd get. We wouldn't get Taj though. It' be a trade centered around trading Nic to Chicago, Taj to a random team and we chose what we recieve from both

 

[BonesJones]

All you guys talking about Lopez and getting an athletic big to catch alley oops can't see the forest for the trees:



WHAMS on the 2nd team all defense center. Lest we forget the dunk on Andre Drummond? Fropez dunks when he needs to. You cats saying you want a center who dunks more but cannot hit a shot outside of 5 feet are trippin'...

Watch the Dunk on Asik @ :57. You know... they guy everyone in here was clamoring for INSTEAD of Fropez...

Its not about dunking on people, it's about having a wide range of motion above the rim to make it easier on the ball handler on the pick n roll, and harder on the defense. With Rolo if they cut off the pocket pass, then the whole pick n roll is ineffective.
And hell, I couldve dunked on Bogut on that play.

 

[BonesJones]

I guess somebody must like the hack a Howard/Jordan playoff 4th qtrs where nobody else touches the ball...I'm not one of them. Gasol is the best center in the league and he's not a highlight dunker off the alley oop and he makes free throws. Now that's a guy I'd take. Tim Duncan is another. You and I have different ideas about what makes for great basketball. The slam dunk contest sucks as well.

1.) They're looking to change it
2.) If they pull that cap you just put in Meyers

Everybody loved T-Rob. All he did was dunk, rebound, and brick free throws...

 

[BonesJones]

You cats saying you want a center who dunks more but cannot hit a shot outside of 5 feet are trippin'...

Well DeAndre Jordan can dunk from 10 feet so....

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

Yeah, you would need to get at least Tony Snell back too and hope he could develop into a starting SF like next year.

Yup, the basement of the deal would have to be Taj+Snell or McBuckets+22.

 

[BonesJones]

Yup, the basement of the deal would have to be Taj+Snell or McBuckets+22.

I think we could get at least 3 of those 4.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

I think we could get at least 3 of those 4.

That's what I meant, the or was to differentiate Snell and Dougie.

 

[BonesJones]

That's what I meant, the or was to differentiate Snell and Dougie.

oh gotcha. I wold think we could flip those guys for something good. It'd just have to be better deal then anything we could get by trading Batum straight up

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

oh gotcha. I wold think we could flip those guys for something good. It'd just have to be better deal then anything we could get by trading Batum straight up

I wonder if a three way would be possible to do a "super deal"

Blazers
In: Joakim Noah, Doug McDermott
Out: Nic Batum

Bulls
In: Nic Batum, Nikola Pekovic, #36
Out:Joakim Noah, Doug McDermott, Taj Gibson

Wolves
In: Taj Gibson
Out: Nikola Pekovic, #36

 

[BonesJones]

I wonder if a three way would be possible to do a "super deal"

Blazers
In: Joakim Noah, Doug McDermott
Out: Nic Batum

Bulls
In: Nic Batum, Nikola Pekovic, #36
Out:Joakim Noah, Doug McDermott, Taj Gibson

Wolves
In: Taj Gibson
Out: Nikola Pekovic, #36

I'd like that trade if Noah's healthy. Fans on the Bulls board have said he has no cartilage left in his knees, which after BRoy I don't want to deal with again

I'll come up with my own supertrade soon haha

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

I'd like that trade if Noah's healthy. Fans on the Bulls board have said he has no cartilage left in his knees, which after BRoy I don't want to deal with again

I'll come up with my own supertrade soon haha

The good thing about Noah is he is expiring. One year trial run to see if he still has it.

 

[BlazerWookee]

I wonder if a three way would be possible to do a "super deal"

Blazers
In: Joakim Noah, Doug McDermott
Out: Nic Batum

Bulls
In: Nic Batum, Nikola Pekovic, #36
Out:Joakim Noah, Doug McDermott, Taj Gibson

Wolves
In: Taj Gibson
Out: Nikola Pekovic, #36

If Noah dons the Scarlet and Black, I'll actively root against them until he's gone.

Unless they play the L*kers or the Cavs.

 

[BonesJones]

If Noah dons the Scarlet and Black, I'll actively root against them until he's gone.

Unless they play the L*kers or the Cavs.

Wook you hate everyone so..

 

[BlazerWookee]

Wook you hate everyone so..

Nope. While I'm not a fan of a large number of players, there are only a handful who I dislike strongly enough to not only withdraw my support for, but also to actively root against the Blazers.

Bry*ant, James, Noah, Felton, Anthony, J.R. Smith, Andersen, Hard-on, Turkoglu, Love...

Okay, maybe two handfuls.

 

[BonesJones]

Why do you hate Noah??? And yesterday weren't you hating on Paul Pierce? Haha