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What is not true?

He said he regrets it, he does.

Democrats brought suit against him, claiming his donations illegal because their personal relationship mean it wasn't independent spending. Hypocrites. Yep, it is politics.

Sure seems like a diversion away from issues and policy positions. Someone is scared.


Andrew Miller, called police in April 2013 and accused Wehby of stalking him, entering his home without permission and harassing his employees.



That is what he told police and is to be expected as true (from Millers eyes) because that is what he said.

You are right, he said he regrets it (and without any knowledge of scratch my back I scratch your), I accept that as being true. He regrets it.

It's the implication you make of why he said he regrets it that makes me wonder if you know how politics work. Read enough of your posts to know you know how politics works more than me. But I do know when people talk around the bush so to speak and say things hoping people thinks it means something else. Surprised you were so quick to jump on the implication he wants to put out there.

Let me ask, why make it an implication. This is all very calculated stuff. People retract statements to police all the time.

Is Merkley scared . . . I don't know?
 
What's up with this guy? How many guys in this forum have ever called the cops because a Lady rang your door bell? WTF why didn't the dude answer the door and tell her, your done my dear.

Something wrong with this scene, sort of like it was written by the Oregonian.

Which guy . . . the educated wealthy timber guy or the other guy.

Maybe something is wrong with her . . . can that be possible?

I don't think the Oregonian forged police documents . ..
 
There is a bottom line here.

Wehby is bright enough to become a Dr. She may not be bright enough to deal with an asshole boy friend.

Merkley doesn't know the uses of a 100w light bulb. He also expects to get revenue from a tax designed to cause employers to cease insuring their retired people.

Geez! I will take the lady that can do something.
 
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Andrew Miller, called police in April 2013 and accused Wehby of stalking him, entering his home without permission and harassing his employees.



That is what he told police and is to be expected as true (from Millers eyes) because that is what he said.

You are right, he said he regrets it (and without any knowledge of scratch my back I scratch your), I accept that as being true. He regrets it.

It's the implication you make of why he said he regrets it that makes me wonder if you know how politics work. Read enough of your posts to know you know how politics works more than me. But I do know when people talk around the bush so to speak and say things hoping people thinks it means something else. Surprised you were so quick to jump on the implication he wants to put out there.

Let me ask, why make it an implication. This is all very calculated stuff. People retract statements to police all the time.

Is Merkley scared . . . I don't know?

I know how politics work. US ambassador is killed, change the subject to binders of women.

This is a similar smoke screen. I'm calling it what it is.
 
There is a bottom line here.

Wehby is bright enough to become a Dr. She may not be bright enough to deal with an asshole boy friend.

Merkley doesn't know the uses of a 100w light bulb. He also expects to get revenue from a tax designed to cause employers to cease insuring their retired people.

Geez! I will take the lady that can do something.

Hey this I agree with other than you casually labeling the man an asshole (because of course it could never be that Wehby is a psycho girlfriend).

But unless someone can show how her bad judgement in relationships translates to being a bad senator . . . it's really irrelevant.

I wonder how you would react if two different woman filed police reports against Merkley making claims these men did. Be honest . . .
 
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I know how politics work. US ambassador is killed, change the subject to binders of women.

This is a similar smoke screen. I'm calling it what it is.

Yes. I agree. And in turn the other side answer with a similar smoke screen saying "I regret it".

Don't just see one side
 
I also believe these police reports were released because of the Merkley campaign . . . this is all politics as usual (digging up skeletons in someone's past)
 
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Yes. I agree. And in turn the other side answer with a similar smoke screen saying "I regret it".

Don't just see one side

The guy basically said what I believe to be true. They dated for 2 years, and had a rough break up. They're long past it and are friends now. They both did things in the heat of the moment that they regret. That's what he said. It makes sense.

If he was really pissed at her, I think he'd back a different candidate.

And I don't think this has any relevance to her ability to do the job, or reflects on her judgment or whatever.
 
The guy basically said what I believe to be true. They dated for 2 years, and had a rough break up. They're long past it and are friends now. They both did things in the heat of the moment that they regret. That's what he said. It makes sense.

If he was really pissed at her, I think he'd back a different candidate.

And I don't think this has any relevance to her ability to do the job, or reflects on her judgment or whatever.

It appears Wehby has a pattern of acting inappropriately in the heat of the moment when it comes to relationships. We aren't talking an isolated incident.

But yes, I don't think it has any relevance to her ability to do the job, just like it didn't seem to have any impact on the way she conducted herself as a doctor. But to imply Wehby didn't go off the deep end with a couple of her relationships is a wrong implication, IMO.
 
I don't get it, you are asking what is wrong with this guy. Are you talking about Miller (who is a prominent supporter of Wehby, that answers your question :) ), or the other guy who filed a police report against Wehby.

Weird! She slapped him with a pad of paper! "Jim said he had been volent with her in the past aprox. 3 years ago" !

The guy calls the cops??

This lady is not so good picking her companion.


http://media.oregonlive.com/politics_impact/other/Wehby police report 12.16.07.pdf


Yep, the Oregonian dredged this up from seven years ago.
 
So MA, if Merkley had two police reports filed against him by two woman . . . would you attack Merkley, the alleged victims or say it's a non-issue?

Truly curious?
 
Strange in our society that when men make allegations, it is accepted to attack the alleged victim. If these were woman making the allegations . . . I think it would feel uncomfortable to many to attack the alleged victims.
 
It appears Wehby has a pattern of acting inappropriately in the heat of the moment when it comes to relationships. We aren't talking an isolated incident.

But yes, I don't think it has any relevance to her ability to do the job, just like it didn't seem to have any impact on the way she conducted herself as a doctor. But to imply Wehby didn't go off the deep end with a couple of her relationships is a wrong implication, IMO.

Really. It appears democrats have a pattern of making bad policy decisions that are worth firing their asses. When it comes election time, they distract. You think you're seeing some "other side" but you're being duped.

I don't know if she's worth voting for, but these aren't reasons to not vote for her.
 
So MA, if Merkley had two police reports filed against him by two woman . . . would you attack Merkley, the alleged victims or say it's a non-issue?

Truly curious?

No, I am attacking Merkley because of the votes he has made and the responses he has given me directly. He is incompetent to be my Representative and have proven it to me.
Probably anyone else that would think about it. If this lady proves to be incompetent then we chuck her ass too.
 
Really. It appears democrats have a pattern of making bad policy decisions that are worth firing their asses. When it comes election time, they distract. You think you're seeing some "other side" but you're being duped.

I don't know if she's worth voting for, but these aren't reasons to not vote for her.

Well OK. You are the one being duped by the republican party as you bit hook line and sinker with the vague statement by the Miller that makes you think you see it clearly now when reality is you really don't know much about their relationship or what transpired at that time.

This discussion was never about democrats voting as you try your own smoke screen.

Everyone has a right to vote and base their decision on what is important to them so being presumptuous that what reasons people should use to vote doesn't understand politics at all.
 
Well OK. You are the one being duped by the republican party as you bit hook line and sinker with the vague statement by the Miller that makes you think you see it clearly now when reality is you really don't know much about their relationship or what transpired at that time.

This discussion was never about democrats voting as you try your own smoke screen.

Everyone has a right to vote and base their decision on what is important to them so being presumptuous that what reasons people should use to vote doesn't understand politics at all.

Ambassador getting killed in Libya is an issue. Binders of women is not.

The VA with its secret waiting lists and rationing of care that killed veterans is an issue. Non-violent domestic dispute among people who claim to be friends now is not an issue.

There's your pattern. If you fucked up and get called out for it, change the topic.
 
More on the politics. Seems she struck a nerve and was gaining ground on Merkley for his lack of calling for Shinseki's head after the embarrassment and tragedy that is the current VA scandal. Merkley also cut his teeth on military and veterans' issues.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/28/monica-wehby-veterans-affairs_n_5407866.html?1401334089

Can't have that! Change the subject!

How does emailing a fundraising letter equate to 'gaining ground'?

barfo
 
How does emailing a fundraising letter equate to 'gaining ground'?

barfo

Why else change the subject?

http://dailycaller.com/2014/05/02/wave-year-daily-caller-poll-shows-deep-blue-oregon-flashing-red/

Oregon Democratic Sen. Jeff Merkley is running neck-and-neck with Republican challenger Monica Wehby, according to a new Daily Caller/Vox Populi Polling survey of registered voters in the state.

Wehby, a Portland-based pediatric neurosurgeon, received the support of 40 percent of respondents, while an additional five percent say they are leaning towards supporting the first-time candidate. Merkley, who was elected to the Senate in 2008, garners the support of just 39 percent of respondents, with two percent saying they lean towards supporting him.

...

Earlier polls have shown Wehby within striking distance of Merkley, which the latter’s campaign attempted to rebut last week by leaking an internal poll that showed him running away with a 20 point lead.



http://thehill.com/policy/defense/207041-senate-dems-close-ranks-on-va

Senate Dems close ranks behind Shinseki

Senate Democrats are closing ranks behind Secretary of Veterans Affairs Eric Shinseki and President Obama’s decision to keep him in the Cabinet despite Republican calls for his ouster.

As of Thursday afternoon, not a single Democratic senator had called for Shinseki's resignation.


Pressure has built this week on the White House to take action on the VA controversy, and calls from Democrats for Shinseki’s head have emerged.

But only a few Democrats have joined Republicans in demanding his ouster so far.

Alison Lundergan Grimes, who is running to unseat Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.), and two conservative House Democrats from Georgia, John Barrow and David Scott, have called for him to step down.

“Members will keep a close eye on what the investigations bring forward, but right now he has strong support within the caucus,” said a senior Democratic aide.

Shinseki’s support on Capitol Hill could quickly evaporate if investigators find he had knowledge of efforts to deceive veterans.

Vulnerable Senate Democrats said any VA officials found responsible for misleading veterans should be fired.

“Reports of improper scheduling practices that have resulted in life-threatening delays for our veterans are completely unacceptable, and there must be a full investigation to immediately determine the extent of the problem and hold accountable those responsible, no matter who it is,” said Sen. Kay Hagan (D-N.C.), one of the chamber’s most vulnerable incumbents.

Sen. Jeff Merkley (D), who has a competitive race in Oregon, said, “It's a huge problem, huge problem. We have to get to the bottom of who's responsible. Whoever's responsible should lose their jobs.”
 
Ambassador getting killed in Libya is an issue. Binders of women is not.

The VA with its secret waiting lists and rationing of care that killed veterans is an issue. Non-violent domestic dispute among people who claim to be friends now is not an issue.

There's your pattern. If you fucked up and get called out for it, change the topic.

That's deep, Denny. People - especially politicians - change the subject when something unpleasant comes up. Never would have guessed that.

You second example isn't very good because the stalking charges came up before the VA scandal.

barfo
 
That's deep, Denny. People - especially politicians - change the subject when something unpleasant comes up. Never would have guessed that.

You second example isn't very good because the stalking charges came up before the VA scandal.

barfo

Always on the wrong side, you are.

The democratic party dirt machine dug up those old police reports and made them public AFTER the VA scandal.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/polit...regon-senate-wehby-20140602-story.html#page=1

Then, just before the May 20 primary, reports surfaced regarding Wehby’s personal life — a bitter divorce, a difficult romantic breakup, calls to the police by her ex-husband and a former boyfriend, who both accused her of harassment. Suddenly, her candidacy came under much harsher scrutiny and Oregon became the latest testing ground in the ever-fraught battle over politics and gender.

Democrats, already pressed to keep their Senate majority, have quietly pushed the Wehby-as-stalker story, even as the incumbent, Jeff Merkley, distances himself to avert any backlash.
 
Always on the wrong side, you are.

The democratic party dirt machine dug up those old police reports and made them public AFTER the VA scandal.

You are absolutely right. I posted that from memory - somehow the VA seemed fresher news to me than the stalking.
However, I'm pretty sure you are wrong that the stalking came up because of the VA scandal. It would have come out VA scandal or not.

barfo
 
You are absolutely right. I posted that from memory - somehow the VA seemed fresher news to me than the stalking.
However, I'm pretty sure you are wrong that the stalking came up because of the VA scandal. It would have come out VA scandal or not.

barfo

I'm pretty sure that you, like your memory, are wrong :)

What I believe is that Merkley had a big lead. His internal polling showed her gaining. His organization claims their polling shows a 20 point lead. Since she won the primary, polls have shown her up in the one case, or down by half what his organization claims. Whatever it is, they felt the need to change the subject.

How about bashing her for her stance on abortion? Like, that's an actual campaign issue.

However, I will agree that if there weren't a VA scandal, there'd be something else embarrassing so they'd have publicized the police reports.
 
What I believe is that Merkley had a big lead. His internal polling showed her gaining.

Sounds like you are pulling that idea out of your ass.

How about bashing her for her stance on abortion? Like, that's an actual campaign issue.

You go ahead and bash her for her abortion stance if you like. As far as I can tell that's the least of the problems with her candidacy.

However, I will agree that if there weren't a VA scandal, there'd be something else embarrassing so they'd have publicized the police reports.

You know that absolutely everything embarrassing that can be unearthed about the opposition will be, so why pretend it is linked to some national scandal? Hell, for that matter, there's no proof that her Republican primary opponent didn't release the data.

barfo
 
Sounds like you are pulling that idea out of your ass.



You go ahead and bash her for her abortion stance if you like. As far as I can tell that's the least of the problems with her candidacy.



You know that absolutely everything embarrassing that can be unearthed about the opposition will be, so why pretend it is linked to some national scandal? Hell, for that matter, there's no proof that her Republican primary opponent didn't release the data.

barfo

Honorable people don't dig up old stuff like this, losers do, especially when they feel like they are going down.
 
Honorable people don't dig up old stuff like this, losers do, especially when they feel like they are going down.

Well, Jason Conger lost, so I guess that makes him a loser and a likely candidate to have done this?

barfo
 

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