Politics Trump Owns Stock in Company that produces Hydroxycloroquine (1 Viewer)

[lawai'a]

All hate and politics aside, if the letter is genuine then why look for technicalities? Reminds me of when buds of mine would get a speeding ticket and they would declare a bunch of technicalities on the tickey.
Geez....

perhaps because we seem to live in a time that the truth matters not and the administration has a track record of non factual/alternative truths, and that this could persuade some to believe they should follow the example of the most influential newsmaker of both broadcast and social media sources ?? data says he promotes a treatment that has not proven to be effective and carries significant risks.
edit i would like to note that after one of the said newsmakers press conferences touting another potential treatment, the director of the NIAID felt compelled to make the statement to please not drink bleach??

 

[julius]

All hate and politics aside, if the letter is genuine then why look for technicalities? Reminds me of when buds of mine would get a speeding ticket and they would declare a bunch of technicalities on the tickey.
Geez....

It's not checking for technicalities, it's checking for what was actually implied. So in this case, it's implied that he was prescribed something, yet the letter doesn't say that. Doctors cover their asses all the time. Saying that they discussed the the positives vs the negatives indicates they did just that. A doctor has to make sure what they're saying is exactly what they mean, otherwise they're culpable if the shit hits the fan.

It's like when the previous WHD said that Trump weighed 239 pounds, which there is no way on this or any other planet that shares our gravitational pull, that he only weighs 239 pounds. He's full of shit, and this is just another example of it.

 

[CupWizier]

Except it does, since the drug can only be prescribed by a physician. Now that the White House Physician would be the doctor prescribing the drug, and his public statement that “we concluded the potential benefit from treatment outweigh the risk.” It’s safe to say, he did prescribe the medicine to Trump.

mags

lol, and that would be so difficult for trump to get his doctor to do and it's rather obvious the doc would be fired if he refused. Go ask Michael Jackson how hard it is to get a doctor to prescribe dangerous mefications.

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[CupWizier]

It's not checking for technicalities, it's checking for what was actually implied. So in this case, it's implied that he was prescribed something, yet the letter doesn't say that. Doctors cover their asses all the time. Saying that they discussed the the positives vs the negatives indicates they did just that. A doctor has to make sure what they're saying is exactly what they mean, otherwise they're culpable if the shit hits the fan.

It's like when the previous WHD said that Trump weighed 239 pounds, which there is no way on this or any other planet that shares our gravitational pull, that he only weighs 239 pounds. He's full of shit, and this is just another example of it.

He also grew an inch about 2 years ago. It was a medical phenomenon to see a man in his 70's grow an inch that late in their life.

 

[yankeesince59]

I'd love to see a list of doctors who are currently prescribing HCQ to their patients in order to combat covid19.

 

[julius]

He also grew an inch about 2 years ago. It was a medical phenomenon to see a man in his 70's grow an inch that late in their life.

Yeah, weird, why would he have grown and inch and weight exactly 239 pounds....

 

[CupWizier]

Yeah, weird, why would he have grown and inch and weight exactly 239 pounds....

Only one logical explanation.

 

[Chris Craig]

Except it does, since the drug can only be prescribed by a physician. Now that the White House Physician would be the doctor prescribing the drug, and his public statement that “we concluded the potential benefit from treatment outweigh the risk.” It’s safe to say, he did prescribe the medicine to Trump.

mags

That would be like saying because the doctor used the word treatment, it implies Trump has Covid-19 and is being treated for it.

It is a carefully written drs note, and it never uses the word prescribed. It's lies. Another diversion from old bone spurs.

 

[julius]

That would be like saying because the doctor used the word treatment, it implies Trump has Covid-19 and is being treated for it.

It is a carefully written drs note, and it never uses the word prescribed. It's lies. Another diversion from old bone spurs.

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I get the feeling you're trying to imply that he (Trump) will purposely say things to get people to talk about that issue, ignoring the other things they should be talking about instead.

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[riverman]

When his malaria pills backfire, Trump will just say..." I meant I was taking the drug into consideration, not actually taking it"....something like that...we've seen the pattern in his press briefings

 

[Chris Craig]

I get the feeling you're trying to imply that he (Trump) will purposely say things to get people to talk about that issue, ignoring the other things they should be talking about instead.

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You inferred correctly

 

[Chris Craig]

If Trump is taking anything, I doubt it is really hydroxychloroquine. Probably plying him with a smartie or tic tac to placate him. Giving him his big boy medicine.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

China mocks Donald Trump as governing by 'witchcraft' after revelation he is taking hydroxychloroquine – as White House press secretary says he was just being 'transparent' and is forced to tell people NOT to take it without prescription

• China bashed Trump for touting 'witchcraft' to prevent and threat coronavirus
• Hu Xijin, editor-in-chief of China Communist Party's official publication who is close with the Party, made the allegations in a now-deleted tweet on Tuesday
• 'President Trump is leading the US's struggle against pandemic with witchcraft, and as a result, more than 90,000 people have died' Hu wrote
• Trump revealed Monday he's taken hydroxychloroquine for around two weeks
• White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany said Trump shared that health information to be 'transparent' with the American people
• Emphasized people should not take the drug unless they are give a prescription
• White House Doctor Sean Conley said he believes for Trump the gain from using hydroxychloroquine outweighed its risk – but did not say if he prescribed it
• Following the admission House Speaker Pelosi told CNN she would 'rather he not be taking something that has not been approved by the scientists'
• Pelosi pointed out Trump's weight and age - in what Twitter users saw as a dig
• Her warning came after Trump's 2019 physical revealed he had a BMI of of 30.4

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...aft-revelation-taking-hydroxychloroquine.html

 

[SlyPokerDog]

 

[barfo]

We moved the embassy to Jerusalem. Can we move the White House to China?

barfo

 

[Hoopguru]

perhaps because we seem to live in a time that the truth matters not and the administration has a track record of non factual/alternative truths, and that this could persuade some to believe they should follow the example of the most influential newsmaker of both broadcast and social media sources ?? data says he promotes a treatment that has not proven to be effective and carries significant risks.
edit i would like to note that after one of the said newsmakers press conferences touting another potential treatment, the director of the NIAID felt compelled to make the statement to please not drink bleach??

I understand what your saying, my comments had to do with a Letter from a doctor and really and how some were speculating on it, which is fine, i guess.
There are billions of doc patient relationships and docs are like mechanics, they are not infallible for sure. Ever watch the med commercials on TV they all cover their rear ends because like with any med there can be side effects. I really dont care what trump does with his doc and if people want to go on the black market and buy that stuff, there nuts, just like those who but all sorts of streets drugs.

 

[Hoopguru]

It's not checking for technicalities, it's checking for what was actually implied. So in this case, it's implied that he was prescribed something, yet the letter doesn't say that. Doctors cover their asses all the time. Saying that they discussed the the positives vs the negatives indicates they did just that. A doctor has to make sure what they're saying is exactly what they mean, otherwise they're culpable if the shit hits the fan.

It's like when the previous WHD said that Trump weighed 239 pounds, which there is no way on this or any other planet that shares our gravitational pull, that he only weighs 239 pounds. He's full of shit, and this is just another example of it.

Its a freaking letter/memo not a prescription. Geez

 

[Chris Craig]

I understand what your saying, my comments had to do with a Letter from a doctor and really and how some were speculating on it, which is fine, i guess.
There are billions of doc patient relationships and docs are like mechanics, they are not infallible for sure. Ever watch the med commercials on TV they all cover their rear ends because like with any med there can be side effects. I really dont care what trump does with his doc and if people want to go on the black market and buy that stuff, there nuts, just like those who but all sorts of streets drugs.

There is speculation because Trump is a renowned liar. His doctors have been renowned liars. I care because he is the president and he is hawking dangerous medications to Americans. It is not only irresponsible but down right reckless.

 

[wizenheimer]

Its a freaking letter/memo not a prescription. Geez

but how did we get here?

1) trump lies every day; he lies all the time
2) the white house knows trump lies all the time and he has no credibility
3) trump says he's been taking a drug that he's been pushing hard
4) the white house released a memo because trump lies all the time and they were trying to make his claim credible
5) the memo did not say trump was taking the drug, so then, see 1)

 

[Hoopguru]

There is speculation because Trump is a renowned liar. His doctors have been renowned liars. I care because he is the president and he is hawking dangerous medications to Americans. It is not only irresponsible but down right reckless.

CC, would you take the med without the advise of a doctor? Most wouldn't. My neighbor is a nurse on the front line IC unit, and she told me many were taking it on doctor orders, including her. If I disagreed with her, I would criticize her for it as its her own personal decision. Docs are prescribing that stuff because the medical field has used it, not because the idiot in the Whitehouse. You realize that there are idiot docs, and others in the med field. If truth be known docs are prescribing meds all the people don't need.

 

[Hoopguru]

but how did we get here?

1) trump lies every day; he lies all the time
2) the white house knows trump lies all the time and he has no credibility
3) trump says he's been taking a drug that he's been pushing hard
4) the white house released a memo because trump lies all the time and they were trying to make his claim credible
5) the memo did not say trump was taking the drug, so then, see 1)

ok, it was damage control!

 

[julius]

Its a freaking letter/memo not a prescription. Geez

Thanks for the tip Columbo. Thats kind of what we've all been saying.

 

[Minstrel]

The doctor's letter is specifically worded to make it sound like he prescribed it, so that Trump acolytes can claim he did, without actually saying he did so that he's at no risk about lying about having prescribed something.

When someone assiduously avoids saying the most direct thing (i.e. "I prescribed hydroxychloroquine for President Donald J. Trump"), there's a reason for that. Trump may or may not be taking the medication (I wouldn't put anything past him, either taking a risky medication or lying about taking it) but this letter is just a gimmick.

 

[julius]

The doctor's letter is specifically worded to make it sound like he prescribed it, so that Trump acolytes can claim he did, without actually saying he did so that he's at no risk about lying about having prescribed something.

When someone assiduously avoids saying the most direct thing (i.e. "I prescribed hydroxychloroquine for President Donald J. Trump"), there's a reason for that. Trump may or may not be taking the medication (I wouldn't put anything past him, either taking a risky medication or lying about taking it) but this letter is just a gimmick.

It's another case of TrumpCo trying to pull the wool over the eyes of people, not realizing it's pretty easy to spot when he lies. It's when his mouth is open and words are coming out.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

You know they're really giving Trump this.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

 

[Minstrel]

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Wow. This Obamagate goes deeper than I ever suspected.

 

[ehizzy3]

#presidentplump is trending on twitter

 

[magnifier661]

But there's nothing in that memo that said he prescribed it to him anywhere.
And you know that when he comes out in 2 weeks saying he was joking or not taking it or whatever other thing he thinks to say, you'd happily point to the letter and state the opposite of what you say now. Nowhere in what you highlighted does it say prescribed or is currently taking. It says they agreed the benefits outweigh the risks on the drug. It doesn't even say that risk/reward is in regards to Trump.

Why does he need to? He's his doctor and Trump has said it publicly that he's taking it.

I mean I get it. I see the new narrative of the leftwing media pushing he's lying about taking it. I'm sure everyone believes it. I choose not to believe the media.

 

[magnifier661]

Thanks captain obvious.

No one is denying that fact. What they're denying is whether or not he's actually taking it, and whether or not the doctor actually prescribed it. Most likely, he said it the way he did, and the doctor purposely didn't use the word prescription, because he actually didn't prescribe it. It's double talk at it's finest.

He's only fooling idiots.

Since you and others that believe the media narrative, I doubt it's obvious.