Wade Baldwin coming up

[Wizard Mentor]

Huge difference between guys like Nurk and Baldwin who aren't bad guys they just were frustrated with not playing and guys like Rueben Patterson (nanny raper), Qyntel Woods (dog fighting ring), Z-Bo (multiple incidents with his entourage), Stoudamire (dumb enough to try and take weed wrapped in tin foil through the airport), JR Rider (dumb enough to smoke weed out of a soda can on the side of the road), and Bonzi (said he didn't care about the fans or what they think). Do you want to continue this discussion or do you realize how silly that sounds to compare those guys?

JR is pissed that you didn't mention that he, as a millionaire, was illegally selling cell phones on the side.

 

[handiman]

Huge difference between guys like Nurk and Baldwin who aren't bad guys they just were frustrated with not playing and guys like Rueben Patterson (nanny raper), Qyntel Woods (dog fighting ring), Z-Bo (multiple incidents with his entourage), Stoudamire (dumb enough to try and take weed wrapped in tin foil through the airport), JR Rider (dumb enough to smoke weed out of a soda can on the side of the road), and Bonzi (said he didn't care about the fans or what they think). Do you want to continue this discussion or do you realize how silly that sounds to compare those guys?

I didn't say what the character issues are, just that our franchise isn't above giving up on players for the same reason.

Then again, the average Portland fan is convinced that every other fan in the league knows nothing about basketball.

 

[hoopsjock]

I didn't say what the character issues are, just that our franchise isn't above giving up on players for the same reason.

Then again, the average Portland fan is convinced that every other fan in the league knows nothing about basketball.

I think that is a rather big over generalization of the average Portland fan.

Can you really not see the difference between doing illegal activity while being bad human beings compared to a guy who is simply upset with playing time? Since Olshey took over he's been pretty steadfast about only bringing in guys who fit in the culture.

 

[hoopsjock]

JR is pissed that you didn't mention that he, as a millionaire, was illegally selling cell phones on the side.

Man, so much stuff happened during that era! I just quickly typed what came to mind. Didn't Rider also kidnap someone? Maybe even two different incidents of it?

I once saw Rider and Gary Trent at a 7-11 buying Visine. Their eyes were both super red and they were stumbling all around.

 

[Boob-No-More]

I didn't say what the character issues are, just that our franchise isn't above giving up on players for the same reason.

I think you are confusing the terms character flaw and criminal activity.

Baldwin and Nurk were both upset by their roles and lack of playing time. You could stretch that a bit and say they had character issues.

Qyntel Woods plead guilty to dog fighting, Ruben Patterson plead guilty to sexual assault, Rider was convicted of assault for kicking a woman in the back.

Do you not see the differences?

BNM

 

[Scalma]

I didn't say what the character issues are, just that our franchise isn't above giving up on players for the same reason.

Then again, the average Portland fan is convinced that every other fan in the league knows nothing about basketball.

There’s a difference. Guys like Nurkic and Baldwin were talented players buried on the bench. It’d be like if Blazers fans got bitter about Barton getting an opportunity elsewhere and running with narratives (that may not even be completely true) that don’t involve basketball instead of just being happy for the guy. “Our management could never make a mistake, so let’s blame the player it’s much easier.”

 

[Scalma]

Btw, Kings fans and Papagiannis are next lmao.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Btw, Kings fans and Papagiannis are next lmao.

That assumes there is such a thing as Kings fans.

BNM

 

[Scalma]

That assumes there is such a thing as Kings fans.

BNM

You’re joking, but they draw pretty well relative to what they offer as a product.

 

[Boob-No-More]

You’re joking, but they draw pretty well relative to what they offer as a product.

Yeah, that new arena must be really dope, or the ticket prices really low, or something. Cause it sure ain't the product on the floor that's putting butts in the seats.

BNM

 

[Scalma]

Yeah, that new arena must be really dope, or the ticket prices really low, or something. Cause it sure ain't the product on the floor that's putting butts in the seats.

BNM

It’s sacramento. Nothing else to do.

 

[riverman]

It’s sacramento. Nothing else to do.

Old town Sac has great live blues clubs..Sac has fans from the burbs all around the city...out there, there's nothing to do for sure

 

[BBert]

You’re joking, but they draw pretty well relative to what they offer as a product.

Speaking of "draw": Houston has the best record in the league, and watching the game last night, half the seating I could see on the screen was empty. Great fans.

 

[Lanny]

Speaking of "draw": Houston has the best record in the league, and watching the game last night, half the seating I could see on the screen was empty. Great fans.

My wife and I noticed that also.

 

[riverman]

Speaking of "draw": Houston has the best record in the league, and watching the game last night, half the seating I could see on the screen was empty. Great fans.

Miami shocks me....those seats are always empty

 

[handiman]

I think you are confusing the terms character flaw and criminal activity.

Baldwin and Nurk were both upset by their roles and lack of playing time. You could stretch that a bit and say they had character issues.

Qyntel Woods plead guilty to dog fighting, Ruben Patterson plead guilty to sexual assault, Rider was convicted of assault for kicking a woman in the back.

Do you not see the differences?

BNM

1) I didn't say I don't see a difference. I just didn't choose to delve into the variations and degrees of character flaws. The point was to address the question of how/why Memphis gave up on Baldwin. Hell, they were the eventual [big time] beneficiary of us doing the same thing with Z-Bo.

2) Y'all are juxtaposing Nurk and Baldwin all of a sudden. Nurk sulked in Denver over role and playing time. Baldwin was too cocky from the get go. Nurk was situational, Baldwin was a character flaw that he has owned up to and hopefully put behind him.

 

[hoopsjock]

1) I didn't say I don't see a difference. I just didn't choose to delve into the variations and degrees of character flaws. The point was to address the question of how/why Memphis gave up on Baldwin. Hell, they were the eventual [big time] beneficiary of us doing the same thing with Z-Bo.

2) Y'all are juxtaposing Nurk and Baldwin all of a sudden. Nurk sulked in Denver over role and playing time. Baldwin was too cocky from the get go. Nurk was situational, Baldwin was a character flaw that he has owned up to and hopefully put behind him.

So you are just going to ignore the difference between wanting a bigger role on a basketball team and being a criminal off of the court?

You claim you see the difference but then post like the difference doesn't mean anything. It means everything!

 

[TBpup]

James Harde had been averaging 45 ppg against the Blazers this season. With Baldwin hounding him for a good portion of the game, he scored 24. Coincidence? Too small of a sample size....but it certainly didn't hurt to have someone up in his face and not backing down.

 

[stampedehero]

I would like him to score 20+ against De Spurs.

 

[stampedehero]

My wife and I noticed that also.

Did the Astro's have a home stand? Maybe it was barbeque night somewhere else in Houston.

 

[theprunetang]

James Harde had been averaging 45 ppg against the Blazers this season. With Baldwin hounding him for a good portion of the game, he scored 24. Coincidence? Too small of a sample size....but it certainly didn't hurt to have someone up in his face and not backing down.

In the past, Terry Stotts employed the same defensive system against Harden as he does against Lebron and Durant. That is to NOT double them. Those players are all such great floor generals that their teammates will end up getting really easy shots. So, let the super star get theirs, but make them work for it.

After the "starters" went out of the game, the team started doubling Harden and Paul, and picking then up full court. The personnel definitely had something to do with it, ie, Poison IV. But, the defensive game plan was also completely different. I'm hoping that system is here to stay, at least situationally.

 

[handiman]

So you are just going to ignore the difference between wanting a bigger role on a basketball team and being a criminal off of the court?

Huh? Are we talking about Baldwin or Nurkic now?

 

[Scalma]

Huh? Are we talking about Baldwin or Nurkic now?

Which one is the criminal

 

[BBert]

Did the Astro's have a home stand? Maybe it was barbeque night somewhere else in Houston.

Maybe they were all at a big WalMart grand opening.

 

[stampedehero]

Maybe they were all at a big WalMart grand opening.

That happens in Arkansas.