Politics Ukraine / Russia

Welcome to our community

Be a part of something great, join today!

Register Log in
I've been a little pessimistic lately. Germany, Austria, Hungary and Italy are not united with the rest of the West against russia. They are reluctant on sanctions, especially as far as cutting off energy imports, don't help militarily and some in those countries are foolishly advocating for Ukraine to give away territory to russia to achieve peace. It's sad to know they think that will bring peace. On the military front, of course Mariupol fell and we lost all those POW's. Now they are at the outskirts of Severodonetsk and it may fall also.
However all is not lost. It's an artillery war now and Ukraine has most of it's big howitzers (from USA and a couple other countries) in place, This is a war of attrition now and I just saw this chart today which seems to show Ukraine is winning that. This is compiled with numbers from Oryx, who are not affiliated with either country and post only kills they can truly verify. Here it is:
284553796_124593293576727_2001334333062122474_n.jpg

Also CNN and NYTimes are saying a decision has been made by USA to provide Multiple launch rocket systems and other long range missiles. Ukraine really wants these and they should really help.
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
I've been a little pessimistic lately. Germany, Austria, Hungary and Italy are not united with the rest of the West against russia. They are reluctant on sanctions, especially as far as cutting off energy imports, don't help militarily and some in those countries are foolishly advocating for Ukraine to give away territory to russia to achieve peace. It's sad to know they think that will bring peace. On the military front, of course Mariupol fell and we lost all those POW's. Now they are at the outskirts of Severodonetsk and it may fall also.
However all is not lost. It's an artillery war now and Ukraine has most of it's big howitzers (from USA and a couple other countries) in place, This is a war of attrition now and I just saw this chart today which seems to show Ukraine is winning that. This is compiled with numbers from Oryx, who are not affiliated with either country and post only kills they can truly verify. Here it is:
284553796_124593293576727_2001334333062122474_n.jpg

Also CNN and NYTimes are saying a decision has been made by USA to provide Multiple launch rocket systems and other long range missiles. Ukraine really wants these and they should really help.
Click to expand...
I haven’t been following as closely the past few weeks but it seems like Russia caught a second wind and is making some advancements.
 
ehizzy3 said:
I haven’t been following as closely the past few weeks but it seems like Russia caught a second wind and is making some advancements.
Click to expand...
They have. There is fighting in the streets of Severodonetsk right now, russians control 70% of the city at this point. Ukrainians may retreat across a river and try to find positions easier to defend. russia has focused the majority of their forces there, which leaves them weaker elsewhere, so Ukraine has counteroffensives going. outside Kharkiv in the north and Kherson in the south. (Severodonetsk is halfway between.) Ukrainian strategy is to wear the russians down, importing and bringing to the frontlines more and more heavy and more accurate NATO artillery. They of course have the greater willpower and motivation to win and I still think they will drive the russians out within 3-4 months.
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
Worst time of the war right now for the soldiers. Losing 50-100 every day with many, many more wounded. All so senseless. As Ukraine says: "If russia stops fighting, the war is over. If Ukraine stops, the true suffering only begins."
Click to expand...
Ukraine has been brutalized so badly by this....Putin is running out of conventional missiles and tanks, etc...so they're bringing out the expensive stuff now...I just hope they don't crack open the chemical weapons they used in Syria..if Russia keeps it up they won't win anything in the end..they'll have enemies on all their borders....now Denmark is joining the EU defense pact. This was a huge mistake by Russia and unfortunately he's making Ukraine suffer rather than admit defeat. Somebody should put him out of his misery now and negotiate a complete cease fire and Russia should be taken to the world court and forced to pay for the damage they've done to Ukraine...new hospitals, schools, steel mills, bridges, housing complexes....it'll take decades to repair the country now even if they stopped today. Start with Putin's estate...everything he owns and all his gold and treasures should be paid to rebuild the Ukraine..
 
Last edited:
Putin will not back down or admit defeat or fault. He will not give up Crimea or Eastern Territory.
Interesting read....

upload_2022-6-1_19-35-35.jpeg
upload_2022-6-1_19-35-35.pngThe Atlantic
The Potential of a 'Hot War' Between the U.S. and Russia
In March, Mr. Biden invoked God before insisting that Mr. Putin “cannot remain in power.” In April, Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin explained...
.
7 hours ago
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
Worst time of the war right now for the soldiers. Losing 50-100 every day with many, many more wounded. All so senseless. As Ukraine says: "If russia stops fighting, the war is over. If Ukraine stops, the true suffering only begins."
Click to expand...
This is the kind of fighting the Russians are best at.

My heart goes out to your countrymen and women.
 
Lanny said:
How about Freedom vs Enslavement?
Click to expand...

Freedom isn't allowing Wall street to take America into whatever war it wants America to join. That isn't even a democracy, as a majority of Americans don't want endless war.

America's very own banks fuel our wars. We keep feeding their obsessions for war profiteering, and we all lose. As this planet is a more dangerous place, because of them and their greed. As well as our own government... that does their bidding... for their profit.

Edit: America is at war with a big chuck of this planet. But most people don't see it because America uses sanctions as economic warfare. America literally kills more people on this planet every year than Putin has killed so far, in this war. I don't see anyone crying for these people, on any board that I go to.
 
Last edited:
Road Ratt said:
Freedom isn't allowing Wall street to take America into whatever war it wants America to join. That isn't even a democracy, as a majority of Americans don't want endless war.

America's very own banks fuel our wars. We keep feeding their obsessions for war profiteering, and we all lose. As this planet is a more dangerous place, because of them and their greed. As well as our own government... that does their bidding... for their profit.

Edit: America is at war with a big chuck of this planet. But most people don't see it because America uses sanctions as economic warfare. America literally kills more people on this planet every year than Putin has killed so far, in this war. I don't see anyone crying for these people, on any board that I go to.
Click to expand...
Is there anything you like about our Country or do you view it as your country?
 
Russia currently controls 1/5 of Ukraine territory according to Zelensky
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Users who are viewing this thread

Total: 1 (members: 0, guests: 1)
Back
Top