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Saying he isn't getting impeached and removed from office isn't defending him.

As things currently stand, my rational analysis is what is aligned with reality.

It's got to be frustrating as hell to be 0 fer since Inauguration, lol! Why not wait until they que Sinatra to celebrate the win?
 
totus44 said:
Saying he isn't getting impeached and removed from office isn't defending him.

As things currently stand, my rational analysis is what is aligned with reality.

It's got to be frustrating as hell to be 0 fer since Inauguration, lol! Why not wait until they que Sinatra to celebrate the win?
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...oh please, you've been defending him ever since he won the election and then promptly flip flopped like Paul Ryan...at least I'm consistent.
 
^^^yup, saw that too...and though the numbers are shrinking, there are still people continue to support this total ass hat, though they can't really quantify the reason/s why.
 
yankeesince59 said:
^^^yup, saw that too...and though the numbers are shrinking, there are still people continue to support this total ass hat, though they can't really quantify the reason/s why.
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Because he isn't Hillary that's why. That is the only reason why. The swamp is bigger and thicker with him in office. Hey...he reopened coal mines..thats great...what was the reason why they closed...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/peabody-coal-bankruptcy_us_570eacb6e4b0ffa5937e0e7a
 
yankeesince59 said:
...oh please, you've been defending him ever since he won the election and then promptly flip flopped like Paul Ryan...at least I'm consistent.
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havent flipped or flopped. and equating raging hyper emotional and irrational behavior to consistency is fucking hilarious. i dont defend him, i criticize his detractors because they creating more sympathy for the POTUS. Where was all this outrage for the all the crap Obama did? Nowhere close to the level I see here everyday. Its hypocritical, its partisan and it has become an obsession.

dont really give a shit about a politicians style points, i care about the Constitution and the appropriate interpretation of it...not this living breathing document crap. I care about not inventing new rights (like healthcare), I care about keeping people out of America who dont desperately want to be Americans, and I care about have a military capable of kicking the rest of the planets asses if push comes to shove.

right now Trump is getting an A on judges. Hes saying the right things about the 2A, but congress needs to get something done there. Healthcare is a fucking mess, they should of followed Rand Pauls plan from the beginning. And Trump has budget proposals to start rebuilding navy, and modernizing the nuclear triad. but you go ahead and read all your liberal tabloids and feed the delusion....i'm staying consistent and noting policy accomplishments or failures. the rest is part of the sideshow and im not getting caught up in the reality series.
 
^^^that's BS and you know it, Tote...what "accomplishments" are you talking about...what has this POS actually "accomplished"?
...you're once again going off on another tangent ...and Obama is totally irrelevant, as is your never ending lame "liberal" reference crap...insistently citing Trump's shortcomings does not by default make me a Democrat...I'm far from liberal, but you already knew that, right?...this has to be one of your worst swing and misses ever. Just admit that "Comrade Comb-over" is an embarrassment to this country and his administration is a gross contradiction in terms.

...the things you say you support are on my list too...but Trump is not the avenue that will take us there.

...seriously, just answer a simple question; is Trump really the guy you feel who should be this country's compass?...again, a simple yes or no will suffice.

...and sorry, but whether or or not it is clear to you, I have in fact, been "consistent" from the beginning...if you can specifically illustrate otherwise, I'll listen.
 
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What's next?? I've been saying prior to the elections, I'd love to see his Tax Returns, to prove to the Am. People, He's made a living as a sucking leech off the Taxpayers trough. He's not a politician; incapable of learning on the fly; a dead horse candidate.

No reasons left to beat on Obuma, even Hillary, lest we beat on Billybob, even G.W. and his Daddy too. All are dead horses, of which little is left if any to kick on, that's not already been bludgeoned here in years prior....

but this OP is titled with Trump ie Trixon, at least Nixon was a master in foreign affairs, many would day. Trump's a master in b.s.; his 'art of the deal'....


IMO, He's hurt legit Conservatives more than he's done good. He's shaken up a party that needed some shake-ups, but upside down?? We'll see....
 
yankeesince59 said:
http://deadline.com/2017/06/jimmy-k...ell-senate-secret-plan-vote-video-1202118165/



http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/this-is-neither-repeal-nor-repair/article/2626882

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/editorials/la-ed-senate-healthcare-bill-20170623-story.html

https://news.google.com/news/section?cf=all&hl=en&pz=1&ned=us&q=Medicaid&topicsid=FRONTPAGE&ict=tnv8

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/22/us/politics/senate-health-care-bill.html
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^^^^ good reads, thanks 59.....

"Yes, there are two paths you can go by but in the long run,
There's still time to change the road you're on".

and- it's never to late to become a Yankee Fan or Fire Trashman, and it's never to late to depose or impeach the fraud/con, bad businessman, in office....(chuckling)...~!~
 
...^^^ Matts, I cannot believe the Republicans truly believe they are actually helping people by trying to pass this horrendous bill and that they truly see it as an improvement over the calamity known as Obama Care...it's like they are more concerned with spiting the Dems than passing beneficial legislation that actually helps.
...IMO, they were so embarrassed by failing the first time around even though they hold a majority, they became determined to get a health care bill passed of some kind just to save face. Trump promised to "replace and repeal" Obama Care, period...and this woefully misguided attempt doesn't even come close to doing that.

...the Republican party as we now know it is doomed because they can't even agree on the color of shit.



Edit; this breaks it down in simple terms; https://www.usnews.com/opinion/op-e...macare-repeal-bill-dooms-american-health-care
 
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Just waiting for Trump to tweet the Charley Sheen "winning meme", lol!
 
totus44 said:
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...tes-much-trump-s-travel-ban-will-hear-n776711

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...ill-hear-cases-on-president-trumps-travel-ban

https://www.google.de/amp/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN19H1OR

What is quite interesting, google "travel ban Supreme Court" and read all the current headlines. Great example of media bias and spin.
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...wait, media sources have agendas and are generally biased one way or another?...Oh, please say it ain't so !.........in other news, water is wet.

...how many times do we have to go through this same topic...you always play this "bias" card but you never actually dispute what is written, why is that?


...once and for all, do you or do you not believe that conservative news sources/outlets are also "biased"?...a simple or no will do. If the answer is no, you're delusional...if the answer is yes, it once again contradicts your point and makes your skewed media view both paranoid as well as hypocritical.
 
yankeesince59 said:
http://deadline.com/2017/06/jimmy-k...ell-senate-secret-plan-vote-video-1202118165/



http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/this-is-neither-repeal-nor-repair/article/2626882

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/editorials/la-ed-senate-healthcare-bill-20170623-story.html

https://news.google.com/news/section?cf=all&hl=en&pz=1&ned=us&q=Medicaid&topicsid=FRONTPAGE&ict=tnv8

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/22/us/politics/senate-health-care-bill.html
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^^^^ "neither repeal, nor replace", let alone a permanent fix for good.....I'm quickly losing my faith in any politicians ability to deliver or speak the truth, without special interests speaking for them....

Senate GOP leadership calls its proposal to overhaul Obamacare the “Better Care” act. But better care for whom?, let me guess Politicians only????
No, they'd never have this shit for insurance for themselves or family...!!!

This is what really pisses me off.
"large employer health plans would be less generous than they are now, pushing recipients into policies with higher deductibles and co-pays."

In years past; with BC-PPO; I had a zero deductible for Dr's visits, a 20$ co-pay; (non for hospitalization or surgeries), and with Obumacare my Deductibles ballooned to $7,800 for my self, another 7.8K for Kim, now wtf are we to expect????? Yeah, we all have 8 grand or more; laying around to hand to the Feds yearly. And they'd like to raise that amount? WTF?

 
yankeesince59 said:
...^^^ Matts, I cannot believe the Republicans truly believe they are actually helping people by trying to pass this horrendous bill and that they truly see it as an improvement over the calamity known as Obama Care...it's like they are more concerned with spiting the Dems than passing beneficial legislation that actually helps.
...IMO, they were so embarrassed by failing the first time around even though they hold a majority, they became determined to get a health care bill passed of some kind just to save face.
...the Republican party as we now know it is doomed because they can't even agree on the color of shit.



Edit; this breaks it down in simple terms; https://www.usnews.com/opinion/op-e...macare-repeal-bill-dooms-american-health-care
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^^^^^^^^^^
another typical wannabe republican potus, whose agenda is to preserve the rich and fk the poor....

"Third, the 10 essential benefits outlined in the Affordable Care Act are not guaranteed in the Senate bill. This means states and insurance carriers could exclude coverage of maternity care, mental health services or treatment for opioid addiction, among other things. The reason that these benefits were enshrined in Obamacare in the first place was to make sure that people didn't buy skimpy policies that did not provide them real coverage when they got sick. (I now envision a future where the insurance company value proposition is "crappy care at a convenient price.")
 
What I love hearing about this news organization is biased or fake news...why doesn't Trump/Republicans/Rich people...just simply start their own network and have shows with biased right sided stories? I am shocked Trump hasn't signed off on an executive order that allows him to use more than 140plus characters on twitter.
 
BigDaddyAl1973 said:
What I love hearing about this news organization is biased or fake news...why doesn't Trump/Republicans/Rich people...just simply start their own network and have shows with biased right sided stories? I am shocked Trump hasn't signed off on an executive order that allows him to use more than 140plus characters on twitter.
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that's cuz they'd rather buy a news org, then close it's doors, especially those who've been inflammed by certain news orgs, ie Thiel vs Gawker; or Adelson's buyout of the Las Vegas Review Journal. If you can't beat 'em, (but they could) then buy 'em out, or bankrupt 'em, and own the sounding board squawking, covering and exposing those in power; power to bankrupt the voice of reason.....
 
yankeesince59 said:
...wait, media sources have agendas and are generally biased one way or another?...Oh, please say it ain't so !.........in other news, water is wet.

...how many times do we have to go through this same topic...you always play this "bias" card but you never actually dispute what is written, why is that?


...once and for all, do you or do you not believe that conservative news sources/outlets are also "biased"?...a simple or no will do. If the answer is no, you're delusional...if the answer is yes, it once again contradicts your point and makes your skewed media view both paranoid as well as hypocritical.
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And you just lost CNN too....

More coming as Project Veritas caught CNN producers talking about pushing fake news for ratings and to fuel the Trump haters.

Come on my old friend, admit it....it's all bs ginned up by the libs.
 
yankeesince59 said:
...^^^wait, isn't U.S. News primarily a non-partisan part of the media ?

...this cannot be, because after all, only liberal sources have a less than favorable opinion of Trump, right? :biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh:
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Nope, try again. US News is left leaning in News, heavy left in editorial and opinion.

You are running out of fake news sources. lol!
 
totus44 said:
And you just lost CNN too....

More coming as Project Veritas caught CNN producers talking about pushing fake news for ratings and to fuel the Trump haters.

Come on my old friend, admit it....it's all bs ginned up by the libs.
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...lol...yeah, CNN is the only outlet that sees Trump for what he is...(rolls eyes)

...just can't help yourself, can you?...you're as paranoid about the media as your boy Comrade Combover...and somehow I just knew you'd tap dance around the question. I've asked you multiple times and you've dodged the question multiple times.

...not surprised, not surprised at all.
 
totus44 said:
Nope, try again. US News is left leaning in News, heavy left in editorial and opinion.

You are running out of fake news sources. lol!
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...yet another swing and miss...sorry pal, you're in quite a slump lately.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._News_&_World_Report

http://libguides.gatech.edu/news/periodicals



...but yeah according to you, only libs can't be trusted with guns and only lib news sources are guilty of inaccurate reporting of news....el oh fucking el :biglaugh:
 
yankeesince59 said:
...yet another swing and miss...sorry pal, you're in quite a slump lately.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._News_&_World_Report

http://libguides.gatech.edu/news/periodicals



...but yeah according to you, only libs can't be trusted with guns and only lib news sources are guilty of inaccurate reporting of news....el oh fucking el :biglaugh:
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^^^^** Like a M-1 Cannon Mortar direct bullseye hit; on a bullseye of a pistol target ....

clippped from libguides.gatech.edu:
Note: Everyone has conscious or unconscious biases. The best one can do is recognize one's bias and try to correct for it. Bias is also in the eye of the beholder: Comparing various lists of the partisanship of particular news sources, one sees that sources are considered to be biased to one point of view in one list, and to have another point of view on another list. Compare the lists below - notice, for example, that U.S. News and World Report is listed as non-partisan on one list, and moderately conservative on another.


 
:smiley-sun::devilwink::notworthy2::popcorn::popcorn:

Hey Tom, tho' it's been a bit over a month since you turned half a century, now ya' gotta' develop some old age naivete, just don't do like Rick and choose to wear Depends as his naivete......(he was just lazy and didn't want' to leave his PC)...
 
SHS, get's her closed mind shoved up her ass, and doesn't know how to respond....

geezus, where does Trixon get his cronies, left over Apprentice screen test rejects????

 
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