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Russians snitching on Russians who oppose the war;


Russians snitch on Russians who oppose war with Soviet-style denunciations

MOSCOW — Parishioners have denounced Russian priests who advocated peace instead of victory in the war on Ukraine. Teachers lost their jobs after children tattled that they opposed the war. Neighbors who bore some trivial grudge for years have snitched on longtime foes. Workers rat on one another to their bosses or directly to the police or the Federal Security Service.


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yankeesince59 said:
Russians snitching on Russians who oppose the war;


Russians snitch on Russians who oppose war with Soviet-style denunciations

MOSCOW — Parishioners have denounced Russian priests who advocated peace instead of victory in the war on Ukraine. Teachers lost their jobs after children tattled that they opposed the war. Neighbors who bore some trivial grudge for years have snitched on longtime foes. Workers rat on one another to their bosses or directly to the police or the Federal Security Service.


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Ha. I was just about to post same story from WAPO. It's terrible to live in such a fearful atmosphere. I told my FB friends in Crimea a long time ago: Don't "like" my posts, don't comment on them and don't share. I never message any of them even about personal or casual stuff. I'm afraid they might come under investigation because I am American and their intelligence service surely knows I run a pro-Ukrainian page on FB.
"Since the invasion began, at least 19,718 people have been arrested for their opposition to the war, according to legal rights group OVD-Info, with criminal cases launched against 584 people, and administrative cases mounted against 6,839. Many others faced intimidation or harassment from the authorities, lost jobs, or had relatives targeted."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/05/27/russia-denunciations-arrests-informants-war/
 
A Russian woman living in Auburn, Washington, trolled Ukrainian neighbors with pro Russia slogans painted on her wall. They were painted out, and her car also, in blue and yellow colors of Ukrainian flag. And air let out of the tires
 
yankeesince59 said:
Russians snitching on Russians who oppose the war;


Russians snitch on Russians who oppose war with Soviet-style denunciations

MOSCOW — Parishioners have denounced Russian priests who advocated peace instead of victory in the war on Ukraine. Teachers lost their jobs after children tattled that they opposed the war. Neighbors who bore some trivial grudge for years have snitched on longtime foes. Workers rat on one another to their bosses or directly to the police or the Federal Security Service.


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Damn, it's like living in Texas or Florida these days. Only sort of kidding.
 
The long awaited counter 0ffensive by Ukraine may have begun. They are reported to be making gains north and south of Bakhmut and further south in the Zaphorizia region, supposedly five points in all. russians report seeing Leopard tanks for the first time, which would indicate that those forces held in reserve for the attack are now at the front. It's possible that these are all feints and that there will be a massive rapid attack elsewhere (my speculation). Free russia forces are still operating in Belgorod province which is in russia just north of Kharkiv, They claim to have taken out some IFV's and tanks and russians confirmed one of their commanders has been killed.
 
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Presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy out forward his so called peace plan. Surrender 20% of Ukrainian territory to Russia and guarantee Ukraine can never join NATO.
 
Unbelievable terrorist attack by Putin and Russia

except it is believable that they would do some stupid and cruel shit like blowing up the dam. Which is why the world needed to step in and end this war before those dumbasses did this
 
Ukraine's counteroffensive struggling a little bit. Have made some small gains but taking losses. two of their new Leopard tanks and 10 Bradley fighting vehicles; they seem to have decided to attack with smaller groups on many fronts, not sure if that is how i would have done it, On the positive side, russians taking heavy losses, over 1000 soldiers yesterday compared to a recent daily average of about 600. The Ukrainian advances are drawing a lot of russian artillery fire which exposes their positions and russia has very high losses of artillery pieces and MLRS.
 
Ah, fallen to the second page.
As you probably know, Ukraine is now on the offensive, advancing slightly on several different fronts in the center and south of there. Although they have retaken a handful of settlements, they seem to still be several miles from the main russian defensive lines. They lost about 15 Bradley fighting vehicles and several of the best Leopard German tanks they had been given. Also lost three (of only six that they have) heavy mine clearing machines. Some mistakes were made and hopefully they have learned from them. Ukrainian spokesperson claims they are inflicting five times the losses on russia soldiers as what they are losing themselves. I hope that is close to accurate.
Here is a video of a russian guy surrendering to a drone. The landscape is stark and chilling and you can feel the terror of fleeing from a drone overhead. This guy was running a liquor store at home and was drafted with the promise he would never be in a combat zone.
https://www.wsj.com/video/series/on...0E6-48E5-BAC6-08A5C63D77E8?mod=article_inline
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
Ah, fallen to the second page.
As you probably know, Ukraine is now on the offensive, advancing slightly on several different fronts in the center and south of there. Although they have retaken a handful of settlements, they seem to still be several miles from the main russian defensive lines. They lost about 15 Bradley fighting vehicles and several of the best Leopard German tanks they had been given. Also lost three (of only six that they have) heavy mine clearing machines. Some mistakes were made and hopefully they have learned from them. Ukrainian spokesperson claims they are inflicting five times the losses on russia soldiers as what they are losing themselves. I hope that is close to accurate.
Here is a video of a russian guy surrendering to a drone. The landscape is stark and chilling and you can feel the terror of fleeing from a drone overhead. This guy was running a liquor store at home and was drafted with the promise he would never be in a combat zone.
https://www.wsj.com/video/series/on...0E6-48E5-BAC6-08A5C63D77E8?mod=article_inline
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You can see he is worried that he will be executed if he surrenders; this is what they are all told will happen. In a fuller account it's revealed that his two buddies, who are wounded. actually kill themselves, one with a grenade and one with his rifle. This guy decides he wants to live.
 
Biden and USA have done a hell of a lot for Ukraine's military (although of course the Baltic countries and Poland have done much more as a percent of their GDP). And if someone else had been elected president, it would surely have been a disaster for Ukraine.
But really, the piecemeal, one further step at a time of providing arms gave russia time to re-mobilize and set up strong defensive lines. Both russians and Ukrainians are dying needlessly because of this reluctance to give Ukraine the best weapons available. (not just USA, but even countries like Poland don't provide their best tanks). Also, even though the European parliament voted almost unanimously to provide Ukraine a certain and swift entry into NATO (after the war is over), Biden again is being very cautious and reluctant. He doesn't seem to realize, that in the real world, Ukraine is already the strongest member of NATO, they are the ones holding russia back from incursions into NATO countries.
Kurt Volker, U.S. Ambassador to NATO in 2008-2009 and former U.S. Special Representative for Ukraine Negotiations, says USA needs to give immediately fighter planes, long range rockets and more armored vehicles. Did you know that there are about 2000 Bradley fighting vehicles just sitting in storage? Why be so stingy with these?

https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-at...eive-atacms-f16-jets-a10-attack-aircraft.html
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
Ah, fallen to the second page.
As you probably know, Ukraine is now on the offensive, advancing slightly on several different fronts in the center and south of there. Although they have retaken a handful of settlements, they seem to still be several miles from the main russian defensive lines. They lost about 15 Bradley fighting vehicles and several of the best Leopard German tanks they had been given. Also lost three (of only six that they have) heavy mine clearing machines. Some mistakes were made and hopefully they have learned from them. Ukrainian spokesperson claims they are inflicting five times the losses on russia soldiers as what they are losing themselves. I hope that is close to accurate.
Here is a video of a russian guy surrendering to a drone. The landscape is stark and chilling and you can feel the terror of fleeing from a drone overhead. This guy was running a liquor store at home and was drafted with the promise he would never be in a combat zone.
https://www.wsj.com/video/series/on...0E6-48E5-BAC6-08A5C63D77E8?mod=article_inline
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Great video, and thanks for sharing.

That's one of the many differences between Zelensky & Putin & their forces...if the roles had been reversed and it had been a Ukrainian soldier vs a Russian drone, what do you think his chances of survival would have been?
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
Biden and USA have done a hell of a lot for Ukraine's military (although of course the Baltic countries and Poland have done much more as a percent of their GDP). And if someone else had been elected president, it would surely have been a disaster for Ukraine.
But really, the piecemeal, one further step at a time of providing arms gave russia time to re-mobilize and set up strong defensive lines. Both russians and Ukrainians are dying needlessly because of this reluctance to give Ukraine the best weapons available. (not just USA, but even countries like Poland don't provide their best tanks). Also, even though the European parliament voted almost unanimously to provide Ukraine a certain and swift entry into NATO (after the war is over), Biden again is being very cautious and reluctant. He doesn't seem to realize, that in the real world, Ukraine is already the strongest member of NATO, they are the ones holding russia back from incursions into NATO countries.
Kurt Volker, U.S. Ambassador to NATO in 2008-2009 and former U.S. Special Representative for Ukraine Negotiations, says USA needs to give immediately fighter planes, long range rockets and more armored vehicles. Did you know that there are about 2000 Bradley fighting vehicles just sitting in storage? Why be so stingy with these?

https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-at...eive-atacms-f16-jets-a10-attack-aircraft.html
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Biden seems to have, just yesterday, become more amenable to Ukraine joining NATO after the war, saying they can skip the "map".
 
Indications lately that this will be a long and difficult offensive by Ukraine:
1. Their defense minister warns: "Expectations for blitzkrieg progress are based on Ukraine’s successful operations to liberate Kharkiv and Kherson oblasts, but the weather, terrain, and conditions are totally different now"
2. A report by The London-based Royal United Services Institute reminds that Ukraine faces a very formidable foe that has over the course of the war refined the use of tanks, artillery and electronic warfare to make them all more effective. Their air defense is more effective now: "Alongside the successful interception of most high-speed anti-radiation missiles (HARMs) fired by Ukrainian aircraft, the Russian air defense network now intercepts a significant number of GMLRS munitions. "
3, Reports that russia has launched their own offensive in the north, west of Kremmina, and made some advances.
 
Listening to Prigozhin makes me more optimistic than listening to Ukrainian reports;
 
Should Ukraine make a big push right now whilst the Russian forces are destabilised?
 
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