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When you consider the candidates running for President you have to realize that this country has really gone to shit.
OT ...Trump...beginning of the end?
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...^^^Mess, it seems that it's been that way for the last several elections...I mean, is this really the best this country has to offer ?
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How much damage did the "God fearing" humble peanut farmer do to our country? It took decades and billions and billions of dollars to dig out from the mess he left at home and abroad. When he didn't have his nose up Arafat's ass, he was badmouthing candidate Reagan to the Russians during "negotiations".....
And, Donald Trump is no less "evil" without more "shady" deals in his business over 30-40 years than the "personal business" of JFK, LBJ, Bill Clinton and Richard Nixon or Dubya.
Obama was a nice squeaky clean candidate and he has become our most farthest leftwing President in history (home/abroad).
Recent poll- 90% of Germans are now against taking in any more refugees from Islamic countries- Trump was well ahead of the curve on that. There are now Nationalist movements going on in Germany, England and Holland has already stepped up a couple of years ago. It has already been established that people who are backing Trump are convinced he will NOT be unstable as President and will be a better leader with more inclusive varied competent policies and he is DEFINATELY a candidate who is anti-left, yet he isn't a rigid one trick pony like Cruz or Rubio.
Some are talking like naive scared little schoolgirls.
Cruz is a dead-end if he ever made it to the White House (which he wont), and Rubio looks like the green excitable nervous kid. Trump has at least just as much intelligence with much more life experience and will be more cool under pressure than Hillary, Ted and Marco.
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Sorry Ron, I'm not buying it. Its like the NY Daily newspaper who are so anti Trump, every day I'm reading about Trump & the KKK (David Duke) but they praise & mention nothing about Hilary's glorifying long time friendship that she had with Robin Byrd. My point as far as these so called polls It's all in who you ask & who's doing the talking. JMO.
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...it's not just the link I posted...every poll I've seen points to Hillary beating Trump...the GOP is fractured at the moment and there are a lot of republicans who do not want Trump under any circumstance.
...Trump is a rude loud mouthed bully who cannot speak to specifics as far as any of his "plans" would work...he's a cartoon. And like I said, Hillary is no better...not much of a choice.
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Yep.....and I have to laugh at those shmucks who are hinting at Trump being some kind of racist. He's been a famous high profile figure in NYC for years and something wouldn't been known or suspected a LONG time ago if that was the case. As for the NY Daily news, it has always been to the left of the NY Post. The little puke liberal Mike Lupica is their top mouthpiece.
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The Republican Party as we knew it was already doomed due to the changing demographics and pop culture of the country. Specifically in the larger and bigger cities which go a long way in carrying states in elections. As for Trump not laying out any specifics, I guess you may have missed something. By the way, he is very soon going to lay out his "health plan" policy.
The GOP has let it slip away and Trump could be defining a new movement or possibly saving the Republican Party whether "they" know it or not despite being thought of as a "bully" by some.
Newsflash- Historical U.S. Presidential campaigns were never confused with Sunday School.
If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen..... ......and Trump is taking heat from all and every angle. And still standing tall.
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When it gets to the general election and trump against hillary if she's not indicted it will be trump in a romp as he will take some of those guaranteed den states and turn them into gop states. Since feds are giving immunity somewhere a grand jury is impaneled which means the justice dept signed off on this and the grand jury will be indicting and the queen bee will be one of them. Obama in the final twist of his I hate the clintons knife will wait until she has the nomination in may and then let the indictment happen. Since bernie can't even be competitive in the general and won't have enough delegates the demo will have a brokered convention and uncle joe will be the candidate which will even be a worse drubbing than hillary. All the shitheads like romney and the rest of the do nothing establishment for decades might accomplish will be keeping trump from the magic 1237 number maybe leading to a possible brokered convention. I say possible because if the gop was dumb enough to try and subvert the peoples vote of trump with a puppet of rubio by selecting him, trump goes 3rd party, all his followers go with him, the gop implodes and you hand the election to the dems regardless of who they run which results in another liberal on the court making rulings turning the country upside down. Mess, you were right in what you said about need more good people to run but when you see the kind of shit that the candidates are submitted to both fairly and unfairly with the stress on their families the only people who are willing need ultra thick skin and a I don't give a shit attitude. We have tried establishment candidates for years and a liberal rascist scumbag like obama to disastrous results. I'm willing to bet trump can only do better than his predecessors. And unlike his predecessors he will be smart enough to hire the right people in the key positions and actually take their advice. Trump 2016.
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...one more time...as of now, every poll I've seen from registered voters, if the election were held today, Hillary is ahead of Trump head to head...and Cruz is ahead of Hillary head to head...and Rubio is ahead of Hillary head to head.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/01/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-poll/
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...s/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guyben...cruz-lead-hillary-trump-trails-badly-n2127268
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-general-election-trump-vs-clinton
http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/01/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-poll/
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...s/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guyben...cruz-lead-hillary-trump-trails-badly-n2127268
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-general-election-trump-vs-clinton
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I agree with about everything I've read here on this subject.
Simply stated, the Elections of the past few decades have been more of a vote for the lesser of two evils, going way back when.
Debates, and lots of Rhetoric on what candidates will do, with NO emphasis or explanations on how they're going to accomplish anything. We've basically heard of no specifics at all, from any candidate. Just rhetoric, ie "I'm going to send them back", HOW????
I'm going to build a wall 50 feet high and charge Mexico for it, ...HOW???
I'm going to repeal Obama's Un-Affordable health care act, ... HOW???
I'm going to ensure Social Security is strong and secure.....HOW???
I'm going to ensure our Military is state of the art, and America Strong Again, .... how and how.
Not one of these things can one man or President do by himself, without the consent of Congress, and other Political or Federal Agencies...
but boy do they all seem to know what they're doing, with NO specifics, and/or if there have been specifics, they always fall short of an explanation, that is logical, rationale and capable.....
This race has become as absurd as Frat House; and or- Student Body Elections. One big popularity contests with no specifics, no details, no meat or substance, only tons of bullshit rhetoric.....Sad, very sad state of affairs we find our Nation in....
Simply stated, the Elections of the past few decades have been more of a vote for the lesser of two evils, going way back when.
Debates, and lots of Rhetoric on what candidates will do, with NO emphasis or explanations on how they're going to accomplish anything. We've basically heard of no specifics at all, from any candidate. Just rhetoric, ie "I'm going to send them back", HOW????
I'm going to build a wall 50 feet high and charge Mexico for it, ...HOW???
I'm going to repeal Obama's Un-Affordable health care act, ... HOW???
I'm going to ensure Social Security is strong and secure.....HOW???
I'm going to ensure our Military is state of the art, and America Strong Again, .... how and how.
Not one of these things can one man or President do by himself, without the consent of Congress, and other Political or Federal Agencies...
but boy do they all seem to know what they're doing, with NO specifics, and/or if there have been specifics, they always fall short of an explanation, that is logical, rationale and capable.....
This race has become as absurd as Frat House; and or- Student Body Elections. One big popularity contests with no specifics, no details, no meat or substance, only tons of bullshit rhetoric.....Sad, very sad state of affairs we find our Nation in....
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This may be news and a new concept to some, but it is very possible for a President to get things done and funded of course with the help of a friendly congress having a good enough majority from the same party- I think it's called "the President's proposed budget"...you may have heard of it?
These budgets contain misc cuts, streamlined adjustments and/or defunding to ineffecient wasteful programs (in POTUS' mind) while also increasing funding and manpower to programs which the President deems more important and vital. Then it gets sent to congress and they either pass it or not....In the later case it then comes down to POTUS trying to persuade congress, make his points and taking it to the American people with news conferences, ect as Reagan was very good at.
It's called leadership, being influencial and being tenacious enough to stick it out or going with a strategic compromise on some "insignificant" lesser evil proposed from the opposing party which is what Obama has done very adeptly for the most part getting his way with a weak gutless REPUBLICAN congress - case in point, Obama's last monstronsity budget which Boehner and company passed.
Think about it.
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...pretty much Rick....it's a very sad state of affairs.
...if I had my choice of one of the remaining candidates, it would be...well, never mind.
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Correct. Plus 1 on 1 Cruz slaughters Donald 56-40. A vote for Donald is a vote for Hillary.
GOP voters are up and Dem voters are down, because most primaries allow crossovers. What makes anyone believe these Dems voting for Trump would do so in the general....polls prove otherwise. This is a massive scam being played on the GOP. Day one of the convention is to establish and create the rules for nomination. I can see the GOP adopting super-delegates and shutting Trump out.
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...^^^ glad someone else gets it.
I think your going to see some of the unions getting behind trump which one already has. As for 56-40 cruz that assumes cruz get the vote of every person that drops out and trump gets none which isn't happening
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...^^^ I don't think that's what Tote was referencing.
...but anyway, if the GOP candidates don't stop behaving like they did again last night, they will push more voters toward the Dems.
...Questioning and arguing about the size of trump's dick?...seriously?
...but anyway, if the GOP candidates don't stop behaving like they did again last night, they will push more voters toward the Dems.
...Questioning and arguing about the size of trump's dick?...seriously?
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The GOP debates really continue to be a horrible display. Just childish behavior filled with ridiculous insults and innuendo.
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...Mess, I seem to recall you and I discussing the possibility that by design, Trump was "planted" for the sole purpose of blowing up the GOP and thus handing the Presidency to Hillary.
...I swear, that's exactly what it looks like...it's really disgusting and embarrassing. Meanwhile, the Dems are sitting back and watching and laughing.
...Kasich is the only one who has taken the high road and has shown poise and class throughout this whole cluster fuck...and for that reason alone, if the election were held today he'd probably get my vote. ( I know, I know...just sayin')
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This was just ridiculous. I don't recall any other candidates EVER behaving like this. Its like watching children fighting in the playground.
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...fwiw, polls say Kasich has a better head to head lead over Hillary than either Rubio or Cruz or Trump.
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I don't know if he ever thought he would get this far. That said you're right. The Dems are laughing their asses off at this mess. Kasich has been a class act but that gets lost as he's mixed up in a complete clown show. I watch five minutes and have to turn it off. That's what this has all come to.
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Honestly tho' he gets little time, Kasich seems to be the only GOP candidate who is not posturing, or gloating, or playing games, IMO....
this field is worse than a high school student body election.....on both sides, not one ideal candidate IMO.
It's going to get uglier, especially when the GOP field is split,.... If Hillary gets the nod, I'm outta' here.....
Bienvenue à la maison du Québec...
this field is worse than a high school student body election.....on both sides, not one ideal candidate IMO.
It's going to get uglier, especially when the GOP field is split,.... If Hillary gets the nod, I'm outta' here.....
Bienvenue à la maison du Québec...
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Have to disagree. Rubio may have sunk to Trumps level, but Cruz didn't play schoolyard games. Kasich unwilling to confront Trump because he needs those voters in Ohio. Marco is trying to out trump Trump for FL.
Not worried about the Dems because once we have a nominee not named Trump, they handily crush Hillary. That is if she isn't already in an orange jumpsuit.
Not worried about the Dems because once we have a nominee not named Trump, they handily crush Hillary. That is if she isn't already in an orange jumpsuit.
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Little Marco is renting space in Donald's other head....classic Trumpian meltdown.
Pundit concensus today was that Cruz crushed the debate with Kasich a close second, his Rodney King statements Jeep hurting him more than his cranky old guy routine.
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I'd say Cruz's guy who stepped down/aside, due to informing Iowa voters Carson had quit, possibly resulting in swinging Ben's votes, Cruz's way....that I'd say is schoolyard; pedestrian. Not saying Cruz can't straighten out, yet he's a bit more conservative than I prefer. I've never ever been a moral majority believer, never will be, and to seek their backing is not my view or beliefs, other than that, continue forth......
just saying, Politics is down and dirty either way one hides it. Yet, The Don doesn't hide it well, and needs to learn a basic Debate etiquette 101....
Just say no to Pat Robertson types, and where the hell did Goldwater go.....?
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That must be Texas measurements your talking about, across the head from horn to horn....