Trading for a center

[Scalma]

Uhhhhh Neil?

 

[Boob-No-More]

Uhhhhh Neil?

The only think I can think of is they don't want to risk him getting injured before they can trade him. Keeping him on the bench in warm ups sends the message he COULD play, but we'd rather not chance it.

BNM

 

[illmatic99]

We might miss out on guys because of our FAs being unable to be moved til Jan 15

 

[Scalma]

We might miss out on guys because of our FAs being unable to be moved til Jan 15

I doubt that. Why would Philly not wait an extra 2 weeks or whatever if they wanted Crabbe?

 

[Orion Bailey]

We might miss out on guys because of our FAs being unable to be moved til Jan 15

I doubt that. Why would Philly not wait an extra 2 weeks or whatever if they wanted Crabbe?

Teams wheel and deal all year long. It wont affect anything. They can easily work out all the details verbally beforehand and just put it to ink when its okay to do so. 2 weeks isn't like the off season.

 

[Denny Crane]

Teams wheel and deal all year long. It wont affect anything. They can easily work out all the details verbally beforehand and just put it to ink when its okay to do so. 2 weeks isn't like the off season.

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q85

 

[Orion Bailey]

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q85

I didn't even think about that, but exactly. The dates don't really mean a thing.

 

[Denny Crane]

I didn't even think about that, but exactly. The dates don't really mean a thing.

I don't think the Blazers have the cap space to absorb Noel's contract, though.

If we're sending (ultimately) two players out for Noel, then we could send one (if it matches Noel's contract) and the other after the 15th (December or January, depending on who).

Philly has the cap space to take a player for free (or a conditional 2nd round pick).

 

[Boob-No-More]

I doubt that. Why would Philly not wait an extra 2 weeks or whatever if they wanted Crabbe?

If they're not going to play Noel anyway, it might be in their best interest to wait. Crabbe, will instantly be their best outside shooter, which will help open up the court for Embiid and Okafor. They might actually win a couple more games and decrease their odds of getting the No. 1 pick.

They aren't making the playoffs, so they have absolutely zero incentive to make a trade sooner rather than later. The longer they wait, the more options become available. Maybe they're hoping for a bidding war for Noel, or at least multiple offers so they have a couple different options to consider.

BNM

 

[Denny Crane]

If they're not going to play Noel anyway, it might be in their best interest to wait. Crabbe, will instantly be their best outside shooter, which will help open up the court for Embiid and Okafor. They might actually win a couple more games and decrease their odds of getting the No. 1 pick.

They aren't making the playoffs, so they have absolutely zero incentive to make a trade sooner rather than later. The longer they wait, the more options become available. Maybe they're hoping for a bidding war for Noel, or at least multiple offers so they have a couple different options to consider.

BNM

Or they really hate having a very unhappy Noel around the other players, talking to the press, tweetering, etc.

 

[illmatic99]

Or they really hate having a very unhappy Noel around the other players, talking to the press, tweetering, etc.

This.

 

[Scalma]

Or they really hate having a very unhappy Noel around the other players, talking to the press, tweetering, etc.

Probably what the convo between brown and Noel was about yesterday. Btw, Noel hasn't blamed the coach, he's actually defended him for being in a tough spot. His frustrations have all been aimed at the front office.

 

[Denny Crane]

Not exactly a C, but he would fit in very well next to Plums.

 

[illmatic99]

Not exactly a C, but he would fit in very well next to Plums.

Does nothing to address our weaknesses

 

[Denny Crane]

Does nothing to address our weaknesses

I think he's a GIANT step up from Aminu (at PF) or Leonard.

Play him 36 minutes and he gets you 17/8 and .390 3pt shooting. DRtg under 104 (102 this season).

The guy is 25, and he's been a champion in Europe, MVP, best player on the best team there, etc.

He needs out of the clusterf*ck that's the Chicago Bulls organization.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Or they really hate having a very unhappy Noel around the other players, talking to the press, tweetering, etc.

Colangelo thinks benching him is punishment for criticizing the front office. No, the real punishment is making him wear a 76ers uniform any longer than absolutely necessary.

I can't even remember the last tie a player NEEDED to be traded this badly. They don't want him. He doesn't want to be there.

I totally cracks me up that Brett Brown just said this about not playing Noel tonight:

Brett Brown indicated Joel Embiid, Jahlil Okafor are primary bigs tonight. Doesn’t want to “force feed” 3 centers.

Brett Brown: ‘I don’t feel the balance of the team with 3 big men (playing). The ripple effects are real.’

Which is pretty much the same thing Noel said about having three starting quality centers on the same roster back in October that put him in Bryan Colengelo's dog house in the first place. Now, the coach is refuses to play Noel for the same reason Noel wants to be traded. Brown just validated Noel's previous comments.

Something has to give. No way in hell does Nerlens Noel make it past the trade deadline in a PHI uniform.

BNM

 

[Scalma]

I think he's a GIANT step up from Aminu (at PF) or Leonard.

Play him 36 minutes and he gets you 17/8 and .390 3pt shooting. DRtg under 104 (102 this season).

The guy is 25, and he's been a champion in Europe, MVP, best player on the best team there, etc.

He needs out of the clusterf*ck that's the Chicago Bulls organization.

I actually really like Mirotic. Stotts would love him, and I agree he's an improvement over Meyers and Aminu (at least offensively.) what would Chicago want?

 

[Denny Crane]

Colangelo thinks benching him is punishment for criticizing the front office. No, the real punishment is making him wear a 76ers uniform any longer than absolutely necessary.

I can't even remember the last tie a player NEEDED to be traded this badly. They don't want him. He doesn't want to be there.

I totally cracks me up that Brett Brown just said this about not playing Noel tonight:

Brett Brown: ‘I don’t feel the balance of the team with 3 big men (playing). The ripple effects are real.’

Brett Brown indicated Joel Embiid, Jahlil Okafor are primary bigs tonight. Doesn’t want to “force feed” 3 centers.

Which is pretty much the same thing Noel said about having three starting quality centers on the same roster back in October that put him in Bryan Colengelo's dog house in the first place. Now, the coach is refuses to play Noel for the same reason Noel wants to be traded. Brown just validated Noel's previous comments.

Something has to give. No way in hell does Nerlens Noel make it past the trade deadline in a PHI uniform.

BNM

Pau Gasol, Memphis.

I can probably think of more recent ones.

 

[Denny Crane]

I actually really like Mirotic. Stotts would love him, and I agree he's an improvement over Meyers and Aminu (at least offensively.) what would Chicago want?

Ed Davis might be enough.

He'd fit right in. Great backup C for Lopez and great backup PF for Taj. Similar salary.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Probably what the convo between brown and Noel was about yesterday. Btw, Noel hasn't blamed the coach, he's actually defended him for being in a tough spot. His frustrations have all been aimed at the front office.

Yep, Noel and Brown are actually on the same page - having 3 starting quality centers on the same roster makes no basketball sense, especially in today's NBA.

BNM

 

[Scalma]

Ed Davis might be enough.

He'd fit right in. Great backup C for Lopez and great backup PF for Taj. Similar salary.

I'd do it. Mirotic and Noel would be a sweet deadline.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Pau Gasol, Memphis.

I can probably think of more recent ones.

CP3 NOH.

But even in those cases the team didn't jerk around their own player and refuse to play him. This is the opposite of showcasing a player to maximuize his trade value.

BNM

 

[illmatic99]

The messed up thing is I think an Embiid- Noel duo would work better than Embiid-okafor.

Maybe thats what they're considering as they showcase Okafor.

 

[illmatic99]

I think he's a GIANT step up from Aminu (at PF) or Leonard.

Play him 36 minutes and he gets you 17/8 and .390 3pt shooting. DRtg under 104 (102 this season).

The guy is 25, and he's been a champion in Europe, MVP, best player on the best team there, etc.

He needs out of the clusterf*ck that's the Chicago Bulls organization.

Is his defense boosted by the other 4 players he plays with or does he contribute to it?

 

[LuckyShot]

BroLo seems like he'd be an ideal fit with Terry's system. I just don't see us prying him from Brooklyn.

 

[Scalma]

BroLo seems like he'd be an ideal fit with Terry's system. I just don't see us prying him from Brooklyn.

Maybe in the summer for Crabbe, but no thanks.

 

[Denny Crane]

Is his defense boosted by the other 4 players he plays with or does he contribute to it?

He's big and rebounds. If you don't give up 2nd chances, you give up less points.

His on the ball defense is plenty good enough.

He's 6'10", 220 lbs.

 

[Scalma]

Mirotic is pretty much Leonard on his best day.

 

[Denny Crane]

Mirotic is pretty much Leonard on his best day.

I'm willing to go with 2016-17 being an outlier. He's playing at SF much of the time, and he's really not happy with that. The team is unhappy with him. He is something of a head case. He's signed to a $7.5M-ish contract - not great in today's CBA.

If he performs like his first two seasons, he'd be a score. Especially since we could give him all the minutes he could handle.

 

[illmatic99]

Mirotic is pretty much Leonard on his best day.

Hes shooting 38% from the field this year and has never shot better than 40 in his 3 yrs. Not so sure about that