Politics Trump’s support for background check bill shows gun politics ‘shifting rapidly’

[SlyPokerDog]

No, they are not legal, as they are UnConstitutional.

See @Cippy91, here is a "real American" that believes illegals should be able to buy guns, violent felons should be able to buy guns, and children should be able to buy guns.

 

[MARIS61]

CNN reporting that David Hogg IS a student.

STOP THIS SHIT RIGHT NOW...

And if you're getting ANY "news" from The Gateway Pundit and using it here.

FUCK YOU.

#yesisaidit.

Certainly has a better factual credibility record than CNN.

 

[Cippy91]

See @Cippy91, here is a "real American" that believes illegals should be able to buy guns, violent felons should be able to buy guns, and children should be able to buy guns.

I have already said my stance on this. I don’t really believe in this old consistution nonsense. I don’t care if assault rifles are banned and I’m all for stricter background checks. I was just questioning peoples views on certain things because it seems people around here think you can just ban assault rifles and the issue is fixed. It’s way deeper than that. I don’t know what a real American even is anymore. America is and always will be a land of immigrants and a melting pot of people from around the world.

 

[MARIS61]

See @Cippy91, here is a "real American" that believes illegals should be able to buy guns, violent felons should be able to buy guns, and children should be able to buy guns.

Illegals don't exist when we enforce our border security. Enforcement = no illegals with guns

Violent felons can't buy guns in prison. Sentencing Enforcement = no violent felons with guns

I'm fine with kids buying guns, but my first gun, a .410, was a Christmas gift when I was 10.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Illegals don't exist when we enforce our border security. Enforcement = no illegals with guns

Violent felons can't buy guns in prison. Sentencing Enforcement = no violent felons with guns

An illegal can be someone overstaying their tourist visa.

How do you enforce no violent felons with guns if you don't do background checks?

 

[MarAzul]

See @Cippy91, children should be kept in fear of guns. That way, when they are men and woman, the won't wan't anything to do with them and
ignore that pesky Constitution.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I have already said my stance on this. I don’t really believe in this old consistution nonsense. I don’t care if assault rifles are banned and I’m all for stricter background checks. I was just questioning peoples views on certain things because it seems people around here think you can just ban assault rifles and the issue is fixed. It’s way deeper than that. I don’t know what a real American even is anymore. America is and always will be a land of immigrants and a melting pot of people from around the world.

I tagged you for this statement.

i guess you missed the point too sly. Who here isn't for stricter background checks? who has stated they aren't for that?

 

[Jade Falcon]

I'm sorry, this shit is really killing me. My son was in kindergarten when Newtown happened. There were 20 kids in his class. They were all 5 and 6 years old.... Same age as him... The parallels... It fucks me up every time I think about it...

Then muthafuckas wanna act like this is fake...

@Jade Falcon comes in here and pushes some narrative that he found in some trash bin and wants to believe that CNN is fake news...

THAT KID IS A VICTIM...
He's not perpetrating some lie...
People he knew were killed in front of him...

YOU stop perpetrating the lie! The fake news...

That shit ain't cool...

Oh calm your tits brother. All I said was that I found it strange that he's suddenly at the forefront of this debate. In fact, I specifically said that I'm not one to believe in conspiracies, and I don't believe there's one here. I just find it strange that he's suddenly everywhere at once.

 

[MARIS61]

Nobody here said sandy hook or this latest shooting was fake so settle down

It would be reassuring to skeptics if any physical evidence actually existed to prove they occurred.

You know, like with everything else that has ever actually taken place in the last 20 years.

Some people find that bewildering and far-fetched.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

It would be reassuring to skeptics if any physical evidence actually existed to prove they occurred.

You mean like dead kids?

 

[MARIS61]

An illegal can be someone overstaying their tourist visa.

How do you enforce no violent felons with guns if you don't do background checks?

Visa overstays are easily located and deported or imprisoned and later deported, when your government doesn't illegally shield them.

Violent felons are by definition in prison.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Visa overstays are easily located and deported or imprisoned and later deported, when your government doesn't illegally shield them.

Violent felons are by definition in prison.

No, violent felons are released from prison all the time.

Are you saying that once released from prison they should be able to buy guns?

 

[MARIS61]

You mean like dead kids?

Like extensive photographic and forensic evidence gathered in all crimes, certainly ones of this magnitude.

At Sandy Hook they actually erased the entire crime scene from existence, supposedly without even taking pictures before doing so.

Anyone with a brain has to find that odd.

 

[Cippy91]

It would be reassuring to skeptics if any physical evidence actually existed to prove they occurred.

You know, like with everything else that has ever actually taken place in the last 20 years.

Some people find that bewildering and far-fetched.

Here’s the thing. I don’t think anybody should believe what they hear on the news. I think every individual person should research what they hear to either make sure it’s true or find out the truth because let’s face it, cnn and Fox News shouldn’t be trusted news outlets. Even the New York Times has some questionable stuff from time to time. At one point I definitely believed in the sandy hook conspiracy. I watched videos, and I thought the parents acted weird. I thought Robert Parker after extremely weird or the fact cnn aired the special a few days later where the parents are talking about their just killed kids. The bus driver acted weird and couldn’t get his story straight. I think also it’s odd we have no footage of anything from cameras and now the whole school I believe is demolished. I know people like to dismiss sandy hook conspiracy theorists and call them disgusting for whatever reason. I don’t think you’re that. I get how you could think it. I don’t necessarily think it today but I get where you’re coming from.

People get extremely weird about conspiracy theories and yes, some are crazy but I think we can all agree in some theories such as jfk being assassinated, there is overwhelming amounts of evidence to that.

 

[Cippy91]

I tagged you for this statement.

What? Confused

 

[MARIS61]

No, violent felons are released from prison all the time.

Are you saying that once released from prison they should be able to buy guns?

Why not?

They've served their time as prescribed by law, supposedly.

If they are a known danger to society, there are laws to keep them imprisoned for the rest of their lives.

When liberal parole boards and judges deliberately free them early to create anarchy, that problem needs to be addressed by prosecuting those deep state individuals.

If they are not a danger to society it makes no sense to punish them for past mistakes they have paid for.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Like extensive photographic and forensic evidence gathered in all crimes, certainly ones of this magnitude.

At Sandy Hook they actually erased the entire crime scene from existence, supposedly without even taking pictures before doing so.

Anyone with a brain has to find that odd.

Why would tearing down the school be odd? What did you want them to do with it?

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Confused

We know.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Why not?

They've served their time as prescribed by law, supposedly.

If they are a known danger to society, there are laws to keep them imprisoned for the rest of their lives.

When liberal parole boards and judges deliberately free them early to create anarchy, that problem needs to be addressed by prosecuting those deep state individuals.

If they are not a danger to society it makes no sense to punish them for past mistakes they have paid for.

So much wrong in your post.

In Oregon we have mandatory minimum sentencing. If a felon does his time he is released, he doesn't see a parole board. We don't send people to prison to be rehabilitated, we sent them there as punishment.

 

[MARIS61]

Here’s the thing. I don’t think anybody should believe what they hear on the news. I think every individual person should research what they hear to either make sure it’s true or find out the truth because let’s face it, cnn and Fox News shouldn’t be trusted news outlets. Even the New York Times has some questionable stuff from time to time. At one point I definitely believed in the sandy hook conspiracy. I watched videos, and I thought the parents acted weird. I thought Robert Parker after extremely weird or the fact cnn aired the special a few days later where the parents are talking about their just killed kids. The bus driver acted weird and couldn’t get his story straight. I think also it’s odd we have no footage of anything from cameras and now the whole school I believe is demolished. I know people like to dismiss sandy hook conspiracy theorists and call them disgusting for whatever reason. I don’t think you’re that. I get how you could think it. I don’t necessarily think it today but I get where you’re coming from.

People get extremely weird about conspiracy theories and yes, some are crazy but I think we can all agree in some theories such as jfk being assassinated, there is overwhelming amounts of evidence to that.

There is, and ever since it happened the deep state has thrown a lot of conflicting theories out there to confuse everyone to the point nobody agrees who orchestrated it.

Here's a hint. Jackie Kennedy said LBJ did it. And she said it to his face.

So, our entire intelligence community was in on it either as participants or as accessories after the fact.

That means pretty much everyone running our government since then is working for the people who killed Kennedy.

Nearly 60 years later their house of cards is starting to tumble.

 

[MARIS61]

So much wrong in your post.

In Oregon we have mandatory minimum sentencing. If a felon does his time he is released, he doesn't see a parole board. We don't send people to prison to be rehabilitated, we sent them there as punishment.

We only have mandatory minimums for a select assortment of crimes, many of them not violent in nature.

Teenage lovers with a 4 year age difference, for instance, a mandatory 7 years in prison and required to register as a sexual predator for the oldest of the 2.

We have no mandatory maximums, so parole boards account for nearly all releases of violent felons in Oregon.

Murderers often are sentenced a year or 2, or time served with probation.

DUI murderers often escape prison altogether, drive and kill a second time.

Nobody receiving a sentence of 15 to life ever serves life, or even 15.

I have relatives in law enforcement, and earliest release possible is the standard for parole boards in Oregon, which results in making a mockery of our justice system and hampering it's effectiveness.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Murderers often are sentenced a year or 2, or time served with probation.

DUI murderers often escape prison altogether, drive and kill a second time.

Nobody receiving a sentence of 15 to life ever serves life, or even 15.

And yet you believe these people should be able to buy all the guns they want, lol.

 

[MARIS61]

Why would tearing down the school be odd? What did you want them to do with it?

Teach students.

There was nothing wrong with it, other than a broken window or 2.

Kind of what taxpayers were billed for.

 

[rasheedfan2005]

Doesn't exactly roll off the tongue.

It rolls off the other guys tongue...

 

[MARIS61]

And yet you believe these people should be able to buy all the guns they want, lol.

Our courts and parole boards deemed them to be safe for society.

If they are dangerous, your argument is with those who deliberately let them loose on society.

Our justice system works when not abused for political gain. Abusing it for political gain is a felony, so prosecute the offenders.

Nobody is above the law, and parole boards and judges can be arrested, prosecuted and convicted if they violate abuse of office laws.

Problem solved.

 

[dviss1]

Nobody here said sandy hook or this latest shooting was fake so settle down

So why the FUCK are you upset if I'm not talking to you? I can say whatever the fuck I want.

 

[barfo]

If he IS right, then it pretty much follows that people that disagree with him are either stupid or evil, maybe both, but certainly one.

Do you agree with Jade on every single topic, every opinion he has about anything, you agree with him 100%?

If not... are you stupid, or evil, or both? Or is he?

barfo

 

[dviss1]

Because you're wrong about our 1st Amendment Right can be regulated.

It can't, not without another Amendment.

As for the 2nd Amendment, it specifically states it can't be regulated (infringed). That is the entire point.

As for ALL the Amendments, they are pipe dreams without the 2nd in full force.

In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounde...d up and exterminated.
In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.

China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.

Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million educated people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

56 million defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control.

Can you slander someone without being sued?

Can you yell "fire" in s crowded theater if there is no fire?

Your speech is regulated.

 

[barfo]

People get extremely weird about conspiracy theories and yes, some are crazy but I think we can all agree in some theories such as jfk being assassinated, there is overwhelming amounts of evidence to that.

Yes, I agree that JFK was assassinated.

barfo

 

[dviss1]

How do you enforce no violent felons with guns if you don't do background checks?