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DaLincolnJones said:
Lets take a look at what , according to the Dem Rep in Florida said.

She quoted President Trump as saying "He knew what he signed up for, but it hurts when it happens"

Fact: The guy signed up for a special mission. Fact: The guy was highly trained. Fact: Everyone that is sent to harms way, often do not come home.

Your allegation that President Trump "pattern shows lack of empathy for those who give their lives for our nation" has been proven untrue by his actions toward those in uniform.

You have never been in the military. You are not qualified to speak on my behalf or anyone currently inn uniform, on how it will effect there performance on future missions.

As far as McCain, I doubt that you will find support among many who have and still are in uniform.
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Wait, what?

I've been trying to ignore this story. I kept hearing on the news before I went to work that he said "he knew what he signed up for"

Never heard the "but it hurts when it happens"

I give up
 
Just a question, how is "I call the families, other presidents didn't" not politicizing the deaths of US soldiers?
 
bodyman5000 and 1 said:
Wait, what?

I've been trying to ignore this story. I kept hearing on the news before I went to work that he said "he knew what he signed up for"

Never heard the "but it hurts when it happens"

I give up
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Yeah..and there is more, but this is what the Dem Rep from Florida has been making such a big deal out of. So much easier to take part of a sentence out of context, and create a shit storm. Especially when you have a protagonist media willing to collude with a Dem to broadcast a false narrative.
 
DaLincolnJones said:
Yeah..and there is more, but this is what the Dem Rep from Florida has been making such a big deal out of. So much easier to take part of a sentence out of context, and create a shit storm. Especially when you have a protagonist media willing to collude with a Dem to broadcast a false narrative.
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They're just trying to get the 50 million retweets needed to start the impeachment and give people free chicken nuggets.
 
What a pathetic man.

And I pity you guys who feel the need to defend him or try and explain it away. He's a repulsive human being.

And you know it too.
 
DaLincolnJones said:
Lets take a look at what , according to the Dem Rep in Florida said.
She quoted President Trump as saying "He knew what he signed up for, but it hurts when it happens"
Fact: The guy signed up for a special mission. Fact: The guy was highly trained. Fact: Everyone that is sent to harms way, often do not come home.
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[being escorted out of the funeral] "What? What part of what I said was untrue? FACT: most people shit their pants when they die. FACT: maggots start to breed in your flesh 10-12 hours after you die. FACT: he probably was thinking about porn and not his wife on the day he died..."

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DaLincolnJones said:
Your allegation that President Trump "pattern shows lack of empathy for those who give their lives for our nation" has been proven untrue by his actions toward those in uniform.
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ORLY.
 
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Stevenson said:
What a pathetic man.

And I pity you guys who feel the need to defend him or try and explain it away. He's a repulsive human being.

And you know it too.
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I pity those that hate him completely yet are still hooked to Twitter as if it were a feeding tube.

All of you TDS sufferers might not be cured by putting down the phone and staying off the computer but you'd probably be happier.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
[being escorted out of the funeral] "What? What part of what I said was untrue? FACT: most people shit their pants when they die. FACT: maggots start to breed in your flesh 10-12 hours after you die. FACT: he probably was thinking about porn and not his wife on the day he died..."

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ORLY.
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Frankly, my conversation was not with you, that is something I usually avoid. I have no idea what you are referencing with this shit, oh, wait..its you.


Do me a favor, and put me on ignore. I find about 99% of what you post to be drivel.
 
DaLincolnJones said:
Frankly, my conversation was not with you, that is something I usually avoid. I have no idea what you are referencing with this shit, oh, wait..it you.
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I didn't understand wtf it meant either.

I'm rethinking my belief that he should quit reposting twitter shit and say something original.
 
BrianFromWA said:
The second died when social engineering overruled mission accomplishment
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And when exactly was that? When they allowed blacks? gays? women? Or are you meaning something else by social engineering?

Y'all don't need to be worried about what Hillary or Obama did around Benghazi, you need to be worried that people like me but younger are going to look at stuff like that and say "why TF would I sign up for something that gets crapped on by much of the media and liberal elite (I'm looking at John Kerry, not HCP),
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Yes, I'm sure the potential recruits of today are deeply concerned about what John Kerry might have said.

run by people who have not served and have no clue what the military is or does,
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But bone spurs!

and is used as a glorified and captive petri dish for every social engineering experiment coming down the pike. If we are not being allowed to fight the way we can and defeat Afghans and Somalis, why would I want to write a blank check to this country just to get clobbered by someone a bit more near-peer?"
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Since you made that choice, presumably you know the answer?

barfo
 
Having people pissed at you because you sent their kid/spouse to die is part of the job as president, as Bush or Obama would have told him if he'd been interested. He'd better get used to it, he hasn't seen anything on that front yet.

barfo
 
Stevenson said:
What a pathetic man.

And I pity you guys who feel the need to defend him or try and explain it away. He's a repulsive human being.

And you know it too.
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Quit drinking @Rastapopoulos' tweet-infused kool-aid. You're playing right into the hands of the professional outrage manufacturers. This is literally all these people do. They dig through transcripts and cherry-pick segments of sentences that could be contrived as inappropriate, then proceed to tweet the shit out of their invented bullshit. Then people like you come along and hit 'retweet'.
 
jonnyboy said:
Quit drinking @Rastapopoulos' tweet-infused kool-aid. You're playing right into the hands of the professional outrage manufacturers. This is literally all these people do. They dig through transcripts and cherry-pick segments of sentences that could be contrived as inappropriate, then proceed to tweet the shit out of their invented bullshit. Then people like you come along and hit 'retweet'.
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My wife told me Morgan Freeman died the other day. Just another Facebook hoax as usual. Dude has 9 lives. So does Bon Jovi
 
jonnyboy said:
Quit drinking @Rastapopoulos' tweet-infused kool-aid. You're playing right into the hands of the professional outrage manufacturers. This is literally all these people do. They dig through transcripts and cherry-pick segments of sentences that could be contrived as inappropriate, then proceed to tweet the shit out of their invented bullshit. Then people like you come along and hit 'retweet'.
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Sorta like the Russians did in the election, you mean?

barfo
 
barfo said:
And when exactly was that? When they allowed blacks? gays? women? Or are you meaning something else by social engineering?
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1) Openly gay without regard for sex, but gender.
2) Openly transgender without regard for
3) Training on things that are not "general military" requirements.

I'm all for anyone who can do the job doing the job. A woman makes it through Ranger school? Fantastic, good for her, I probably couldn't right now after 2 tours overseas. REducing requirements and standards to ensure a woman passes? Unsatisfactory social engineering bullshit (and since SECDEF has said so, I can say so. ;) )

Putting women onboard submarines is another example. I understand the logic behind "it just takes brains to be a nuclear engineer, doesn't matter if they have a Y chromosome or not". But the concept is flawed at the societal level. If it doesn't matter, why are there separate bathrooms for women and men? If it does matter, why are there no issues with gay personnel conducting their bathroom business with members of the gender they're sexually attracted to? If you're going to segregate, why is it that there is one bathroom for 150 men onboard the ship, but one for the 9 women? It's much easier for officers, who have tighter quarters and (presumably) more education and self-control and leadership, but there have still been problems with that as well, that I don't want to go into, but you can probably google. The British Navy just had to transfer crews off their nuclear ballistic subs b/c of a sex scandal with the CO, XO and other officers...which wouldn't be a scandal at any other job I've worked at.

This is literally the Fiscal Year 18 General Military Training list. I (and everyone in the Navy) must complete these or be separated from the Navy. Tell me which of these stop sailors from being killed when running into another ship:
(1) Sexual Assault Prevention and Response (SAPR) Awareness (F2F)*
(2) Equal Opportunity/Sexual Harassment/Grievance Procedures (F2F)
(3) Suicide Prevention (F2F)
(4) Antiterrorism Level 1 Awareness (F2F/computer-based)
Course number: CENSECFOR-AT-010-1.0
(5) Counterintelligence Awareness and Reporting (NCIS/computer-based)
Course number: DOD-CIAR-1.0
(6) Combating Trafficking in Persons (F2F/computer-based)
Course number: DOD-CTIP-2.0
(7) Cyber Awareness Challenge (computer-based only)
Course number: DOD-IAA-V14.0
(8) Operations Security (F2F/computer-based/mobile)
Course number: NIOC-USOPSEC-2.0
(9) DON Annual Privacy Training (F2F/computer-based/mobile)
Course number: DOD-PRIV-1.0
(10) Records Management (F2F/computer-based/mobile)
Course number: DOR-RM-010-1.2
Additionally, we completed Transgender Awareness Training earlier this year as a stand-down, do not conduct any operations until it's finished course. Which I actually learned a lot from and was glad for, but it has since probably been overcome by policy.

Tell me which of those are "warfighting" courses, which are "cover the military's ass" courses, and which are "touchy-feely" courses.

Yes, I'm sure the potential recruits of today are deeply concerned about what John Kerry might have said.
Barfo, do you know/understand/care how a huge number of today's military are a) deeply conservative, b) 2nd-or-more-generation military, and c) distrustful of those who are getting "entitlements" while their benefits are at risk of being cut. It's not just Kerry. Bring up Obama, Gore, Clinton and, better or worse, whether you understand it or not,
Trump, one of the least conservtive and (frankly) underqualified candidates ever to run on the R ticket, won 3-to-1 over Clinton.
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But bone spurs!
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Since you made that choice, presumably you know the answer?
barfo
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Nope. In before Obama/Hagel/Mabus, still (grace of God) standing after. I've already done the hardest things I'll ever do in the military, knock on wood. But asking 18y/o's to sign up for this? Already, only 17% or so of the military-age range qualify physically to even attempt to enlist (before academic testing, non-felonies, drug use, security clearances, etc). When the best and most fit of America decides they'd rather not (and the numbers are going down, even though the PResident wants much higher force levels), where does that leave the other 99.5% of society that is NOT serving in the military?
 
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jonnyboy said:
Quit drinking @Rastapopoulos' tweet-infused kool-aid. You're playing right into the hands of the professional outrage manufacturers. This is literally all these people do. They dig through transcripts and cherry-pick segments of sentences that could be contrived as inappropriate, then proceed to tweet the shit out of their invented bullshit. Then people like you come along and hit 'retweet'.
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Maybe Trump could just stop saying things that make him sound like prolapsed asshole? It shouldn't be that hard.
 
theprunetang said:
Maybe Trump could just stop saying things that make him sound like prolapsed asshole? It shouldn't be that hard.
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It would be nice of him. The mental health of millions of people would be better.

They could put down the phone and avoid things that make them lose their minds but that hasn't happened so far.
 
bodyman5000 and 1 said:
It would be nice of him. The mental health of millions of people would be better.

They could put down the phone and avoid things that make them lose their minds but that hasn't happened so far.
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It really is simple. Just act like a president.
 
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