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Mattingly23NY said:
Geezus Ganja is legal. This state will have some hellacious taxes to collect, and a black market that's supposed to go away, will only explode in growth; infiltrate with much more ease, to kids who will be able to afford it, but not legal of age to buy it.
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... Nevada and Massachusetts too.
 
Talk to an election attorney....


...I don't have to... you made the claim that what Trump tried to do which was file a suit about something that was already law, happens in every state...that's simply not true but if you can actually back that up, I'm all ears.
 
doesn't matter now Ron. But my point was that, to be correctly characterized, was that legal challenges occur state-wide in all states leading up to and through the election cycle and this happens in every state. I know attorneys that volunteer here in CA polls and they say there are always motions being filed and that states, districts has judges on election duty to expedite addressing issues. This has essentially been our system since 2000 election lessons.
 
...again, Trump filed a senseless and frivolous suit implying voting fraud...even the judge was annoyed.

... you're talking about something entirely different...but yeah, I suppose this makes me a "Clinton Schill"?...lol




...as far as Trump goes, I'll wait for the ether to wear off and the eventual "buyer's remorse" sets in.
 
The people in the rust belt states, miners,cowboys and old cogs in Fla. helped lift his boat. I can't believe any poll Forever.
 
yankeesince59 said:
...again, Trump filed a senseless and frivolous suit implying voting fraud...even the judge was annoyed.

... you're talking about something entirely different...but yeah, I suppose this makes me a "Clinton Schill"?...lol

Sorry Ron but your Trump disdain was far greater and somewhat apologetic toward her. Intent in written form often does not accurately represent how we speak in person. Schill was a tongue in cheek chide.




...as far as Trump goes, I'll wait for the ether to wear off and the eventual "buyer's remorse" sets in.
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When haven't we had buyers remorse since 1976?
 
...no doubt the polls fooled us..damn sure fooled me...hell, one site said that Clinton's odds of winning were over 90%.

...I have to assume that some of Trump's votes came from people who were not fond of his antics, but despised Hillary even more. Luckily, he's have both the House nas Senate in his favor but I wonder if he'll carry a grudge against those who trashed him...guess we'll see.

...Trump boasts that he's "not a politician" but the fact is that being the POTUS is a political position and I guess we'll also see how well he handles it.



..."the wall" ain't gonna happen but I'd like to see some sort of firm immigration policy put in place. I don't mind someone coming to this country to better themselves but at least make them pay their fair share of taxes like the rest of us. But at the same time I cannot wrap my brain around so many freeloaders being on government cheese when these people should be able to perform the jobs that are given to immigrants.
...I also like to see the ACA either repealed or amended so that it makes sense and does not penalize the middle class...as far as the rest of Trump's bold campaign promises, I'm not buying it.
 
totus44 said:
When haven't we had buyers remorse since 1976?
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...Reagan.

...and fwiw, my "disdain for Trump", as you put it, is still there...sorry, but I'm not going to flip flop just because he won the election...and until he actually achieves real broad significant "change" as he's promised, I'm not going to suddenly start fellating him..until then, I award him no points.

...does this arbitrarily make me a "Clinton Schill"?...of course not. Nor does it make me a sore loser...I just don't believe his "Art of the Con" BS...I hope I'm wrong about him, I really do.
 
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stampedehero said:
The people in the rust belt states, miners,cowboys and old cogs in Fla. helped lift his boat. I can't believe any poll Forever.
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Looking at his voting coalition, it seems he carried those that suffer net loss from globalization. Now the US has benefited positively (on NET) from globalization, but a huge swath of folks were left behind. Based on pro Trump people I know, this characterization makes some sense.

He's got a 2 year honeymoon period. The court will stay conservative, Obama legacy gets unwound, things like 2A more secure. He's gonna pick up support if he stays the course.
 
time for a new thread? .....Trump....the end of the beginning!
 
totus44 said:
wont have to...sure trump will tweet about it, lol!
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so he gets his twitter feed back, the one that was taken away from him....? lol..

Didn't wan't to reveal his taxes for many reasons, one being: legal tax loopholes; which would show he's been a social leech feeding on the blood of taxpayers.... now how's a leech gonna' help America; without lining his own pockets first; or those of his moronic fkng retarded kids/son's more-so...???
 
totus44 said:
time for a new thread? .....Trump....the end of the beginning!
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r ya' sure, doncha' wanna' see 2,500 posts here first?

Or-
wait until Putin and Donald tie a Stoly drunk on together first, and streak down 5th Ave, holding hands and skipping; to the tune "Fiddler on the Roof".....:devilwink::blazerwookie:

"do svidaniya udachi"
 
personally I think trump will be good for the libertarian agenda where that feeds in well with populist agenda. its all going to come down to the team he surrounds himself with.

my list of 10 things to watch:

1-the supreme court vacancy(s) are a big deal. if he follows his list, courts secure for 2-3 generations.
2-obama care/health care reform huge opportunity for 2010/2012/2014 congress class to deliver the promise.
3-immigration reform...the wall - former more important than later. but he's a builder and buildings are symbols.
4/5-fed vs states rights; 2A secure from federal perspective, education back to the states would be great place to start.
6-infrastructure and jobs - interesting strategy. we have no deep pool as in the past of skilled laborers. infrastructure projects develops this potential.
7/8-foreign policy & trade - going to be interesting to see the art of the deal on a broader stage.
9/10-rebuild military, war on terror - CinC mantle will be interesting to see this evolve
 
totus44 said:
personally I think trump will be good for the libertarian agenda where that feeds in well with populist agenda. its all going to come down to the team he surrounds himself with.
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...^^^This.

...I've always believed that the secret to business success is to;

1. Surround yourself with talented people.

2. Pay them well.

3. Allow them to do their job.
 
yankeesince59 said:
...^^^This.

...I've always believed that the secret to business success is to;

1. Surround yourself with talented people.

2. Pay them well.

3. Allow them to do their job.
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exactly. simple formula, so damn hard to execute for many, including the Boss until MLB facilitated number 3, lol!
 
^^^
bet Christie is the first one to dive under the desk, for his dog bone...

I'd prefer states to fend for themselves with many things.
Tho' I have no faith at all in Ca, to ever be able to pull that one off. This state tho' has shown me its inept to execute anything, especially education; ie Prop 13.

That, and lets build a wall on all ends of South Central, East L.A. and Pacoima areas, just to name a few of many...
 
with my coming temp relo to Germany and my home company site here in CA likely not my future work site, I'm actually considering the option to move myself to another state. Washington....Seattle area my leading candidate right now. No shortage of water, cooler climate, and better gun laws than Kalifornistan.
 
I'm actually enjoying watching the celebs work themselves into a complete lather. I'll actually tune into Bill Maher's show tonight just to see how defeated and unhinged he will be.
 
Messiah717 said:
I'm actually enjoying watching the celebs work themselves into a complete lather. I'll actually tune into Bill Maher's show tonight just to see how defeated and unhinged he will be.
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We've got some seriously disturbed little snowflakes here in CA. UC system wide and SDSU had therapy dogs on campus.

Then at my gym, the undocumented are unhinged. I'm like, wtf were you thinking by buying a home in a country you aren't legally supposed to be in....
 
...yeah, I've noticed it too...and it's funny to watch and listen to the people (GOP and Dems) who only a few days ago were bashing him but are now cosying up to him.
...and just so I want be called a hypocrite or a Clinton fan, even though I was disgusted by his antics, I'm forced to accept the fact that he's now my POTUS too and have to hope that he makes me eat my words.
 
totus44 said:
We've got some seriously disturbed little snowflakes here in CA. UC system wide and SDSU had therapy dogs on campus.

Then at my gym, the undocumented are unhinged. I'm like, wtf were you thinking by buying a home in a country you aren't legally supposed to be in....
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...been watching all the demonstrations/protests around the country from people who are pissed because Trump has been elected, and just looking at the demographic factions in these crowds I found myself wondering just how many of these marchers even bothered to vote ?

...does no good to complain after the fact just because your man/woman didn't win...and if you did not vote at all, well, you have no right to complain about the outcome.
 
totus44 said:
Apparently the electoral college is now "rigged" because Clinton edges on popular vote.

Fine, a couple million libs are welcome to leave my state, lol!
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...not sure but I believe this makes the 3rd or 4th time this has happened...?



...Edit; just checked, this makes the 5th time.



In 1824, John Quincy Adams was elected president despite not winning either the popular vote or the electoral vote. Andrew Jackson was the winner in both categories. Jackson received 38,000 more popular votes than Adams, and beat him in the electoral vote 99 to 84. Despite his victories, Jackson didn’t reach the majority 131 votes needed in the Electoral College to be declared president. In fact, neither candidate did. The decision went to the House of Representatives, which voted Adams into the White House.

In 1876, Rutherford B. Hayes won the election (by a margin of one electoral vote), but he lost the popular vote by more than 250,000 ballots to Samuel J. Tilden.

In 1888, Benjamin Harrison received 233 electoral votes to Grover Cleveland’s 168, winning the presidency. But Harrison lost the popular vote by more than 90,000 votes.

In 2000, George W. Bush was declared the winner of the general election and became the 43rd president, but he didn’t win the popular vote either. Al Gore holds that distinction, garnering about 540,000 more votes than Bush. However, Bush won the electoral vote, 271 to 266.
 
Oh did anyone else notice both Canada and Mexico are now offering to "modernize" NAFTA? That cave didn't take long, lol!
 
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