OT Trump Chooses His Golf Court For Next G7 Summit

[SlyPokerDog]

I always appreciate your takes.

#MeToo

 

[Chris Craig]

#MeToo

Your a victim of his takes?

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Oops, not Trump supports. Conservatives that aren't Trump supporters.

I haven't had coffee yet.

I shouldnt tell on myself, but I always pick up my dad and drive him to work (he’s legally Blind so he cant drive), I was so tired this morning (no Coffee yet), that in that mile it took to get to his house I got lost kind of, Im not sure what I was doing, I had this moment where I had this, “wait where am I? Where am I going??” Had to stop take a look around and go oh.... I wasnt that far off which is good but at work were in the middle of finally launching the beta for the product weve been working on and so me and the rest of our engineering team have been putting in crazy hours and a couple of us have kids too. Cant function without caffiene.

 

[riverman]

I hear you, just drinking my first cup.

I hate when people drink my first cup

 

[ABM]

We're trying, Jennifer

Not nearly hard enough, evidently.

 

[calvin natt]

Not nearly hard enough, evidently.

Yeah its almost like they cant keep up with the amount of impeachable offenses occurring on a DAILY basis, and are overwhelmed. It takes some time. Especially when its not a single event to start with. And its also difficult with massive amounts of obstruction of justice and an unwillingness for conservatives to be fair. But its happening (Romney), and impeachment or not, its a huge hit to his legitimacy for next election.

 

[ABM]

Yeah its almost like they cant keep up with the amount of impeachable offenses occurring on a DAILY basis, and are overwhelmed. It takes some time. Especially when its not a single event to start with. And its also difficult with massive amounts of obstruction of justice and an unwillingness for conservatives to be fair. But its happening (Romney), and impeachment or not, its a huge hit to his legitimacy for next election.

I'm hopeful that Kasich will step up to the plate. He's truly the guy I've wanted all along.

 

[calvin natt]

I'm hopeful that Kasich will step up to the plate. He's truly the guy I've wanted all along.

I would say he has 0% chance. He doesnt fit the mold anymore. There arent enough voters for someone like Kasich. Im not being sarcastic. He's not a tough guy, he's way too nice, Trump would constantly demean and insult him, and he couldn't win over Trumpets. There is no chance.

 

[ABM]

I would say he has 0% chance. He doesnt fit the mold anymore. There arent enough voters for someone like Kasich. Im not being sarcastic. He's not a tough guy, he's way too nice, Trump would constantly demean and insult him, and he couldn't win over Trumpets. There is no chance.

No, what I'm saying is if Trump were to get impeached.

 

[calvin natt]

No, what I'm saying is if Trump were to get impeached.

Impeached and removed? I dont see that happening.

 

[ABM]

Impeached and removed? I dont see that happening.

The whole playing field is tilting daily. If he keeps losing Republican support, it could eventually become anybody's ball game.

 

[MarAzul]

If it was a Democrat you would be all over it, saying how unconstitutional it was.

That is your game, not mine.

 

[andalusian]

Wait, I'm fairly conservative and I know that's super not popular here but I wouldn't consider myself a Trump supporter...

There is nothing wrong with being conservative and reasonable. There is no way to be a Trump supporter and be reasonable (imho). The two are not the same. In my opinion Trump decided to ruin the country from within - and with the support of some non reasonable Republicans (Moscow Mitch, for example) managed to ruin the GOP from within before taking on the bigger job.

 

[MarAzul]

Trumpets.

 

[MarAzul]

No, what I'm saying is if Trump were to get impeached.

Zero chance.

 

[MarAzul]

There is no way to be a Trump supporter and be reasonable (imho).

I see.

 

[Hoopguru]

There is nothing wrong with being conservative and reasonable. There is no way to be a Trump supporter and be reasonable (imho). The two are not the same. In my opinion Trump decided to ruin the country from within - and with the support of some non reasonable Republicans (Moscow Mitch, for example) managed to ruin the GOP from within before taking on the bigger job.

That's how I felt when considering to vote for Hillary over the Trump and Johnson. I voted Johnson. I believe those millions that voted for either Trump or Hillary were not reasonable. Both were slippery as ice on a lake.

 

[andalusian]

That's how I felt when considering to vote for Hillary over the Trump and Johnson. I voted Johnson. I believe those millions that voted for either Trump or Hillary were not reasonable. Both were slippery as ice on a lake.

Well, we will never know if your gut feeling about Hillary was right (I do not think it would have been anywhere as bad as what we unfortunately were proven about with Trump).

 

[MarAzul]

Well, we will never know if your gut feeling about Hillary was right

Well we do know she is capable of leaving guys in untenable situation where they have no chance to survive. She had definitely proven that capability.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Well we do know she is capable of leaving guys in untenable situation where they have no chance to survive. She had definitely proven that capability.

Yes and she's willing to testify about it for hours.

Unlike Trump and his clown car of idiots.

 

[MarAzul]

Yes and she's willing to testify about it for hours.

Unlike Trump and his clown car of idiots.

Great, tesify doesn't mean a damn thing. You don't do that shit.
Trump +1
Hillary -1

Simple as that!

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Well, we will never know if your gut feeling about Hillary was right (I do not think it would have been anywhere as bad as what we unfortunately were proven about with Trump).

I do, but honestly, I think it has little to do with Trump and Hillary. I think it's a byproduct of where our culture is currently at. I think what is absolutely fascinating when I listen to the "right" and the "left" (massive over-generalization here), talk is they both accuse each other of the same things. The other side is a bunch of Fascists, Hitler comes up frequently, they have spent decades attacking each other, undermining each other, stalling any real progress in the government, and fighting to keep either side from really getting anything done, to the point where there is literally a mentality that when many people see the letter in front of their name on TV they have already decided how they feel about what they're going to say. There's is, in my opinion, a "THEY ARE THE ENEMY" mentality that has grown feverishly the last 20 or so years, and what we got in 2016 was two sides who finally stopped playing charades and took off the masks and went completely on the offensive with each other. Had Hillary of been elected she would be attacked endlessly (even more than Obama), every move she did, everything she said scrutinized and I think she would've cracked as well even if she did not the temperament of our culture would not have normalized because to me she is not a uniting person. The real issue to me is we have to figure out as a country do we want to actually have peace within or not... There seems to be a lot of people ok with white domestic terrorism, racism, bigotry from all angles, hate for world-views we don't share. The two parties have too much to gain at this point monetarily and in keeping their own political power to really want us to all attempt to get along.

I realize this is all just my opinion and my bias' and it's definitely not articulate or does it apply all the time.

 

[Hoopguru]

I do, but honestly, I think it has little to do with Trump and Hillary. I think it's a byproduct of where our culture is currently at. I think what is absolutely fascinating when I listen to the "right" and the "left" (massive over-generalization here), talk is they both accuse each other of the same things. The other side is a bunch of Fascists, Hitler comes up frequently, they have spent decades attacking each other, undermining each other, stalling any real progress in the government, and fighting to keep either side from really getting anything done, to the point where there is literally a mentality that when many people see the letter in front of their name on TV they have already decided how they feel about what they're going to say. There's is, in my opinion, a "THEY ARE THE ENEMY" mentality that has grown feverishly the last 20 or so years, and what we got in 2016 was two sides who finally stopped playing charades and took off the masks and went completely on the offensive with each other. Had Hillary of been elected she would be attacked endlessly (even more than Obama), every move she did, everything she said scrutinized and I think she would've cracked as well even if she did not the temperament of our culture would not have normalized because to me she is not a uniting person. The real issue to me is we have to figure out as a country do we want to actually have peace within or not... There seems to be a lot of people ok with white domestic terrorism, racism, bigotry from all angles, hate for world-views we don't share. The two parties have too much to gain at this point monetarily and in keeping their own political power to really want us to all attempt to get along.

I realize this is all just my opinion and my bias' and it's definitely not articulate or does it apply all the time.

You are on point imo.
It just seems to me that if a third party were to RISE UP with a candidate that could offset some of the take no prisoners mentality from the right and left more people would eventually vote. But with the way the two parties are run, by money mostly and media buy, neither want to give equal time or opportunity its join them or nothing.
I keep hearing that well its going to come down to moderates and independents, well if that's the case, they should also be given a platform to campaign like both the dems & repubs are through their committees and media. If they would be included in their own debates with the same coverage it would make it more competitive ands competition always improves the ned product in most cases.

 

[Hoopguru]

If John Kaisch would have debated both Hillary and Trump in the general he could have very easily have won the presidency. Just my op.

 

[CupWizier]

Great, tesify doesn't mean a damn thing. You don't do that shit.
Trump +1
Hillary -1

Simple as that!

my, how you have forgotten about those 4 soldiers in Niger that were ambushed and killed under trumps watch.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

my, how you have forgotten about those 4 soldiers in Niger that were ambushed and killed under trumps watch.

Who do you think killed them?

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Regarding the concept of "emoluments"--my quick reading of the legal definition of emoluments indicates that it specifically relates to compensation directly due to duties of the office held. Like if a foreign government paid Trump to pardon someone. Has there actually been a court decision (I honestly have no idea) indicating that payments for legitimate private commerce qualifies as an emolument?

 

[CupWizier]

I do, but honestly, I think it has little to do with Trump and Hillary. I think it's a byproduct of where our culture is currently at. I think what is absolutely fascinating when I listen to the "right" and the "left" (massive over-generalization here), talk is they both accuse each other of the same things. The other side is a bunch of Fascists, Hitler comes up frequently, they have spent decades attacking each other, undermining each other, stalling any real progress in the government, and fighting to keep either side from really getting anything done, to the point where there is literally a mentality that when many people see the letter in front of their name on TV they have already decided how they feel about what they're going to say. There's is, in my opinion, a "THEY ARE THE ENEMY" mentality that has grown feverishly the last 20 or so years, and what we got in 2016 was two sides who finally stopped playing charades and took off the masks and went completely on the offensive with each other. Had Hillary of been elected she would be attacked endlessly (even more than Obama), every move she did, everything she said scrutinized and I think she would've cracked as well even if she did not the temperament of our culture would not have normalized because to me she is not a uniting person. The real issue to me is we have to figure out as a country do we want to actually have peace within or not... There seems to be a lot of people ok with white domestic terrorism, racism, bigotry from all angles, hate for world-views we don't share. The two parties have too much to gain at this point monetarily and in keeping their own political power to really want us to all attempt to get along.

I realize this is all just my opinion and my bias' and it's definitely not articulate or does it apply all the time.

One thing I will say in regards to your post is that it seems you take what supporters say and lump them into the candidates and their respective parties. I have friends who heavily lean right and some who heavily lean left but it doesn't effect my opinion of them or my political views as we all have opinions. I just lean as far away from trump as I can as his values are nowhere close to what I believe in. I have not heard any democratic candidate get down in the mud like trump does though on a daily basis with his rants of enemy of the people and so on. I don't listen to supporters, I listen to the candidates.

 

[CupWizier]

Regarding the concept of "emoluments"--my quick reading of the legal definition of emoluments indicates that it specifically relates to compensation directly due to duties of the office held. Like if a foreign government paid Trump to pardon someone. Has there actually been a court decision (I honestly have no idea) indicating that payments for legitimate private commerce qualifies as an emolument?

It has never gone to trial to be determined as no president has been so obvious about it as trump has been. Jimmy Carter sold his peanut farm when he became president and trump has continued to benefit at his business from being president. trump just continually lowers the bar of what is acceptable and it needs to stop.

 

[CupWizier]

That is your game, not mine.

oh my, how we forget your birther movement against Obama.