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To think they were afraid of Trump running as an independent?
 
totus44 said:
To think they were afraid of Trump running as an independent?
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...^^^Tote, I'm not sure the GOP as we know it, can survive this...by 2020 we may see it morph into some sort of "hybrid", for lack of a better term...maybe something a little less rigidly conservative.

...I know there's still a few weeks before the election but with his refusal to toe the line and basically declaring war on the GOP, some of Trump's traditionally Republican states now turning against him and with so many swing states also favoring Hillary, the election could very well be a landslide.

...the GOP has no one to blame but themselves.
 
yankeesince59 said:
...lol...^^^ I saw what you did there.

...people can say what they want about Bill, but if you're the most powerful man in the world and you have to go to bed with Hillary every night and get the opportunity to get a BJ from a young intern in The Oval Office, you've just gotta do it.
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Wait? So then a billionaire reality tv show star can't grab muff? I'm confused. So it's not the act, it's the sophomoric bragging? Lol!
 

1h1 hour ago
Frank Luntz ‏@FrankLuntz
In the past 60 minutes, stories about 4 different women being groped by Donald Trump have been published. 27 days until Election Day…




 
totus44 said:
1h1 hour ago
Frank Luntz ‏@FrankLuntz
In the past 60 minutes, stories about 4 different women being groped by Donald Trump have been published. 27 days until Election Day…
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...don't you find it kinda odd that NONE of these women have said anything before now?...this seems a little too convenient for Clinton.
 
yankeesince59 said:
...Monica Lewinski was a more than willing participant.
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No such thing as willing partner in the workplace as per laws the lobs shoved down our throats. Bill had his share of assault victims too.

I'm sure trump had his Monica groupies too. But I get you point.
 
yankeesince59 said:
...don't you find it kinda odd that NONE of these women have said anything before now?...this seems a little too convenient for Clinton.
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It's way too obvious of a smear job and far too convenient to be believed. Also, these woman decided to come forward to the New York Times? Give me a break.
 
yankeesince59 said:
...lol...just saw the video...this guy is really on top of things, eh?


http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-tells-rally-crowd-to-vote-on-november-28-2016-10
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...^^^

I've thought from the beginning, this was all a charade, front, facade campaign, in which Trump wanted the notoriety amongst politics, as he lacked any experience. He was getting tired of being the butt of jokes at the POTUS Correspondence Dinners.

In other words, Donald did not want to be Prez from the start. Then things swung his way, or the far right went far left with him, enabling a candidate, rather the Manchurian Candidate of our time.


"Make no mistake. The American people are terrified. They know something's coming. They can feel it. And we can either shovel them the same old shit and call it sugar or we can arm them"


Or-

Bennet Marco; ***Raymond Shaw is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life. Dr. Yen Lo: His brain has not only been washed, as they say... It has been dry cleaned.

*** Donald Trump IS Raymond Shaw in this Manchurian Candidate story...!!! Insert DT in place of RS; & we have the perfect MC...mc? ironic.!
 
I happen to agree with that theory. I don't think Trump ever thought he would get this far.
 
yankeesince59 said:
...^^^Tote, I'm not sure the GOP as we know it, can survive this...by 2020 we may see it morph into some sort of "hybrid", for lack of a better term...maybe something a little less rigidly conservative.

...I know there's still a few weeks before the election but with his refusal to toe the line and basically declaring war on the GOP, some of Trump's traditionally Republican states now turning against him and with so many swing states also favoring Hillary, the election could very well be a landslide.

...the GOP has no one to blame but themselves.
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What will remain of the GOP will be the RINOs, or the old democrat party.

Conservatives, Libertarians, Tea Party caucuses are going to be a viable 3rd party. And I expect the social conservative agenda gets put in the closet until they can control courts to drive the issues to completion. To that end I see pot getting rolled back to alcohol status with cigarette stigma. 1st trimester abortion legal by chemical abortion only, but fetus will be declared human life on day 91. The fed gets audited. Balance budget amendment to the constitution. Fed govt gets massive downsizing and states rights get boost. 2A gets major protections. And govt gets out of social programs over a planned multi generational withdrawal.

Eventually the party of Lincoln goes the way of the Whig.
 
Messiah717 said:
I happen to agree with that theory. I don't think Trump ever thought he would get this far.
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me neither. Think he was totally caught off guard when things swung his way. He made enough noise to get much more air time, non of it political sense, rather insults. Yep, He was caught off guard, never expected the backing he got. Goes to show how many rager's there are in the Nation...

sad to see the GOP split, while the Dem's get away with unbelievable known treasonous, lies, deception, et al. I expected the Dem's to collapse under Hillary. There also, I got surprised by how many blindly follow sheep off the cliff, to their deaths they march, with no common sense real honest Leader or POTUS Candidates.

The illusion of free elections.

This Nation is in serious trouble.
 
totus44 said:

Eventually the party of Lincoln goes the way of the Whig.
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Does this mean everyone has to wear those freaking colonial court Wigs, as Whigs with Wigs, sounds like a new punk rock tune.
 
I think Trump from day one was building his brand, planning on losing so he could launch his own network.
 
Grand Old Party.........has been ripped from its history and roots by a group of people
using Trump as the Divider of American values. Remember the names of Bannon,
Priebus, Conway, Bossie, J Miller, Glassner, K McKay, Mashburn J Murphy, Cobb and Ayles.........
this group is bent on demoralizing Americans. They have taken the path to fear mongering.
And their presidential candidate will shout down all of us with his predatory bombastic
style..........it's the only way he knows how to ........act.
 
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totus44 said:
No such thing as willing partner in the workplace as per laws the lobs shoved down our throats. Bill had his share of assault victims too.

I'm sure trump had his Monica groupies too. But I get you point.
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1. That was about 20 years ago when things were not so defined as far as workplace behavior...and like it or not, we're talking about 2 consenting adults...Lewinski knew what she was doing, otherwise she would not have kept the blue dress without having it cleaned after giving Bill a BJ in "The Oral Office".
2. Bill Clinton is married to a female gargoyle, Trump is/was married to Playboy material...and though both of them may be guilty of adultery, at least Bill Clinton has a good reason for seeking sex elsewhere.
3. Bill Clinton was the most powerful man in the world at that time...Trump never will be.
4. Lewinski gave what was suppose to be a secret BJ to Bill, but instead decided to blab about it...she's a chicken-headed skank and in no way a victim.
 
Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump denied multiple women's claims that he sexually assaulted them as "totally and absolutely false."

"The claims are preposterous, ludicrous and defy truth, common sense and logic," Trump said at a campaign rally in Florida. "We already have substantial evidence to dispute these lies, and it will be made public in an appropriate way and at an appropriate time, very soon."


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...I wonder if that will be before or after he releases his tax records?...hmmm.
 
Just a little question. How's that deal Iran looking right about now? Decision time Obama. This clown's legacy is going to up in flames as he heads out the door.
 
...^^^and Hillary is nothing more than Obama 2.0.


...as far as the timing of these women coming forward after all this time, (and there will likely be even more) I doubt all of them are lying.




...not that it would ever happen but I'd like to see everyone involved take a polygraph test.

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I don't want to minimize the possibility of anyone being assaulted but at this point a beauty queen that he kissed on the cheek can pretty much claim Trump did something inappropriate. It's very hard if not downright impossible to disprove negatives such as these. I just think this all seems very scripted and these woman's claims are far too closely mirroring the bus comments. Like I said though if something did happen to these woman they certainly have the right to come forward and be heard. It's just very hard for me to take a claim from 35 years ago seriously. Once you cast doubt on one of the claims it's easier to cast doubt on the others. Who's looking for their 15 minutes? Who's looking to write a book? Who's looking for money? If it was so bad why wasn't it reported then?
 
This election is boiling down to Trump being so bad that people are going to be able to tolerate Hillary. Ignore the fact that she's absolute filth because Donald Trump cannot be President.
 
Messiah717 said:
This election is boiling down to Trump being so bad that people are going to be able to tolerate Hillary. Ignore the fact that she's absolute filth because Donald Trump cannot be President.
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...pretty sad, eh?
 
Messiah717 said:
I don't want to minimize the possibility of anyone being assaulted but at this point a beauty queen that he kissed on the cheek can pretty much claim Trump did something inappropriate. It's very hard if not downright impossible to disprove negatives such as these. I just think this all seems very scripted and these woman's claims are far too closely mirroring the bus comments. Like I said though if something did happen to these woman they certainly have the right to come forward and be heard. It's just very hard for me to take a claim from 35 years ago seriously. Once you cast doubt on one of the claims it's easier to cast doubt on the others. Who's looking for their 15 minutes? Who's looking to write a book? Who's looking for money? If it was so bad why wasn't it reported then?
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...well, if you think about it, when these encounters supposedly happened, these females were young nobodies while Trump was a "star"...and if any of them had spoken up at the time it would have essentially been their word against his. But after the release of the tape last week it gave their experiences some credibility after Trump shown a basis for a pattern of being a sleaze.

...not denying that this all seems "convenient" and "scripted" and that this has been fueled by Clinton but the fact remains that Trump has consistently shown very poor judgment and instability on virtually every topic and is both morally deficient and politically bankrupt.

...I seriously question his overall mental state and he's clearly unstable and blames everyone else for everything except himself...not a good formula for POTUS.
 
The Iran deal....within 2 weeks in office, the new embarrassment of a POTUS will have to deal with an un-agreed upon Iranian Continental ballistic missile launch, a pre-cursor to a Nuclear Platform and War Head; .... maybe a week or 2 prior or latter, first weeks in office will have to be feet 'running'.
 
Let me guess. The Govt. has allowed up to two dozen languages, in some states, for POTUS ballots; less my own language(s)....

In fact Big Govt has become so racially biased, I can NOT Vote, not since they quit counting legit smoke signals, for voting ballots....


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