Update: Collins trade could be finalized this weekend

[GMJ]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Jason Collins could be on his way to Memphis for 6-foot-10 forward Stromile Swift, league sources said. They were working it out yesterday and something could be finalized either today or some time over the weekend.

Swift, who the Nets pursued in the past, is averaging 6.8 points, 3.7 rebounds and 1.0 block in 35 games this season for the Grizzlies.</div>

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Ladies and Gentlemen...things are looking up

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>This move, when it gets done, is expected to be the first of several the Nets will make as they try and reshape the franchise.</div>

Take that as you will

 

[Major Juggs]

Wow, this deal goes down, I'm really gonna miss him. And I'm not kidding.
Jason's always been a professional.

 

[GMJ]

I know what you mean; let me update my list:
RIP Kenyon Martin
RIP Jason Collins
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<div align='left'>Another trade casulty; ye who whoever wears the Nets red,white, and blue.
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[#1_Josh_Boone_Fan]

I dont want to sound selfish here, but does this mean JB days are done in NJ?

 

[soul driver]

why would this mean jb's days are done? swift would be a bench warmer most likely.

as much as I'm not crazy for Collins, it will in fact be kinda sad to see him go. not for his playing abilities, but because he was a funny guy, and one of our last pieces remaining from the finals years. if kidd goes, then RJ will be the sole survivor from those years.

 

[#1_Josh_Boone_Fan]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (soul driver @ Feb 1 2008, 06:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>why would this mean jb's days are done? swift would be a bench warmer most likely.

as much as I'm not crazy for Collins, it will in fact be kinda sad to see him go. not for his playing abilities, but because he was a funny guy, and one of our last pieces remaining from the finals years. if kidd goes, then RJ will be the sole survivor from those years.</div>


I just worry with all of this change that is going to happen, that JB'S days may be done, i dont think that is the case, but i am always thinking and worring about it.

 

[soul driver]

jb has been a light for us in these dark times, he's been the only net to be playing consistant. he's fine. he's part of our future I believe.

 

[#1_Josh_Boone_Fan]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (soul driver @ Feb 1 2008, 07:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>jb has been a light for us in these dark times, he's been the only net to be playing consistant. he's fine. he's part of our future I believe.</div>


I hope so.

 

[ToddMacCulloch11]

I'd be super pumped about this trade if I was making it in NBA Live.

 

[Deeznets]

If we trade Collins there is nothing that can happen for the rest of the season to upset me.

I love the approach Thorn is taking. Clean house!!!! The only one I would keep is RJ, but if we have to ship him too I'll do it. Its time for us to rebuild from scratch.

 

[#1_Josh_Boone_Fan]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Deeznets @ Feb 1 2008, 07:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If we trade Collins there is nothing that can happen for the rest of the season to upset me.

I love the approach Thorn is taking. Clean house!!!! The only one I would keep is RJ, but if we have to ship him too I'll do it. Its time for us to rebuild from scratch.</div>


So the only player you say you keep is RJ?

 

[Real]

Josh Boone is definetly going nowhere...*





(unless he's part of a bigger trade later on..)

 

[soul driver]

players who most likely won't be trades this year:
Sean, boone, krsitic (simply because he has no value at the moment) , ..... ?

that may be it in all honesty. it's kinda exciting and scary at the same time. but really, at this point josh and sean are my favorite two nets, so that's cool with me

 

[Real]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (soul driver @ Feb 1 2008, 08:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>players who most likely won't be trades this year:
Sean, boone, krsitic (simply because he has no value at the moment) , ..... ?

that may be it in all honesty. it's kinda exciting and scary at the same time. but really, at this point josh and sean are my favorite two nets, so that's cool with me

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I don't think anyone is untouchable for the right price.

 

[TheKidHypno]

why would boones days be done hes the only one consistantly giving effort, cant remember anyone else ive seen dive for loose balls other than him

 

[ly_yng]

So, Swift is making 5,800,000 on a one-year deal that expires this year.

Collins is making 6,100,000 on a two-year deal that doesn't expire until after next year.

Translation: if Memphis is making this deal, either their GM is smoking crack (possible) or there is a consensus that Collins is a better player than Stromile Swift.

I love this deal. Go Kiki Go! More expiring contracts! More!

EDIT: So, apparently, this post is 100% wrong, cause Stro has a player option for like 6+ million next year. Blah. I'm suddenly much less enamored with the deal.

 

[Petey]

SWIFT & SWAT will make an awesome front court duo!

Boone to 12th man!

j/k

-Petey

 

[unstop]

Trading for Swift and having him be the first big guy off the bench makes sense for a team that wants to run. WE want to run, and now we'll have a fairly athletic guy who is actually capable of running/finishing coming off the bench. Not to mention, someone to catch lobs/finish in the halfcourt. All things our current (and past) bench bigs haven't been able to do since... uhh... A-Train I guess.

Of course, we are supposed to be trading Kidd, which makes all of the above a complete waste. Anyone with half a brain has been saying for years that Jason Kidd just needs to be surrounded with athletes, preferably ones that play defense (in Swift's case, he blocks shot... good enough). But now, a few years too late, to finally try and put those players around him during the same week we are supposed to be trading the guy... it makes little sense.

Unless of course we don't actually plan on trading the guy.

 

[ghoti]

Trade's a wash.

Changing things up isn't a bad idea, though.

 

[soul driver]

a ploy to start getting players that Kidd might want to play like, thus changing his mind? nahh

 

[Jizzy]

thank god

 

[ghoti]

It will probably be easier to trade Swift's expiring contract next season than Collins'.

Kiki is getting to work.

 

[Jizzy]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Feb 1 2008, 09:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It will probably be easier to trade Swift's expiring contract next season than Collins'.

Kiki is getting to work.</div>
this is def. the doing of kiki. thorn sux

 

[Universe]

I thought Swift had a player option and it's almost the same as Collins contract?

I wasn't actually minding Collins on the bench. He didn't cause any trouble and he was helping with Boone and Williams while Swift is pretty much a waived player because his team doesn't want him around the youth.

Awesome?

 

[Dumpy]

collins never asked to be the starting PF. In an era when players whine and complain about their roles and touches, insist on contribuitng to personnel decisions, and--yes--even demand to be traded, it is unfair to hate on him.

 

[Jizzy]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Feb 1 2008, 10:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>collins never asked to be the starting PF. In an era when players whine and complain about their roles and touches, insist on contribuitng to personnel decisions, and--yes--even demand to be traded, it is unfair to hate on him.</div>

he was a good citizen but he was horrible, the fact that we had to play him just shows how bad we were. he will get no time in memphis

 

[ghoti]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Universe @ Feb 1 2008, 10:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I thought Swift had a player option and it's almost the same as Collins contract?

I wasn't actually minding Collins on the bench. He didn't cause any trouble and he was helping with Boone and Williams while Swift is pretty much a waived player because his team doesn't want him around the youth.

Awesome?</div>

I agree, but read my post above about the relative ease of trading their expiring contracts.

Swift will produce more on the court. If he gets time, he can be a decent trade chip.

Swift's worst case scenario is that he's simply an expiring deal - which makes him equal to Collins anyway.

 

[cpawfan]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Feb 1 2008, 10:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Universe @ Feb 1 2008, 10:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I thought Swift had a player option and it's almost the same as Collins contract?

I wasn't actually minding Collins on the bench. He didn't cause any trouble and he was helping with Boone and Williams while Swift is pretty much a waived player because his team doesn't want him around the youth.

Awesome?</div>

I agree, but read my post above about the relative ease of trading their expiring contracts.

Swift will produce more on the court. If he gets time, he can be a decent trade chip.

Swift's worst case scenario is that he's simply an expiring deal - which makes him equal to Collins anyway.
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No, Stro's worst case scenario is that he has to be sent home and told to stay away from the team. I'd rather have McInnis around the young guys than Stro.

 

[ghoti]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Feb 1 2008, 10:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Feb 1 2008, 10:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Universe @ Feb 1 2008, 10:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I thought Swift had a player option and it's almost the same as Collins contract?

I wasn't actually minding Collins on the bench. He didn't cause any trouble and he was helping with Boone and Williams while Swift is pretty much a waived player because his team doesn't want him around the youth.

Awesome?</div>

I agree, but read my post above about the relative ease of trading their expiring contracts.

Swift will produce more on the court. If he gets time, he can be a decent trade chip.

Swift's worst case scenario is that he's simply an expiring deal - which makes him equal to Collins anyway.
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No, Stro's worst case scenario is that he has to be sent home and told to stay away from the team. I'd rather have McInnis around the young guys than Stro.
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It's still equal same in terms of trade value.

It might even be preferred. An inactive Swift might be easier to buy out by his new team, where Collins will take up a roster spot all season.

 

[Jizzy]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Feb 1 2008, 10:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Feb 1 2008, 10:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Universe @ Feb 1 2008, 10:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I thought Swift had a player option and it's almost the same as Collins contract?

I wasn't actually minding Collins on the bench. He didn't cause any trouble and he was helping with Boone and Williams while Swift is pretty much a waived player because his team doesn't want him around the youth.

Awesome?</div>

I agree, but read my post above about the relative ease of trading their expiring contracts.

Swift will produce more on the court. If he gets time, he can be a decent trade chip.

Swift's worst case scenario is that he's simply an expiring deal - which makes him equal to Collins anyway.
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No, Stro's worst case scenario is that he has to be sent home and told to stay away from the team. I'd rather have McInnis around the young guys than Stro.
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worst post ever