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DaLincolnJones said:
Well, Brother, there was a lot of that when this continent was was being inhabited by the English, Dutch and somewhat the Spanish. Religious persecution was a big deal. A lot of others came as indentured servants, prisoners and sailors press ganged into service.
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I was responding to el prez…"this is now that was then"post about flagging English illegal immigrants....he knows this
 
Lanny said:
It's not even Mexican. It's central American. And I'd say they're better than average 'cause they're fleeing violence, hence they tend to not be violent.

The very few that come from Mexico tend to also be above average since they want a better life. However, the influx from Mexico is about even to those that leave here to go back.

The rapists and bad ones? Just not there, no matter how much he fantasizes.

Are they all perfect? No group of people, not even those from Norway, are perfect.
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........ Now you done it.. Just had to bring Norway into it. Get ready for some fierce rebuttals. You have only yourself to blame for what is about to come.........
 
Lanny said:
“When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.”

Frankly, it makes me sick. How embarrassing.
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Technically, that's a Presidential candidate over 2 years ago.

Truthfully, everyone who isn't a moron knows he was speaking about illegal aliens specifically.

Factually, it's a generally true statement about illegal aliens.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
The Russians/Europeans/Asians who come here illegally have the means to do so. They aren't the poorest of the poor in their country. How would they get here? They aren't poor, uneducated people living in crime and huts. They have money and/or education.
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Most are sponsored by organized crime, some by governments as spies.

Like any other illegal aliens they provide no benefit to America and endanger our country.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
And Los Angeles is probably where most of these great migrants end up!

More of the US will start looking like LA if the current patterns of illegal immigration continue.
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LA had countless problems with some being even worse, long before immigrants showed up.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
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Who exactly want's open borders? If you say all Democrats then you couldn't be more wrong.

I suspect most Democrats want immigration laws that comport with our laws that dictate that we follow the treaties that we sign and that get endorsed by the Senate.
 
I love how many of you fall for trolls on this board....every single time.
 
Lanny said:
Who exactly want's open borders? If you say all Democrats then you couldn't be more wrong.

I suspect most Democrats want immigration laws that comport with our laws that dictate that we follow the treaties that we sign and that get endorsed by the Senate.
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https://www.investors.com/politics/.../illegal-immigration-democrats-open-borders/

https://www.nationalreview.com/.../family-separation-controversy-democrats-open-bo...

https://www.theguardian.com/.../democrats-immigration-policy-open-borders-dreamers

https://nypost.com/.../democrats-refuse-to-acknowledge-safe-borders-are-necessary/

https://www.sfchronicle.com/.../California-s-senators-want-de-facto-open-borders-130...

https://www.dailywire.com/.../abolish-ice-radical-democrats-prove-they-want-open-be...

What I find interesting is how many get caught up in the minutia. The difference between many and all is a dodge. Damn near every night there is an outcry over several hot button issues all pertaining the the subject. Be it ICE, children separated from supposed family, DACA, or those that actually believe that we should have zero borders.

This is the same trick fuck approach the fact checkers use to claim that Trump is false. While in is true that not every Dem wants open borders, I defy you to find a like number of Independents or Republicans that want to follow this failed approach.
 
DaLincolnJones said:
fact checkers use to claim that Trump is false.
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nobody needs fact checkers to know he's false...his own words are demonstrable to the fact...he said about 50 times that Waters is an extremely low IQ woman and stated he thinks her IQ is in the low 60s.....need a fact checker? He claims Don Lemon is the dumbest man on the news....need a fact checker? He claims Putin can be believed at his word above our nat'l security advisors....need a fact checker? it's a long fucking list. He claimed he didn't know about the Trump tower meeting with the Russians and just recently admitted he did....need a fact checker?
How folks get fooled by this blowhard is beyond understanding....baffles the mind.
 
DaLincolnJones said:
https://www.investors.com/politics/.../illegal-immigration-democrats-open-borders/

https://www.nationalreview.com/.../family-separation-controversy-democrats-open-bo...

https://www.theguardian.com/.../democrats-immigration-policy-open-borders-dreamers

https://nypost.com/.../democrats-refuse-to-acknowledge-safe-borders-are-necessary/

https://www.sfchronicle.com/.../California-s-senators-want-de-facto-open-borders-130...

https://www.dailywire.com/.../abolish-ice-radical-democrats-prove-they-want-open-be...

What I find interesting is how many get caught up in the minutia. The difference between many and all is a dodge. Damn near every night there is an outcry over several hot button issues all pertaining the the subject. Be it ICE, children separated from supposed family, DACA, or those that actually believe that we should have zero borders.

This is the same trick fuck approach the fact checkers use to claim that Trump is false. While in is true that not every Dem wants open borders, I defy you to find a like number of Independents or Republicans that want to follow this failed approach.
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One random google search deserves another;


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/27/us/politics/fast-check-donald-trump-democrats-open-borders.html

https://www.factcheck.org/2018/07/calls-to-abolish-ice-not-open-borders/

https://www.quora.com/Do-American-Democrats-want-open-borders

https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-...arguing-for-open-bordersbut-maybe-they-should

https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/01/opinions/abolish-ice-not-open-borders-obeidallah/index.html
 
Lanny said:
Who exactly want's open borders? If you say all Democrats then you couldn't be more wrong.

I suspect most Democrats want immigration laws that comport with our laws that dictate that we follow the treaties that we sign and that get endorsed by the Senate.
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Hogwash.

That’s exactly what Trump is doing, what Obama refused to do, what every Dem rep is decrying.

Enforcing our immigration laws to the letter.

Nothing more.
 
MARIS61 said:
Hogwash.

1. That’s exactly what Trump is doing, what Obama refused to do, what every Dem rep is decrying.

2. Enforcing our immigration laws to the letter.
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1. wrong

2. wrong again
 
riverman said:
nobody needs fact checkers to know he's false...his own words are demonstrable to the fact...he said about 50 times that Waters is an extremely low IQ woman and stated he thinks her IQ is in the low 60s.....need a fact checker? He claims Don Lemon is the dumbest man on the news....need a fact checker? He claims Putin can be believed at his word above our nat'l security advisors....need a fact checker? it's a long fucking list. He claimed he didn't know about the Trump tower meeting with the Russians and just recently admitted he did....need a fact checker?
How folks get fooled by this blowhard is beyond understanding....baffles the mind.
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Your post contains several falsehoods, as do most of your hysterical posts about our President.

Maybe you could benefit from some fact checking.
 
MARIS61 said:
Your post contains several falsehoods, as do most of your hysterical posts about our President.

Maybe you could benefit from some fact checking.
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..."several falsehoods"?...you post like Trump tweets...you both have a propensity to make claims that you either can't or won't back up.

...what falsehoods does his post contain?
 
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^^^I believe there are questions about how and how fast she became a citizen.
 
JFC stop cluttering up the OT sections with anti-Trump threads everyday. It’s bordering on obsessive and quite annoying. And by a trusted source, Joe Rogan, says he’s a real nice guy.
 
BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 said:
JFC stop cluttering up the OT sections with anti-Trump threads everyday. It’s bordering on obsessive and quite annoying. And by a trusted source, Joe Rogan, says he’s a real nice guy.
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You gotta be fucking kidding me with this bullshit....

Y'all made your swampy bed, so lie in it.

This forum was littered everyday with anti Obama threads and you didn't say shit about it then. You were quiet as a rat pissin on cotton. I'll bet dollars to doughnuts that you made a few of those threads.

Fuck Trump.

I hope the threads continue.
 
And the noose is tightening around your FAT HUTT'S....

Wait... Does he have a neck....?

His trachea! Yeah!

He just sold his own son down the river...
 
This country and especially DT are fucked up. Instead of a fence, the country could have established factories on the Mexican border and set them up as an economic zone. . The escaping Mex populations could work in those factories for the same wages and produce the same products as Chinese. Others, of course, distribute drugs and other nefarious trade but it is what it is. Poor and homeless Americans would finally have a hope, no matter how dismal it is. The almighty American trucking industry would immediately capitalize and spread their talons into the commerce that grows there.

Instead of alienating non Americans, Trump could have seen value and used them like he does to every class below millionaire status. Since Trump despises the China trade situation, he is going to fuck up our precious dollar stores and Walmart. I have more disgust for him and his short sighted plans than ever before. The self serving politicians in our Congress never saw value in cheap honest labor and never used common sense.
 
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