**UPDATED** Cliff Harris stopped for driving 118 Darron Thomas was in the car

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I don't understand the issue here. I had read on a blog that Thomas was in the car but not high. Harris ended up owning up to pretty much all he did. He was punished. Thomas wasn't. Now, OSU Sheep, errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, Beavers are talking like this is the cataclysmic destruction of the team.
 
tlongII said:
I think it's likely that they were all smoking weed. They just happened to get lucky by being stopped by some star-struck troopers.
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oh no! Weed!?!?!? MARIS61!!!! :cheers:
 
Where is the issue?? Harris passed a FST. No marijuana (which is a violation in Oregon for possession under an ounce) was discovered during the stop. He made stupid decisions/choices and needs to pay the price. The matter is settled, and dates back to June. It's not like the Oregon players received 36 counts of hosting a party for minors, 36 counts of furnishing alcohol to minors and a charge of unlawful amplified sound which are criminal municipal code violations, and misdemeanors - two days after being warned by their head coach --- LIKE THE BEAVS. http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2011/08/oregon_state_football_despite.html

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"I know exactly what the situation was and I'm not concerned with Darron Thomas.

No individuals were cited for possession of marijuana or any other drug charge.
When questioned about the new information after practice this afternoon, Kelly was rather straight-forward about the revelations.

"I knew this information for awhile," said Kelly. "It's not new information for us."

Kelly went on to say that Thomas remains the unquestioned leader of his football team and described Thomas' leadership skills as, "good as I've been around."

Kelly was also pressed about Harris' admission to the OSP officer that the passengers had smoked all the marijuana. When asked if he had any concerns about Harris' statement, Kelly said "No," stating, "I saw Cliff go through a sobriety test (on the dashboard video) that the OSP officer let him go on."

"It always concerns me when there's anything like that around our players," Kelly continued, "but I know Cliff was not charged with anything...I would prefer my players aren't anywhere. I would prefer my players be in bed at midnight."



http://oregon.scout.com/2/1096500.html
 
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Targus said:
Where is the issue?? Harris passed a FST. No marijuana (which is a violation in Oregon for possession under an ounce) was discovered during the stop. The matter is settled, and dates back to June. It's not like the Oregon players received 36 counts of hosting a party for minors, 36 counts of furnishing alcohol to minors and a charge of unlawful amplified sound which are criminal municipal code violations, and misdemeanors - two days after being warned by their head coach --- LIKE THE BEAVS. http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2011/08/oregon_state_football_despite.html

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"I know exactly what the situation was and I'm not concerned with Darron Thomas.

No individuals were cited for possession of marijuana or any other drug charge.
When questioned about the new information after practice this afternoon, Kelly was rather straight-forward about the revelations.

"I knew this information for awhile," said Kelly. "It's not new information for us."

Kelly went on to say that Thomas remains the unquestioned leader of his football team and described Thomas' leadership skills as, "good as I've been around."

Kelly was also pressed about Harris' admission to the OSP officer that the passengers had smoked all the marijuana. When asked if he had any concerns about Harris' statement, Kelly said "No," stating, "I saw Cliff go through a sobriety test (on the dashboard video) that the OSP officer let him go on."

"It always concerns me when there's anything like that around our players," Kelly continued, "but I know Cliff was not charged with anything...I would prefer my players aren't anywhere. I would prefer my players be in bed at midnight."



http://oregon.scout.com/2/1096500.html
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Ya think that may be because they didn't search the car? Even after they were stopped for going 118 mph? Even after they smelled marijuana? Even after the driver said they smoked it?
 
tlongII said:
I'm saying they were lucky they weren't stopped by the Corvallis Police.
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It's true. Corvallis police seem to be a new level of asshole.

things Corvallis police would freak out about, a Gresham officer would move along.
 
JFizzleRaider said:
It's true. Corvallis police seem to be a new level of asshole.

things Corvallis police would freak out about, a Gresham officer would move along.
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That's because Gresham/Portland PD are more worried about people being shot. Corvallis PD are worried about making money off kids who are drinking.
 
So you guys think Thomas isnt smoking weed, yet he's been a passenger three times in a car that cops found or smelled weed? I'm not saying he should be busted/punished... just saying he cant be 100% innocent.
Regardless, this is more negative attention the Ducks dont need.
 
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MickZagger said:
I agree with pretty much all of this except nobody's falling asleep in the passenger seat when a car's going 118 mph.
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I have so...

pretty much nothing can hold my attention at 4:30 in the morning

STOMP
 
BeerBoy said:
So you guys think Harris isnt smoking weed, yet he's been a passenger three times in a car that cops found or smelled weed? I'm not saying he should be busted/punished... just saying he cant be 100% innocent.
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I'm meaning what I said. I wouldn't really care if any Blazer or Duck or Husky or Laker smoked pot or drank as long as they weren't behind the wheel endangering others, and Kelly doesn't seem to think that Thomas was even guilty of that this case. I'd care if a player was such a stoner or drunk that they embarrassed themselves being an idiot like the USC running back recently or if it was concerning the coach, but I know plenty of very successful people who can manage having a few beers in the evening and still kick butt at their work.

I'm pretty sure that they don't test college players for pot... it's also my assumption that quite a few from most every team smoke at least occasionally. At least in my circles of friends there have always been some people that smoked and others who didn't. Hell, I play disc golf pretty regularly, like the Grateful Dead and surfing, yet don't smoke. Your "he cant be 100% innocent" statement is at least a few % off.

Regardless, this is more negative attention the Ducks dont need.
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you're right that they don't need the negative attention that you're trying to bring, but I really don't think it matters much to anyone outside those few who obsess on hating the Ducks. The U is putting things into perspective, and relatively this is jaywalking.

STOMP
 
Driving 118 is the problem here. Who cares about whether they smelled weed?
 
tlongII said:
Ya think that may be because they didn't search the car? Even after they were stopped for going 118 mph? Even after they smelled marijuana? Even after the driver said they smoked it?
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The officers appraised the situation, the truthfulness of the players and acted accordingly. They gave Harris a field sobriety test (he easily passed). Maybe if they had been OSU players the officers would have been more sheepish, but I doubt it.
 
STOMP said:
you're right that they don't need the negative attention that you're trying to bring, but I really don't think it matters much to anyone outside those few who obsess on hating the Ducks. The U is putting things into perspective, and relatively this is jaywalking.
STOMP
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Negative attention I'm trying to bring? That's hilarious! Thanks for the laugh! Last I checked I'm a nobody... I cant bring any attention to a college football team. I'm not the local/national media. It doesnt matter? Is that why it was on the front page of ESPN, KATU, KGW etc etc. yesterday? When it involves the Ducks... lots of people care (good or bad). This would be big news if it involved any top college team and their star QB. That's the price ya pay for being good.
I hardly obsess over hating on the Ducks... and you obviously hardly read and understand my posts.
Relatively this is jaywalking? Sure it is... keep telling yourself that. I wish smoking weed was viewed like jaywalking, but we all know its not. Nor is underage drinking, fighting, stealing laptops, stealing sheep, busting into a womens house naked, etc. etc. etc.
 
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Also for the record, Harris was honest and cooperative, in addition to respectful to the officer. On the flip-side, you have four OSU players receive 32 offenses (including misdemeanor crimes) who hide and attempt to trick the police when first confronted. Kudos to Cliff for being a man who is willing to be honest and accept the consequences of his actions.
 
Fact: possession of less than an ounce of marijuana is a violation in Oregon. It is a cite and release offense.
 
Targus said:
Fact: possession of less than an ounce of marijuana is a violation in Oregon. It is a cite and release offense.
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Did anyone state differently? IMO, it shouldnt be a violation at all. Weed is no worse than beer/booze IMO.
 
BeerBoy said:
Negative attention I'm trying to bring? That's hilarious! Thanks for the laugh!
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should I rep you? You're taking a throw away response joke as the main part of my post and skipping past or misinterpreting the rest

Last I checked I'm a nobody... I cant bring any attention to a college football team. I'm not the local/national media.
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yup, sorry I made a joke

It doesnt matter? Is that why it was on the front page of ESPN, KATU, KGW etc etc. yesterday?
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and days before the Beaver drunks disobeying their coach's recent orders was front page news on the same media. But now relatively no one cares just like no one cares about that. Both stories are minor nothings in the sports gossip world since Miami came along and trumped everything.

When it involves the Ducks... lots of people care (good or bad). This would be big news if it involved any top college team and their star QB. That's the price ya pay for being good.
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10 people could be accurately be described as lots of people. So could 10% of the American population. I can tell you that here in SF I haven't spoken to one person or overheard anyone talking about it. I did hear them talk about it on a sports talk show. The hosts made a few jokes and were done with it in about a minute. The same hosts gave the Beavs the same treatment a few days earlier. Here is a complied search of all the stories on it in the SF Chronicle.

I hardly obsess over hating on the Ducks... and you obviously hardly read and understand my posts.
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where did I say you obsess on hating the ducks? I said "I really don't think it matters much to anyone outside those few who obsess on hating the Ducks"... it's not me who is putting you in this group. You've got a pot/kettle thing going on understanding my posts

Relatively this is jaywalking? Sure it is... keep telling yourself that. I wish smoking weed was viewed like jaywalking, but we all know its not. Nor is underage drinking, fighting, stealing laptops, stealing sheep, busting into a womens house naked, etc. etc. etc.
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some of those things are pretty serious. I don't think too many people would agree star QB Darron Thomas not smoking weed is one of them. I'm thinking the way that this car was rented could prove to hold more serious consequences then anything Will Lyles related. But pretty certain a couple days pass and the DT portion is yesterday's news much like the Beaver's recent troubles. Young people fuck up as they grow up, most people who've lived a little understand this. Many (North American) people also like watching football and the excitement of that season is upon us. Thats what they care about far more then some petty fuck up

STOMP
 
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Interesting story by KATU. I think it was right for the OSP officer to do a sobriety test. If he didn't see pot smoke billowing out from the car he shouldn't think to do a vehicle search. i think it was right for the officer to do a basic sobriety test and a speeding ticket.
http://www.katu.com/news/local/127977868.html
 
^ Why do you have a gas station as your avatar?!?!?!?
 
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