Politics Trump claims previous presidents didn't call families of fallen soldiers

[bodyman5000 and 1]

I'm not really following along here but didn't he call her an empty barrel?
Never really heard that term before but it has to be racist.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Black person says something, white person says something.

Black person wrong, white person victim.

Proof black person isn't isn't wrong, white person still a victim.

Seems like we're seeing a pattern here.

 

[Sedatedfork]

Fake Navy Seal supports Trump. Seriously, why do people have to embellish their service record? As if serving, was not enough.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/20/business/media/navy-seal-fox-news.html

 

[barfo]

I'm not really following along here but didn't he call her an empty barrel?
Never really heard that term before but it has to be racist.

I don't think it's racist, and I don't think she should have claimed it was. I think there might be racism involved in the overall situation, but that term itself is not racist.

Although I suppose barrels are more likely to be black than white, that would be true of full barrels as well as empty.

barfo

 

[SlyPokerDog]

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

I don't think it's racist, and I don't think she should have claimed it was. I think there might be racism involved in the overall situation, but that term itself is not racist.

Although I suppose barrels are more likely to be black than white, that would be true of full barrels as well as empty.

barfo

She claimed it was? Really?

Maybe it means she smells of bourbon.

Funny I haven't more than a passing interest in this and guessed the race card was coming out.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nb...ed-racist-term-his-emotional-briefing-n812541

Sure enough. Haha

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

I feel like the South Park character that could tell ads from news. Which one was that, Jimmy?

 

[SlyPokerDog]

guessed the race card was coming out.

 

[barfo]

Hmm, Mille Bourne, if I remember the name correctly. [Edit: I didn't. Mille Bornes.] I remember playing that at a friends house, it must have been 1970 or 1971. I liked the game. Haven't seen it since.

barfo

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Fake Navy Seal supports Trump. Seriously, why do people have to embellish their service record? As if serving, was not enough.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/20/business/media/navy-seal-fox-news.html

 

[Rastapopoulos]

I don't think it's racist, and I don't think she should have claimed it was. I think there might be racism involved in the overall situation, but that term itself is not racist.

Although I suppose barrels are more likely to be black than white, that would be true of full barrels as well as empty.

barfo

Also note that Sarah Huckerbee Sanders thinks she gets to say "all hat no cattle" about a sitting congresswoman when her job is literally just to go out and tell lies for an asshole.

 

[Denny Crane]

Let's see... someone faked the videotape of a building dedication speech years ago in order to make Kelly look bad? Is that what you are going for?

barfo

You do not understand logic that isn't binary. Clearly.

How about he wasn't lying?

 

[Denny Crane]

http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/20/g...call-after-husband-was-killed-in-afghanistan/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...s-her-call-with-trump/?utm_term=.285822f44161

Gold star widow Natasha De Alencar released the audio of a phone conversation she had with President Donald Trump in April about the death of her husband who was killed in Afghanistan.

“I am so sorry to hear about the whole situation. What a horrible thing, except that he’s an unbelievable hero,” Trump told her in the call about her husband Army Staff Sgt. Mark R. De Alencar, which The Washington Post released.

“Thank you. I really, really appreciated it,” she said. “I really do, sir.

Trump also told the widow if she is ever in Washington D.C. that she is welcome in the Oval Office.

“If you’re around Washington, you come over and see me in the Oval Office,” he said. “You just come over and see me because you are just the kind of family … this is what we want.”

“Say hello to your children, and tell them your father he was a great hero that I respected,” Trump said. “Just tell them I said your father was a great hero.”

 

[barfo]

You do not understand logic that isn't binary. Clearly.

How about he wasn't lying?

Sure, that's one possibility that I mentioned. In which case either his memory is really bad, and/or he's a blithering idiot. Or someone faked that video.

barfo

 

[Denny Crane]

Sure, that's one possibility that I mentioned. In which case either his memory is really bad, or he's a blithering idiot. Or someone faked that video.

barfo

Either/or.

Binary logic.

FAIL.

 

[barfo]

Either/or.

Binary logic.

FAIL.

Wait, are you trying to say that he's lying AND his memory is really bad AND he's a blithering idiot? Ok...

barfo

 

[Denny Crane]

Wait, are you trying to say that he's lying AND his memory is really bad AND he's a blithering idiot? Ok...

barfo

He’s not lying and likely he’s not remembering any of it. I would assume he was briefed by someone who got it only slightly wrong.

But hey, the conspiracy angle is much easier to believe than the most obvious one.

He’s still the only adult in that room.

 

[barfo]

He’s not lying and likely he’s not remembering any of it. I would assume he was briefed by someone who got it only slightly wrong.

Oh, Denny. If he was briefed on it, and didn't remember it at all, why did he say "And she sat down, and we were stunned. Stunned that she had done it. Even for someone that is that empty a barrel, we were stunned."

So, he couldn't remember what he was stunned by? But he could remember being stunned? Or did someone brief him on how stunned he was also?

But hey, the conspiracy angle is much easier to believe than the most obvious one.

Which is what, exactly?

He’s still the only adult in that room.

Unfortunately, he turned in his adult card yesterday.

barfo

 

[Denny Crane]

And you expect to be taken seriously?

If he misspoke, it was minor. The woman deserved his ire and his press conference was spot on.

 

[barfo]

And you expect to be taken seriously?

Not by you.

If he misspoke, it was minor.

Horseshit. The videotape proves otherwise. You go on and argue with reality all you want, but unless the video was faked, he got it completely wrong, both facts and tone, start to finish.

The woman deserved his ire and his press conference was spot on.

Why did she deserve his ire, exactly? For telling the truth?

barfo

 

[Denny Crane]

Not by me.

Obama once said he visited all 57 states. Was the video faked? Was he lying?

Either / or. Your rules of logic. Pick your poison.

She deserved his ire for grandstanding and politicizing the death of a hero.

 

[barfo]

Not by me.

Obama once said he visited all 57 states. Was the video faked? Was he lying?

Shark jumped.

barfo

 

[Denny Crane]

Shark jumped.

barfo

There you go. A 3rd option.

Logic. Learn it.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Washington Post with the burn.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

John Kelly owes the congresswoman an apology

By Editorial Board October 20 at 6:44 PM

WHITE HOUSE Chief of Staff John F. Kelly owes Rep. Frederica S. Wilson (D-Fla.) an apology. That is the only conclusion that can be drawn after watching a video of the representative’s remarks at the dedication of an FBI building in Miramar, Fla., in 2015.

Mr. Kelly took to the lectern in the White House briefing room Thursday to defend President Trump’s handling of a condolence call to a widow of one of the soldiers killed in Niger and to attack Ms. Wilson as selfish and politically motivated for her criticism. To bolster that characterization, he offered up his remembrance of the dedication of the FBI building in memory of two FBI agents who had been killed in the line of duty. He claimed Ms. Wilson used the occasion to take unseemly credit for securing federal funding for the building. “We were stunned,” he said, “stunned that she had done it. Even for someone that is that empty a barrel, we were stunned.”

But, as a video by the Florida Sun Sentinel of Ms. Wilson’s remarks that day shows, Mr. Kelly got it all wrong. She did not say she got money for the building. She was generous and graceful in sharing credit for how legislation naming the building was fast-tracked. And she spent most of her nine-minute speech praising the FBI agents killed in a gunfight with drug dealers: “Today it is our patriotic duty to lift up Special Agent Benjamin Grogan and Special Agent Jerry Dove from the streets of South Florida and place their names and pictures high, where the world will know that we are proud of their sacrifice, sacrifice for our nation.”

It is unfortunate that the sacrifice of brave people such as these two agents or the four soldiers killed in Niger can get overwhelmed by the petty name-calling of politics. That is a point Mr. Kelly was trying to make Thursday, and that he undercut with his misrepresentation of Ms. Wilson. He needs to set the record straight.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...6288544af98_story.html?utm_term=.9292997bf76d

 

[jonnyboy]

http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/20/g...call-after-husband-was-killed-in-afghanistan/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...s-her-call-with-trump/?utm_term=.285822f44161

Gold star widow Natasha De Alencar released the audio of a phone conversation she had with President Donald Trump in April about the death of her husband who was killed in Afghanistan.

“I am so sorry to hear about the whole situation. What a horrible thing, except that he’s an unbelievable hero,” Trump told her in the call about her husband Army Staff Sgt. Mark R. De Alencar, which The Washington Post released.

“Thank you. I really, really appreciated it,” she said. “I really do, sir.

Trump also told the widow if she is ever in Washington D.C. that she is welcome in the Oval Office.

“If you’re around Washington, you come over and see me in the Oval Office,” he said. “You just come over and see me because you are just the kind of family … this is what we want.”

“Say hello to your children, and tell them your father he was a great hero that I respected,” Trump said. “Just tell them I said your father was a great hero.”

"What a horrible thing...this is what we want"
...Trump callously disrespects wife of fallen soldier.

I think I'm onto something here guys, but I can't find other people's tweets to accurately convey how I feel about it.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

http://ijr.com/the-response/2017/10...p-chief-staff-john-kelly-told-just-4-minutes/

 

[Rastapopoulos]

 

[crandc]

Absolutely, all the points made about just what the US was doing, and why these elite troops were clearly unprepared needs investigation. Not necessarily 60 hearings like BENGHAZI!!!!!!! but investigation.

Meanwhile, there are TWO things that are said to a person who has lost a spouse/parent/child.

We are very sorry for your loss, Mrs. Johnson (not "the wife").
Thank you for your family's service to our country.

Then SHUT THE FUCK UP.