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yankeesince59 said:
...why would they do that?

...and Boehner?...consider the source.
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59, they do that because they hate cruz. I think once they get to know trump they will see the difference working with him and anyway thats the will of the people anyway. Can't be any worse than their past republican candidates
 
...who exactly is "they"?

...and Boehner dislikes Cruz for one reason, because Cruz completely out maneuvered him back in Oct of 2013...and everything gradually went downhill for Boehner after that.

...as far as the recent GOP candidates, I have to agree with you there...not much to choose from really.
 
yankeesince59 said:
...lol... so you're now admitting that there is no actual "fix" and there is nothing illegal being done and no rules are being broken.

...if that's the case, what exactly is your point?...once and for all, what is your point?...do you even have one?...do you even know what you're arguing about?

...if it goes to a contested convention you may not like what takes place... but that does not by default make what happens illegal. Complaining about rules that have been in place for a long time is nothing more than sour grapes.
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By all accounts, there is every reason to believe the GOP establishment is indeed trying to "FIX" a contested convention, that is, by all means trying to influence delegates NOT to go with Trump and ultimately slapping the faces of millions of American voters.
THAT IS THE POINT!
Sounds to me like you may be confusing the sort of "fix" associated with a boxer throwing a fight with an organized group using power and influence to convince others (delegates) to swing in their direction.
Sour grapes? Not a chance. The only sour grapes are coming from those who want to and are willing to try any "procedure" to stop Trump because in THEIR mind, they think they know better than the huge majority of voters who have given Trump a huge delegate lead and on the verge of clinching the nomination much to THEIR dismay, and sour grapes.

Please read:

“Rule 40.” Four years ago, Mitt Romney’s allies at the Republican National Committee added what seemed like a minor tweak to the party’s presidential nominating rules: in order to be eligible for the nomination, a candidate has to win a majority of the delegates from at least eight states.
But the funny thing about the RNC’s rules is how easy they are to change based on circumstances. Politico reported yesterday on the precarious future facing this obscure party rule.

“I’m not a big fan of the eight-state threshold. I think that’s an artificial number,” said David Wheeler, a rules committee member from South Dakota. “It was designed to prevent Ron Paul delegates – their votes from being counted. I don’t think it’s necessary to do that this year.”
This is one of those arguments that partisan activists are supposed to think, but not say out loud. It’s certainly true that Rule 40 was created to undermine Ron Paul, but when Republican officials publicly acknowledge this, it raises questions about the integrity of the entire process.
In effect, the argument is, “We manipulated the rules last time to undermine a candidate the party didn’t like, and now that circumstances have changed, it’s time to manipulate them again to undermine a different candidate the party doesn’t like.”
 
...wow, you are actually correlating that there are people who actually don't want Trump to win along with long standing campaign/election/nomination rules with a "fix"?...that's quite a stretch. It's not a fix, it's a concerted effort by people who don't want Trump as President, period.

...Trump and his team have already exhibited that they are lacking knowledge when it comes to the rules and that ignorance is his alone....and no rules have been broken or will be broken by his opponents...and I hate to be the one to break it to you but this is politics and it's been done like this for a long time, so it's not like there's something new going on.


...ultimately, it's up to the candidates to understand the rules and play the game accordingly.

...Trump should have had this locked up a long time ago...his fault.
 
yankeesince59 said:
...wow, you are actually correlating that there are people who actually don't want Trump to win along with long standing campaign/election/nomination rules with a "fix"?...that's quite a stretch. It's not a fix, it's a concerted effort by people who don't want Trump as President, period.

...Trump and his team have already exhibited that they are lacking knowledge when it comes to the rules and that ignorance is his alone....and no rules have been broken or will be broken by his opponents...and I hate to be the one to break it to you but this is politics and it's been done like this for a long time, so it's not like there's something new going on.


...ultimately, it's up to the candidates to understand the rules and play the game accordingly.

...Trump should have had this locked up a long time ago...his fault.
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One more time for laughs......and the best you can do is chalk it up to something along the lines of business as usual?
I'm surprised at you.
And once again Trump hit the nail on the head by calling out the political system. If "John Doe" was in a similiar situation as Trump at this point I'll bet some people would be agreeing with him.
The GOP actually admits to passing "rules" (legal of course, lol) to prevent a candidate whom "they" dislike from getting delegates regardless of how popular he is amoung voters and thwart the will of a large segment of American voters.....it stinks to high heaven.....but of course it's "legal".

“We manipulated the rules last time to undermine a candidate the party didn’t like, and now that circumstances have changed, it’s time to manipulate them again to undermine a different candidate the party doesn’t like.”
 
Just heard on the news that someone sent an envelope to Trump plaza addressed to Trump that contained a white powder, its currently being tested.
 
Rick2583 said:
Just heard on the news that someone sent an envelope to Trump plaza addressed to Trump that contained a white powder, its currently being tested.
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Yeah, second time a similar occurrence.
Hope they catch the skumbags responsible.

In March, an envelope containing white power and a threatening letter was sent to the Manhattan apartment of Donald Trump's son, Eric, WNYW-TV noted. The powder was deemed nontoxic but the note threatened the younger Trump that a subsequent envelope would contain hazardous materials if his father didn't drop out of the presidential race, WNBC-TV reported.
 
Rick2583 said:
Just heard on the news that someone sent an envelope to Trump plaza addressed to Trump that contained a white powder, its currently being tested.
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It was probably someone on his payroll ginning up media coverage and sympathy. Notice the protesters are gone from his rallies now that his mgr won't face assault chargers? Trump has staged everything thus far. Just wait, he's saving the assassination attempt for last as a way to reset his negatives. If he's daring maybe gets hit in arm or shoulder so he can get wrapped in a bloody flag.
 
1st Order of Business for next POTUS:

Iran's next ICBM launch, ties to N. Korea. Russian intercepts, and a laundry list of other Russian in-discretion's. Chinese have to be involved too, ntm- the war on currency, exchange, import-exports, et al.

Back to full blitz- ('Axis of Evil'); before the new POTUS can have his/her glass slippers put on their new crowned feet:
“The full planned launch of the Simorgh space-launch vehicle in February 2017, which coincides with the 1979 revolution, would likely be the next U.S. administration’s first major test with regard to the Islamic Republic,” said Amir Toumaj, an Iran expert at FDD.

“North Korea also likely procured Iranian assistance in the successful testing of a solid-fuel engine rocket in March 2016, a step towards developing ICBMs,” according to FDD.

http://freebeacon.com/national-secu...ail&utm_term=0_b5e6e0e9ea-95f8e608ed-45993021

http://freebeacon.com/national-secu...ail&utm_term=0_b5e6e0e9ea-95f8e608ed-45993021
 
blgridesagain said:
One more time for laughs......and the best you can do is chalk it up to something along the lines of business as usual?
I'm surprised at you.
And once again Trump hit the nail on the head by calling out the political system. If "John Doe" was in a similiar situation as Trump at this point I'll bet some people would be agreeing with him.
The GOP actually admits to passing "rules" (legal of course, lol) to prevent a candidate whom "they" dislike from getting delegates regardless of how popular he is amoung voters and thwart the will of a large segment of American voters.....it stinks to high heaven.....but of course it's "legal".

“We manipulated the rules last time to undermine a candidate the party didn’t like, and now that circumstances have changed, it’s time to manipulate them again to undermine a different candidate the party doesn’t like.”
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...lol...you're "surprised at me"?...and yes, it is quite legal. Again, it's called "politics", deal with it instead of whining about it.

...I politely asked you to do some research and educate yourself of the process so you wouldn't look so ignorant of how the process actually works, and so you scour the internet and copied and pasted that garbage?...did you even read the article? It's not even an actual quote from anyone.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/republicans-take-fresh-look-their-eight-state-rule

...but hey, you found it on the internet so it must be true, right?...the education continues.
 
psssttt, psssttt 59, I know there's aliens walking amongst us; trying to breed with our Women, Donkies and Goats, I read that much on the I-Net.

"Operation Alien Integration and Take Over of Earth"....yep, and both Chump and Hillary are from another planet too, they just forgot to install Chump's brains, before they sent him here....

anyone want to buy some beach front property in Phoenix...?
 
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yankeesince59 said:
...lol...you're "surprised at me"?...and yes, it is quite legal. Again, it's called "politics", deal with it instead of whining about it.

...I politely asked you to do some research and educate yourself of the process so you wouldn't look so ignorant of how the process actually works, and so you scour the internet and copied and pasted that garbage?...did you even read the article? It's not even an actual quote from anyone.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/republicans-take-fresh-look-their-eight-state-rule

...but hey, you found it on the internet so it must be true, right?...the education continues.
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from YOUR link:
Take notice, there ARE two names attached to QUOTES.
Looks like Rule 40 (very legal, lol) was "designed" to prevent Ron Paul's delegates from being counted.
"Designed"......lmao......"designed" to screw Ron Paul because the GOP establishment didn't like him- and they basically said "fuk you" to his voters.

From Your link:
Rule 40
Four years ago, Mitt Romney’s allies at the Republican National Committee added what seemed like a minor tweak, in order to be eligible for the nomination, a candidate has to win a majority of the delegates from at least eight states.
But the funny thing about the RNC’s rules is how easy they are to change based on circumstances. Politico reported yesterday on the precarious future facing this obscure party rule.
“I’m not a big fan of the eight-state threshold. I think that’s an artificial number,” said David Wheeler, a rules committee member from South Dakota. “It was designed to prevent Ron Paul delegates – their votes from being counted. I don’t think it’s necessary to do that this year.”
This is one of those arguments that partisan activists are supposed to think, but not say out loud. It’s certainly true that Rule 40 was created to undermine Ron Paul, but when Republican officials publicly acknowledge this, it raises questions about the integrity of the entire process.
In effect, the argument is, “We manipulated the rules last time to undermine a candidate the party didn’t like, and now that circumstances have changed, it’s time to manipulate them again to undermine a different candidate the party doesn’t like.”

Interestingly enough, one might expect Ted Cruz to oppose Rule 40, but as of yesterday, the Texas senator was actually making the opposite case.

Consider what Cruz told conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt yesterday:
“I think that would be a terrible idea for the Washington power brokers to change the rules, because they’re unhappy with the candidates who the voters are voting for. Under the rules, and you’re right, there is some irony in that it was the Romney Team that put this rule in place to prevent Ron Paul from being put on the ballot.

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There ya go! From your link.
But I already "researched" it. (post 874)

Fact- the GOP has a rule in place which can be changed accordingly to screw any candidate they don't like regardless of how many votes, states or delegates they may have only because the sh!t-ass GOP may not like them

Pretty good huh? Wonderful.....and very "legal".

You can stop playing the "whiner" card, it doesn't apply to those who aren't surprised and aren't saddened by Trump's current success despite the GOP and Super PACs pouring hundreds of millions of dollars in negative ads vs Trump and propping up a couple of their early candidates. And now we have two other candidates wasting our time who have already been mathematically eliminated with one of them winning just one state.

Maybe you can use the whiner card on a couple of people who expected the Trump train to derail months ago and are now reduced to posting angry name calling graffiti.
 
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...unbelievable...wtf does any of that have to do with your quote that you purposely highlighted being completely bogus ? You wrongly tried to quote something to support your stance that wasn't even an actual quote...you obviously did not take the time to even read the article from which it came...you simply copied and pasted it...and you were busted.

...here it is again;

“We manipulated the rules last time to undermine a candidate the party didn’t like, and now that circumstances have changed, it’s time to manipulate them again to undermine a different candidate the party doesn’t like.”

...and Jesus tap dancing Christ...stay on topic or don't respond at all.
 
nothing new, plagiarism, the gateway drug to ignorance ..

errant and/or- pointless points....

like a blank teleprompter, mirrors what's Trumptard heads....

If someone pulled the teleprompter plug on Chump, he'd go back to psycho babble...





They have no material of their own, ....
 
It really pains me to say this but either Clinton or Trump will be the next occupant of the White house.
 
yankeesince59 said:
...unbelievable...wtf does any of that have to do with your quote that you purposely highlighted being completely bogus ? You wrongly tried to quote something to support your stance that wasn't even an actual quote...you obviously did not take the time to even read the article from which it came...you simply copied and pasted it...and you were busted.

...here it is again;

“We manipulated the rules last time to undermine a candidate the party didn’t like, and now that circumstances have changed, it’s time to manipulate them again to undermine a different candidate the party doesn’t like.”

...and Jesus tap dancing Christ...stay on topic or don't respond at all.
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What the heck is wrong with you? Busted?
Of course I copied and pasted it.
Have you a better way of reading a quote from Cruz regarding rule 40(b) where he isn't in favor of the GOP possibly changing this rule at the convention which will either raise or lower the number of states a candidate is required to have in order for them to be placed on the ballot and receive delegates?
As of now, it's a never ending fluctuating tool which can be used by the GOP bigwigs to FIX and set the situation, i.e. a candidate need only to win the majority of delegates in one or two states to be placed on the ballot at the convention.
Cruz (to his credit) does NOT want to see a change, he prefers for it to remain the way it currently is (8 states needed), which eliminates Kasich......and Rubio...and Jeb? lol

Stop trying to make a mountain out of an ant hill.
Romney and the rest of his skumbag accomplices literally robbed Ron Paul from getting delegates by creating a "rule" (40) because Paul was a Libertarian.
And if the sh!t-heads controlling the GOP convention have a chance to create another "rule" which can pass the smell test to somehow screw Trump OR CRUZ, they would.

Go ahead, take a couple of swipes at me and have a ball.....take Matt with you...he's good at providing background music.
 
Here....forgive me for copying and pasting but I want to make it easier and straight to the point for us. (The link is below Cruz' comments)
This is Cruz talking (bless his heart)......NOT Trump.

"It was the washington establishment that put this rule in place. so now when the washington establishment candidates are losing, they want to change the rules to try to parachute in some candidate who hasn’t earned the votes of the people. that is nothing short of crazy. under the rules, we should operate under the rules. now i believe, still, that we’re going to earn 1,237 delegates before the convention by winning in the races that are coming up. but there is a real possibility that nobody gets to 1,237. and if that’s the case, we should operate under the rules that existed when this whole process started. and those rules say that in order to be on the ballot, you have to have won eight states. only two of us will meet that threshold – me and donald trump. those will be the two names on the ballot. And I think if the Washington deal makers try to change the rules to cook the books and insert their favorite deal maker, I think there would rightly be a revolt of the voters. We would have had elections in 50 states, and we need to honor the will of the voters and respect what they decide".

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...short_of_crazy_to_change_convention_rules.htm
 
Looks like this banter is going to end up with dueling pistols at 20 paces.
 
110 away from 1000 posts in this thread. Whooooooo!!!
 
Rick2583 said:
It really pains me to say this but either Clinton or Trump will be the next occupant of the White house.
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Rick....5yd line ain't a touchdown.

Latest poll has Cruz opening a 16pt lead in Indiana. Trump is toast.
 
HEY!!!! Knock your own balls loose...............................................................................................................................................pig.
 
If you want to bet on it Bovada has these current odds.
Trump -800
Cruz +500
Kasich +3300
 
blgridesagain said:
What the heck is wrong with you? Busted?
Of course I copied and pasted it.
Have you a better way of reading a quote from Cruz regarding rule 40(b) w.
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...for the 3rd fucking time, this was not a quote from Cruz...in fact, it's not a quote from anyone;

“We manipulated the rules last time to undermine a candidate the party didn’t like, and now that circumstances have changed, it’s time to manipulate them again to undermine a different candidate the party doesn’t like.”

...you fucked up by copying and pasting a piece of BS...can you back up your claim or not?...didn't think so.

...btw, when was your last baseball related post?...answer; 2 posts in 2 weeks and one of them was after a rare Yankees win which was to tell us not to jump off the cliff and the other was to compare this year's Yankees with last year's Yankees after the same amount of games played...thanx for the sphincter tightening insight.

http://www.sportstwo.com/search/2702962/

...the Yanx win, you pound your chest and tell us not to jump off the cliff, the Yanx lose, you develop lock jaw and disappear...same with Trump
...and you cannot stay on topic for shit...I point out the fact that you posted a BS quote and you reply with some other totally unrelated and irrelevant BS...as usual, very compelling.



...edit; on second thought, forget it, don't even reply...you are so full of shit that I won't waste any more bandwidth on you. You're a joke, enjoy conversing with yourself.
 
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totus44 said:
Rick....5yd line ain't a touchdown.

Latest poll has Cruz opening a 16pt lead in Indiana. Trump is toast.
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Cruz needs 101% of the remaining delegates.

The biggest challenge for Trump could be whether or not he'll be able to collect a couple/few unbound delegates at the Convention.
 
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