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Mattingly23NY said:
^^^^^

Spygate- :biglaugh::roflmao:


https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/06/trump-spygate-rooney-629550

Rep. Tom Rooney, a top Republican lawmaker on the House Intelligence Committee, is ripping President Donald Trump's unsupported claim that the FBI inserted a spy inside his campaign.

"What is the point of saying that there was a spy in the campaign when there was none?" Rooney said in an interview on Wednesday. "You know what I’m saying? It’s like, ‘Lets create this thing to tweet about knowing that it’s not true.’ … Maybe it’s just to create more chaos but it doesn’t really help the case."

Though Rooney isn't the first GOP lawmaker to question Trump's assertion, his comments were the most forceful repudiation to date from a Republican lawmaker. Rooney, a three-term Florida Republican who is retiring at the end of the year, was one of three GOP House members to lead the Intelligence Committee's year-long Russia probe after Chairman Devin Nunes stepped aside.

Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.), one of the other Russia probe leaders, was the first to undercut Trump's "spygate" claims, telling TV interviewers last week that far from inappropriately surveilling Trump, the FBI was responsibly pursuing leads about Russian attempts to infiltrate the campaign.

Gowdy was one of nine lawmakers briefed by the Justice Department and FBI last month on the use of an informant to glean information from Trump campaign associates believed to have suspect ties to Russia. His comments endorsing the FBI tactic stirred Trump allies, who panned Gowdy and said he was taking the word of a Justice Department....
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...sadly, it seems that the only GOP members who have have enough backbone to call out Trump for his BS are the ones who are leaving office anyway...the others are too chicken-shit to say what they really think of Trump and are putting their re-election concerns ahead of simply doing the right thing and doing what's collectively best for this country as a whole.
 
...in a few hours, the 2 most bombastic leaders in the world with the 2 worst hairdos in the world will meet in Singapore.

...can someone try to explain how any sort of denuclearization by N. Korea can be guaranteed or verified with any degree of certainty?
 
yankeesince59 said:
...in a few hours, the 2 most bombastic leaders in the world with the 2 worst hairdos in the world will meet in Singapore.

...can someone try to explain how any sort of denuclearization by N. Korea can be guaranteed or verified with any degree of certainty?
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I seriously doubt any legit verification will ever occur. NORK's will it turn this into an Easter Egg Hunt; hide & seek.

NORK's have never ever conformed to anyones concerns. Trump will demand, not a way to negotiate. DT's Art of the Deal is as phony as his wig. Bullying is a taboo method of tactless tactical diplomacy. The only method Trumpixon knows. Insult our true Allies & pander to Russia. Trumps had a man crush of Putin b4 t/elections.
The G7 a total embarrassment to the people of the United States. Hopefully Air Force One will not come back from Singapore...
 
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German Chancellor Angela Merkel told Trump it was unacceptable that after two generations of alliance where they had worked to integrate their economies, Trump would sandbag his G7 allies with steel and aluminum tariffs “without talking to anybody,” said one official.

Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe tackled Trump’s threatened tariffs against the auto industry, arguing Japanese cars are not a national security threat to the U.S.

Those frictions on trade continued into the Friday evening bilateral meeting between Trump and Trudeau, one that started off cordially.

Trudeau offered the U.S. president a small token of friendship, a framed photo of Trump’s grandfather’s hotel in Bennett, B.C., which Trump’s press secretary tweeted as a “great moment” between the two.
You gotta be kidding me, a picture...
 
^^^Matts, the only way we can be certain of denuclearization is for North and South to unite and become one again and as long as Kim is in power that's simply not going to happen.

...I see this whole thing as a political ploy to garner Trump some brownie points for the midterms and to draw attention away from Meuller's investigation and Trump's other faux pas.
 
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Speaking of pictures here's a viral pic worth a thousand words

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But the reality actually captured in this photo — the reality revealed by Trump’s conduct in Quebec and after — is that this whole narrative has proved to be nothing but a big lie. The photo is all gesture, with nothing at its core other than Trump’s petulant narcissism, destructiveness and increasing detachment from reality.

Trump’s posture throughout the Quebec debacle and after — his justification for threatening to upend the global trading order — was based on a series of Trumpian falsehoods and distortions. After leaving Quebec, Trump claimed the United States is the victim of high tariffs. But as the New York Times’s Ana Swanson details, the United States imposes its own tariffs, which are “slightly higher, on average, across all its imported products than Canada or Japan and exactly equivalent to the four European nations in the G-7.” Meanwhile, Glenn Kessler flagged two other lies Trump used to justify his handling of the G-7: the claim that the United States is getting badly ripped off by its payments to NATO, and the assertion that we’re running a big trade deficit with Canada.


This viral photo perfectly illustrates Trump’s biggest lie
https://www.washingtonpost.com/amph..._term=.0ee4525420ce&__twitter_impression=true
 
yankeesince59 said:
^^^Matts, the only way we can be certain of denuclearization is for North and South united and became one again and as long as Kim is in power that's simply not going to happen.

...I see this whole thing as a political ploy to garner Trump some brownie for the midterms and to draw attention away from Meuller's investigation and Trump's other faux pas.
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^^^^
I totally agree...

ntm- Tumpet continues to fulfill Putin's fantasies, ie. t/US at odds with our Allies, & discord over NATO...

His tariffs will hurt & hinder US workers & consumers. It's crazy, USA voters elected a failed businessman to run the finances of this country...

 
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Mattingly23NY said:
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I totally agree...

ntm- Tumpet continues to fulfil Putin's fantasies, ie. t/US at odds with our Allies, & discord over NATO...

His tariffs will hurt & hinder US workers & consumers. It's crazy, USA voters elected a failed businessman to run the finances of this country...

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...yeah, I've been reading about that...Trump falsely claims that we have a trade deficit with Canada when in reality we have a surplus.
 
Mattingly23NY said:
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I totally agree...

ntm- Tumpet continues to fulfill Putin's fantasies, ie. t/US at odds with our Allies, & discord over NATO...

His tariffs will hurt & hinder US workers & consumers. It's crazy, USA voters elected a failed businessman to run the finances of this country...
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Matts, considering there are only VERY loose details from Trump and Kim on their "meeting" it's pretty much a nothing burger...still trying to find out why the Trumptards are OK with Trump praising infamous unfriendlies like Kim and Putin while pissing off our allies ?
...also waiting for the "experts" to illustrate how any supposed denuclearization of N. Korea can be actually verified?...especially for a country and ruler who have a history of reneging on promises?

...the whole meeting between Kim and Trumps smells more like a propaganda/political horse and pony show by by 2 idiots try to hold onto their position of power.
 
Interesting. What specifically is fucked up in your opinion.

Are you viewing this from your perspective, or that of it's intended audience, a North Korean dictator that doesn't get out much?
 
totus44 said:
Interesting. What specifically is fucked up in your opinion.

Are you viewing this from your perspective, or that of it's intended audience, a North Korean dictator that doesn't get out much?
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.."intended audience"? ...are you serious?....how many different links would you like?

...did you even actually take the time to read it?...Are you viewing this from your perspective, or that of a Trumptard?
 
Im sure president twitter told kim a reliable person who would love to construct this grand plan on NK
 
yankeesince59 said:
...sadly, it seems that the only GOP members who have have enough backbone to call out Trump for his BS are the ones who are leaving office anyway...the others are too chicken-shit to say what they really think of Trump and are putting their re-election concerns ahead of simply doing the right thing and doing what's collectively best for this country as a whole.
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imo, both parties need a dire makeover, not the one Trumpet is giving the GOP; which is simply a facade, ie. a bad bad facelift...


yankeesince59 said:
Matts, considering there are only VERY loose details from Trump and Kim on their "meeting" it's pretty much a nothing burger...still trying to find out why the Trumptards are OK with Trump praising infamous unfriendlies like Kim and Putin while pissing off our allies ?
...also waiting for the "experts" to illustrate how any supposed denuclearization of N. Korea can be actually verified?...especially for a country and ruler who have a history of reneging on promises?
...the whole meeting between Kim and Trumps smells more like a propaganda/political horse and pony show by by 2 idiots try to hold onto their position of power.
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^^^^
this is another shit sandwich, lacking substance (meat) and legitimate disarmanent details, timetables, plans, specifics. With no real promise or treaty signed, other than "let's chip away at this", or - what fast food burger joint would you like in NORK.

T/Nork's have never lived up to one promise, not one since their inception. You know as well as I a paranoid communist nation will never give up 100% of it WMD. IF we're lucky, Now comes a game of cat and mouse, hide and seek, another Easter egg hunt; with NO details/timetable or legit substance, no treaty, no pact, no legitamcy.
We all hope for disarmament, but this looks like nothing more than a Photo Op. Trumpixon walked away with nothing more than fellating his own ego. In dire need of good press, but this imo is smoke and mirrors. Don't get me wrong, I'd love nothing more than total Disarmament.

Giving up War Games with S. Korea should of been done a long time ago. Why would any superpower play war games off the coasts, when the nation their intimidating is the most paranoid on earth. Such certainly never did anything other than stoke such parnoia...

Zero details, zero accomplishments, other than telling our Allies in G7 off in a Twitter Tirade.
FK our Allies, and pander to a Enemy of the State.
Stroke the ego of a true threat....wtf- so much for Trumps tough lil' rocket man stance. Trump hasn't really succeded if at all, with his art of the squeal, I mean deal...

Praising Pukin and Russia they belong in the G8, while other S. American Nations have a bigger economy than Russia; hell even Caly's economy is larger than Russia....
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just landed - a long trip, but everybody can now feel much safer than the day I took office. There is no longer a Nuclear Threat from North Korea. Meeting with Kim Jong Un was an interesting and very positive experience. North Korea has great potential for the future!</p>&mdash; Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="">June 13, 2018</a></blockquote>
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by the way...he mocked Obama for bowing to the Saudi king yet our commander in thief thought saluting enemy generals is the proper thing to do.
 
The propaganda memo is out......’ If you don’t back Trumpetman, you
will lose.’ And every damn spineless Republican is afraid, especially those
already in office. Imagine a Republican nominee claimed that she backs the
Trump Party 100%. The White House put out word if a Republican nominee
does not back the trumpetman, we will see that you will never get elected.
This comment says it all. This White House & nominees like this South Carolinian
female candidate are caught up in this maelstrom of appearances & perceptions. It’s
as if the people/voters are thrusted into this psychological bullying & seduction aimed
at candidates. Power is a phenomena that is not only sought by this autocratic president,
but by the trump voters who want that power. Dare someone poke this bear!
 
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^^^^^The moral fabric of this country is being torn to shreads by this president of America who demands
his way is the only way. The master of distraction and repetitive blabber.
Yes, we are in serious trouble.
 
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Another TrumpFk, who has no clue what the Constitution is for-
What happened to seperation of Church & State-
I have no problem with others religious beliefs, until it's forced upon us- or is the driving force or camoflauge assholes like Sessions hide behind when determining politically inflammatory decisions. 1 of many reasons for the 1st Amendment...



"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
 
^^^^^And then the mad man president cavorts on the White House lawn & tells us ‘another lie’ that Manafort
was his campaign manager for a very short time. Five months as head of your campaign is not 49 days!! Taking
children (approx 2,000) away from immigrant parents is a’Democratic initiative started under Obama’, he’s again
lying......under AG Sessions, this is a Trumpixon policy. His continuous balderdash is an actual mocking of
all citizens of America. He’s an evil person who is bullying everyone and he does not care who
he hurts. And he surrounds himself with enablers, most of whom do not know their jobs.
 
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