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Denny Crane said:
Yeah, yeah.

:lol:

Obama didn't have much of a legacy, except for a mountain of debt.
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"Trump is unraveling Obama's legacy brick by brick! Oh, he's not? ...Wait, wait, don't go...uh, Obama DIDN'T EVEN HAVE A LEGACY LOL"

Haha indeed, old friend. Haha indeed.
 
Minstrel said:
"Trump is unraveling Obama's legacy brick by brick! Oh, he's not? ...Wait, wait, don't go...uh, Obama DIDN'T EVEN HAVE A LEGACY LOL"

Haha indeed, old friend. Haha indeed.
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The bulk of what Obama did accomplish was done by executive order or similar unilateral action (often unconstitutionally).

The bulk of Trump's accomplishments to date are undoing those executive orders (and things like the Paris Climate deal and soon the Iran debacle of a deal). And the massive number of regulations added by overzealous fools.

Some things can't be undone - like stealing the ownership of GM from its proper owners and giving it away to his constituency.
 
Denny Crane said:
The bulk of what Obama did accomplish was done by executive order or similar unilateral action (often unconstitutionally).
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Yeah, not actually true. As you'd know if you read the article I linked, rather than pivoting to your next Breitbart talking point.

The bulk of Trump's accomplishments to date are undoing those executive orders (and things like the Paris Climate deal and soon the Iran debacle of a deal).
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Removing the US from the Paris Climate Accord didn't actually do much, since A. the rest of the world didn't abandon the deal and B. many of the most populous states in the US chose to continue meeting the standards. Trump's move was just for signaling purposes to his base, not anything consequential. In addition, Obama's stimulus legislation kicked off a green energy infrastructure growth that is now as or more competitive than fossil fuels. Coal production continues to decline. Car companies continue to invest in electric cars. Trump can pretend he's holding back clean energy and progress in limiting emissions, but it's just (anti-)virtue signaling.

You should read the article--being part of Trump's base doesn't mean you have to be uninformed about these things.
 
Minstrel said:
Yeah, not actually true. As you'd know if you read the article I linked, rather than pivoting to your next Breitbart talking point.



Removing the US from the Paris Climate Accord didn't actually do much, since A. the rest of the world didn't abandon the deal and B. many of the most populous states in the US chose to continue meeting the standards. Trump's move was just for signaling purposes to his base, not anything consequential. In addition, Obama's stimulus legislation kicked off a green energy infrastructure growth that is now as or more competitive than fossil fuels. Coal production continues to decline. Car companies continue to invest in electric cars. Trump can pretend he's holding back clean energy and progress in limiting emissions, but it's just (anti-)virtue signaling.

You should read the article--being part of Trump's base doesn't mean you have to be uninformed about these things.
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I read the article.

My observations are objective, not biased by partisanship.

Tell me how inconsequential approving the XL Pipeline is?

The objective is obvious to those whose noses aren't brown from being so far up Obama's butt.
 
Denny Crane said:
My observations are objective
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Oh, I know. No one talks about being objective more than you.

"A pox on both their houses! Now, let me tell you why the liberals are the greatest evil on this Earth..."
 
Minstrel said:
Oh, I know. No one talks about being objective more than you.

"A pox on both their houses! Now, let me tell you why the liberals are the greatest evil on this Earth..."
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Did you see the one where Obama said "at least I'm president, Trump will never be" and dropped the mic?

:lol:
 
Denny Crane said:
Trump is commonsensically undoing, piece by piece, the main components of Obama’s legacy.

(who has the last laugh?)
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Denny Crane said:
He who laughs last, thinks slowest.
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So, Trump thinks slowest, according to you? In your desperate flailings to be clever, you embarrass yourself routinely. :)
 
Denny Crane said:
No, you think slowest.
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No, you said Trump has last laugh. Tough luck. Blew your own joke.

Don't worry, it wasn't a very good joke to start with.

(Please don't embarrass yourself further with your typically generic comebacks like, "No, YOU'RE the joke" or "The only joke here is Obama!" That would be so Denny.)
 
Minstrel said:
No, you said Trump has last laugh. Tough luck. Blew your own joke.

Don't worry, it wasn't a very good joke to start with.

(Please don't embarrass yourself further with your typically generic comebacks like, "No, YOU'RE the joke" or "The only joke here is Obama!" That would be so Denny.)
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I thought lefties were supposed to be good at humor. Your sense needs a LOT of work.

How's your 401K doing?

Tired of winning yet?
 
Stock market probably isn't a good thing to call 'scoreboard' on. It can turn on you in an instant.

barfo
 
Denny Crane said:
My observations are objective, not biased by partisanship.
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I see it as you're vehemently anti democrat....which is a bias and not objective at all....I admit I'm anti republican even though I'm not a democrat
 
riverman said:
I see it as you're vehemently anti democrat....which is a bias and not objective at all....I admit I'm anti republican even though I'm not a democrat
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That could be or it could be that someone who disagrees with the Democrats more has different priorities than you do.

I've read Denny post a million things he dislikes about Trump but around here he's a full blown Trumpette according to some.
 
bodyman5000 and 1 said:
That could be or it could be that someone who disagrees with the Democrats more has different priorities than you do.

I've read Denny post a million things he dislikes about Trump but around here he's a full blown Trumpette according to some.
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Trumps not a republican....he uses them to prop himself up....he was a democrat for a long time.
 
riverman said:
Trumps not a republican....he uses them to prop himself up....he was a democrat for a long time.
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I think, or hope you understand the point I was making.

Denny is for open borders, find me a Republican going back a million years that is.
 
bodyman5000 and 1 said:
I think, or hope you understand the point I was making.

Denny is for open borders, find me a Republican going back a million years that is.
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Denny is not a republican....as I said...he's an anti democrat...his opinion of Hillary is very close to my opinion of Trump....it's not ever going to be objective...that's what happens when a politician loses your trust
 
riverman said:
Denny is not a republican....as I said...he's an anti democrat...his opinion of Hillary is very close to my opinion of Trump....it's not ever going to be objective...that's what happens when a politician loses your trust
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At least you acknowledge that you can't be objective. That's good to admit.
 
riverman said:
I answered you....Trump isn't that guy as much as you'd want him to be..his own party doesn't like him much
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Trump isn't what I want him to be. 1994 Hillary is what I want as President. She was more Republican than any you listed.
 
riverman said:
I see it as you're vehemently anti democrat....which is a bias and not objective at all....I admit I'm anti republican even though I'm not a democrat
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I’m anti-statist.

Democrats are statist. It is what it is.

Republicans are statist in their own way. I just find them less about trying to run most thing in peoples’ lives.

I don’t like either, though.
 
bodyman5000 and 1 said:
I think, or hope you understand the point I was making.

Denny is for open borders, find me a Republican going back a million years that is.
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Pro choice, too.
Pro science.
Pro union (collective bargaining, but freedom of association).
Pro civil rights.
Pro gay rights/marriage/military service.
Pro trans.
Pro women.
For shrinking the military (Trump wants to grow it).
For non-intervention.

(All these things not republican agenda)
 
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