Notice Trail Blazers and guard Anthony Morrow agreed to a one-year, non-guaranteed deal

[MarAzul]

.417 career 3FG%. Can you do that?

BNM

Probably not. But then apparently he can't either.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Probably not. But then apparently he can't either.

Actually he can, and has. That is his career 3FG%. One season playing in a system designed to highlight the most ball dominant player, by far, in NBA history does not change that. OKC's offense was heavily dependent on Westbrook creating chaos. Chaos and havoc are not conducive to good 3-point shooting, especially for rhythm shooters like Morrow. It wasn't just Morrow, OKC was dead last in 3FG%.

Even after that sub-par season, Morrow has the 5th best career 3FG% among active players and 13th best all time. Put him in a system with ball movement that creates plenty of open catch and shoot opportunities and he will likely to return to his career norm.

BNM

 

[PDXFonz]

But not all that old for a 3-point specialist whose game doesn't depend on great athleticism.

Kyle Korver just led the league in 3FG% at the age of 35 (and 33 and 32).

Other than last season, which was a relatively small sample size, Morrow has always been one of the most accurate 3-point shooters in the league. Even after a down year, his career 3FG% of .417 ranks 5th among active players and 13th all time.

Hopefully, his poor shooting in OKC last season was a one-time aberration and he returns to something closer to his career average. If not, he can be waived and his non-guaranteed contract comes off the books. This is essentially a zero risk signing.

BNM

Can't be easy taking Russ' bail out shots

 

[MarAzul]

Actually he can, and has. That is his career 3FG%. One season playing in a system designed to highlight the most ball dominant player, by far, in NBA history does not change that. OKC's offense was heavily dependent on Westbrook creating chaos. Chaos and havoc are not conducive to good 3-point shooting, especially for rhythm shooters like Morrow. It wasn't just Morrow, OKC was dead last in 3FG%.

Even after that sub-par season, Morrow has the 5th best career 3FG% among active players and 13th best all time. Put him in a system with ball movement that creates plenty of open catch and shoot opportunities and he will likely to return to his career norm.

BNM

So he was crappy last year but not his fault. He will be great this year because it will be his responsibility. Thanks for helping me.

 

[Boob-No-More]

So he was crappy last year but not his fault. He will be great this year because it will be his responsibility. Thanks for helping me.

Time will tell, but he has only shot below .371 3FG% once in his 9-year NBA career. He has also shot ≥ .423 3FG% five times. He played last year in a system that was not conducive to good 3-point shooting. This season, assuming he makes the roster, he will play in a system that is much more favorable to good 3-point shooting. He will get better shots, but it's still up him to make them - something he has done very successfully in the past.

There is no way to predict with 100% certainty how well Morrow will shoot this season, but based on his past performance, combined with other Blazer role players posting career highs in 3FG% in the Stotts' system, I'd say the odds are good that he will shoot better this season than the .308 3FG% he shot last year.

BNM

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Agree with you here. It was a very bad move.

Dviss1 is a big NO supporter. It's like he can't do anything wrong.

One can understand why the move was made, but not agree that it was a good move.

Like the Afflalo deal.... Hindsight is 20/20. They took a risk that Crabbe would improve enough to be an asset to the team or an asset that could garner value in return. You win some, you lose some. I don't expect our GM to be right every time.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Like the Afflalo deal.... Hindsight is 20/20. They took a risk that Crabbe would improve enough to be an asset to the team or an asset that could garner value in return. You win some, you lose some. I don't expect our GM to be right every time.

At least Crabbe was reasonably healthy and continued to do well the one thing he is good at. There were other much worse signings last summer (Joakim Noah, Chandler Parsons, Timofey Mosgov, Luol Deng, etc.).

So yes, given Crabbe's lack of overall improvement, combined with the actual 2017-18 salary cap being much less ($99 million vs. $108 million) than projected at the time the Blazers matched BRK's offer sheet, it absolutely was a bad signing and the Blazers would have been better off long term not matching. But, that's the benefit of hindsight, it's almost always 20/20.

BNM

 

[Boob-No-More]

Our old pal Sergio Rodriguez return to the nba only lasted a year. I'd have liked him to compete here as a 2nd or 3rd string PG

He just simply is not, never has been, and never will be, a quality NBA player. He was gifted the starting PG role on a shitty team and promptly lost his job to T.J. McConnell. Lather, rinse repeat (see SAC/ Beno Udrih and NYK/Toney Douglas for other examples).

Anyone who ever advocates signing Sergio Rodriguez automatically forfeits their right to ever complain about Damian Lillard's defense.

BNM

 

[Boob-No-More]

He can draft, but he can't trade... except when he was forced to trade a starting center for a substitute injury-prone one.

Leave it to you to try to put a negative spin on the Nurk trade.

He was not forced to trade Plumlee. He could have kept him and let him walk for nothing and drafted a center with our lottery pick, or, since apparently we are allowed to apply hindsight to all transactions, he could have signed Plumlee to a qualifying offer and kept him around on the cheap for another season.

And, he didn't have to trade him to DEN for Nurkic AND a 1st round draft pick. He could have traded Plumlee for Jahlil Okafor, Roy Hibbert, or any number of other crappy centers. It was a great trade that turned this team's season, and their future, around.

Funny that you are now a Jazz fan. Wasn't Gobert also injury prone until last season?

BNM

 

[tester551]

Like the Afflalo deal.... Hindsight is 20/20. They took a risk that Crabbe would improve enough to be an asset to the team or an asset that could garner value in return. You win some, you lose some. I don't expect our GM to be right every time.

But the thing is, hindsight was not needed in either of those cases. I thought both were bad moves at the time.

After each deal was completed, I was hopeful for the best (as a fan) - but neither were moves I would have made because there was enough evidence (scouting / advance metrics) to assume that they were going to be bad bets.

 

[Blazers Roy]

Actually he can, and has. That is his career 3FG%. One season playing in a system designed to highlight the most ball dominant player, by far, in NBA history does not change that. OKC's offense was heavily dependent on Westbrook creating chaos. Chaos and havoc are not conducive to good 3-point shooting, especially for rhythm shooters like Morrow. It wasn't just Morrow, OKC was dead last in 3FG%.

Even after that sub-par season, Morrow has the 5th best career 3FG% among active players and 13th best all time. Put him in a system with ball movement that creates plenty of open catch and shoot opportunities and he will likely to return to his career norm.

BNM

I watched some of the Houston-OKC series and that series had some of the ugliest basketball I've ever seen.
They didn't even look like NBA players at certain parts - it was like watching a low tier European team play.

I'm not blaming a spot up shooter for not thriving in that mess.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

But the thing is, hindsight was not needed in either of those cases. I thought both were bad moves at the time.

After each deal was completed, I was hopeful for the best (as a fan) - but neither were moves I would have made because there was enough evidence (scouting / advance metrics) to assume that they were going to be bad bets.

I hated to see Barton go, and I've never been an Afflalo fan, but I totally understood the deal with where Portland was at the time. And I totally understood matching on Crabbe, given the way trades are done anymore and where the salary cap was projected.

 

[tester551]

I hated to see Barton go, and I've never been an Afflalo fan, but I totally understood the deal with where Portland was at the time. And I totally understood matching on Crabbe, given the way trades are done anymore and where the salary cap was projected.

I understood the moves, just didn't agree with them. That's the difference

 

[dviss1]

Like the Afflalo deal.... Hindsight is 20/20. They took a risk that Crabbe would improve enough to be an asset to the team or an asset that could garner value in return. You win some, you lose some. I don't expect our GM to be right every time.

This is my whole point. @tester551 in here with my name in his mouth without quoting me. Talkin' bout I'm a "big NO supporter". I'm like, doesn't he work for the Blazers? WTF wouldn't I support him?

It would be interesting to know what side of the fence he and @Sinobas fell on when it comes to matching Crabbe at the time...

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

This is my whole point. @tester551 in here with my name in his mouth without quoting me. Talkin' bout I'm a "big NO supporter". I'm like, doesn't he work for the Blazers? WTF wouldn't I support him?

It would be interesting to know what side of the fence he and @Sinobas fell on when it comes to matching Crabbe at the time...

Who even cares about their opinion? That's not meant as a diss to them (at least not on the surface). But you cant't be right every time. NO takes CALCULATED risks. That's his job. And he seems to be on the better side of those more often than not, and we're better off since joined the club.

 

[SIeepwalker]

Who even cares about their opinion? That's not meant as a diss to them (at least not on the surface). But you cant't be right every time. NO takes CALCULATED risks. That's his job. And he seems to be on the better side of those more often than not, and we're better off since joined the club.

THANK YOU

 

[WillG]

Morrow is a Frugal signing by Olshey, a type of signing he should have done in the first place instead of re-signing the one-dimensional Crabbe.
Non guaranteed/low risk. I like it.

Still really dislike stretching the Nicholson contract. They should have kept him at least as a end of bench guy to throw into a trade further down the track.

 

[Blazers Roy]

I still don't think Crabbe's contract was a big mistake.
Signing Turner and Meyers was the real mistake.

Want proof?
Neil got rid of Crabbe as soon as he decided to do so.
Getting rid of Meyers and Turner? mission impossible.

 

[Mr. Robot]

not much of a proof given it was the Brooklyn Nets who took him
otherwise hed still be here

 

[Blazers Roy]

not much of a proof given it was the Brooklyn Nets who took him
otherwise hed still be here

Plenty of teams with money looking for a wing who can shoot at a high level.
Do you really think Cuban\Sacramento\Indiana or even Denver would say 'no' to free talent?

 

[Sinobas]

This is my whole point. @tester551 in here with my name in his mouth without quoting me. Talkin' bout I'm a "big NO supporter". I'm like, doesn't he work for the Blazers? WTF wouldn't I support him?

It would be interesting to know what side of the fence he and @Sinobas fell on when it comes to matching Crabbe at the time...

I was against all three signings. I was amazed at the ridiculous contract offer Crabbe got from Brooklyn and doubly-amazed when the Blazers matched. Not a fan of playing players 3-4x their value.

 

[WillG]

I still don't think Crabbe's contract was a big mistake
Neil got rid of Crabbe as soon as he decided to do so.
Getting rid of Meyers and Turner? mission impossible.

Crabbe was a mistake. Neil was suffering from buyers remorse and jumped at the Nets offer of a 'get out of jail for 3mill for the next 7 years' card.

Turner has value because he can do so many things on the court. (though prob not $17 mill value)
Meyers is a posing, scaredy-cat ken doll; so, you are right, moving that contract is mission impossible!

 

[Scalma]

Neil traded Crabbe because no one would take Turner. Leonard is whatever his contract isn't prohibitive. See Miles Plumlee.

 

[Blazers Roy]

Crabbe was a mistake. Neil was suffering from buyers remorse and jumped at the Nets offer of a 'get out of jail for 3mill for the next 7 years' card.

Turner has value because he can do so many things on the court. (though prob not $17 mill value)
Meyers is a posing, scaredy-cat ken doll; so, you are right, moving that contract is mission impossible!

All of the contracts were a mistake, but Crabbe's contract is the only one which is tradable so it was the least of NO's mistakes.
Crabbe is only overpaid by about 7mil a year, he was still a pretty important part of this team and Neil would not have traded him if he could trade Turner or Meyers.

Turner doesn't have any value, the team was the same or better without him. No one will ever trade for him unless we pair up valuable assets with him = He's not an asset, he's a liability.

 

[dead247]

Morrow = championship

 

[SIeepwalker]

Turner will be good for us this year

 

[dviss1]

Neil traded Crabbe because no one would take Turner. Leonard is whatever his contract isn't prohibitive. See Miles Plumlee.

Link? Or is this more of your speculation?

 

[dviss1]

SlyPokerDog posts idiotic shit.

 

[THE HCP]

SlyPokerDog posts idiotic shit.

#BAM

 

[The Professional Fan]

This is a no-brainer signing. BNM has pointed out why, perfectly. No need for me to. I just don't understand some of the awful takes in this thread.