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I just don't understand why it has to be so targeted. You're not getting the Zio money out of politics unless you're getting all money out of politics.

I don't blame people for voting for Trump the first time. Voting for Trump the second time was absolute insanity.
When Kamala says i don't intend on doing anything different than Biden, I don't blame them. There's a recency bias and Biden was pretty trash. It's not that Trump is some formidable opponent. It's that the Democrats are absolute garbage who don't know how to differentiate themselves because they're owned by the same donors as the Republicans.
 
Israeli agents have been arrested in Saudi Arabia and UAE for false flags trying to frame Iran. And some people want to have diplomacy with these people.

 
Israeli agents have been arrested in Saudi Arabia and UAE for false flags trying to frame Iran. And some people want to have diplomacy with these people.


Why do you keep pouring junk posts to the thread?

Based on what's verifiable right now, Iran's claim is not corroborated by independent evidence.
Here's how to assess it:
Reasons to be skeptical of Iran's denial:
  • Tasnim News Agency is an Iranian state-linked outlet — not an independent source
  • The denial came after Saudi Arabia and Western sources had already attributed the attack to Iranian drones
  • Iran has previously denied involvement in attacks later confirmed to be theirs (e.g., the 2019 Abqaiq-Khurais strike)
  • The "blame Israel" framing fits a well-established Iranian information warfare pattern
  • Multiple simultaneous attacks across the Gulf region that same day (Abu Dhabi, Dubai, Doha, Bahrain, Oman) align with Iranian — not Israeli — attack patterns
What would need to be true for Iran's claim to hold up:
  • Independent technical evidence (drone fragments, flight paths, electronic signatures) pointing to Israeli origin
  • A plausible Israeli motive for striking Saudi oil infrastructure while already at war with Iran
  • Corroboration from Saudi Arabia or a neutral third party — neither of which has emerge
No independent verification exists yet. In the fog of an active regional conflict, final attribution takes time. But as of now, the weight of evidence points to Iran, and the "Israel did it" claim comes exclusively from Iranian state media with no supporting evidence presented.
Treat it as Iranian counter-messaging, not established fact.

Cmon people, is anyone on my team here wanting to minimize this constant biased twitter posts? Im not saying full stop, but this is just borderline dumpster fire.. or am I the one out of place with this.. let me know.
 

US commanders tell troops Trump 'anointed by Jesus' to start Iran war sparking hundreds of complaints​

A nonprofit U.S. military watchdog said it has received hundreds of complaints about commanders providing religious reasons for starting the Iran war​


 
When Kamala says i don't intend on doing anything different than Biden, I don't blame them. There's a recency bias and Biden was pretty trash. It's not that Trump is some formidable opponent. It's that the Democrats are absolute garbage who don't know how to differentiate themselves because they're owned by the same donors as the Republicans.
I don't disagree with you. But that's not a conversation to have when Trump is an option.

Because this really sucks.

We were far, far better off with Biden.
 

President Trump shares a new reason why the U.S. attacked Iran​


President Trump on Tuesday said the United States began striking Iran over the weekend because Iran was "going to attack first."

His remarks in the Oval Office came on Day 4 of a war for which U.S. and Israeli officials have offered a variety of reasons and objectives.

 
Wow, so the CIA is going to arm the Kurds.

Let's review...

We've armed Iran in the 80s.

We've armed Israel.

Now we're going arm the Kurds.
 
Wow, so the CIA is going to arm the Kurds.

Let's review...

We've armed Iran in the 80s.

We've armed Israel.

Now we're going arm the Kurds.
I remember Trump abandoning the Kurds when Erdogan was chasing them out of Turkey and northern Syria, but now we need them again so it's all different.
 

US commanders tell troops Trump 'anointed by Jesus' to start Iran war sparking hundreds of complaints​

A nonprofit U.S. military watchdog said it has received hundreds of complaints about commanders providing religious reasons for starting the Iran war​


Yeah. Fuck that!
 
Axiomatic that wars are most popular on day one.
Over 90% supported Afghanistan war when it began. Both Iraq wars began with approval of high 70s.
Trump Epstein war in Iran began with approval of 37%.
 


This is a 'big boys' tweet. 18.3k replies. 3M views. Unlike other tweets shared here with 130-300 replies and less views..
Its ok - we know 'it was tampered and skewed and false' as Israel controls all media. But I am sharing this not for people who think that. I am sharing it for those who feel alone here and without representation to their views.
 


This is a 'big boys' tweet. 18.3k replies. 3M views. Unlike other tweets shared here with 130-300 replies and less views..
Its ok - we know 'it was tampered and skewed and false' as Israel controls all media. But I am sharing this not for people who think that. I am sharing it for those who feel alone here and without representation to their views.

Although its methodology is lacking (it's people that follow Cenk Ugyar of the Young Turks podcast), the tweet's accurate.

The tweet's also moot.

Both can have done damage to the world. Both can have done a lot of damage to the world.

Now, if Israel wants to follow Bibi into a war with Iran, so be it. That's not the United States' business, though. The United States has laws that are supposed to act as checks on president's unilaterally engaging in war. The United States also has laws that are supposed to act as checks against legislators from accepting gifts from foreign actors that might influence their opinions and actions on the world stage in ways that might not have anything to do with the country's interests.

Trump isn't sending his sons and his money to the Middle East to engage in a military actions on behalf of Bibi Netanyahu. He's sending other people's kids and wasting taxpayer money that could be spent domestically on healthcare, education, small business, etc.

The tweet doesn't address that at all.

Now, if you want to talk about Bibi and Trump going all over the world to fight injustice, then the tweet would be relevant. This situation isn't about this, though.
 
Although its methodology is lacking (it's people that follow Cenk Ugyar of the Young Turks podcast), the tweet's accurate.

The tweet's also moot.

Both can have done damage to the world. Both can have done a lot of damage to the world.

Now, if Israel wants to follow Bibi into a war with Iran, so be it. That's not the United States' business, though. The United States has laws that are supposed to act as checks on president's unilaterally engaging in war. The United States also has laws that are supposed to act as checks against legislators from accepting gifts from foreign actors that might influence their opinions and actions on the world stage in ways that might not have anything to do with the country's interests.

Trump isn't sending his sons and his money to the Middle East to engage in a military actions on behalf of Bibi Netanyahu. He's sending other people's kids and wasting taxpayer money that could be spent domestically on healthcare, education, small business, etc.

The tweet doesn't address that at all.

Now, if you want to talk about Bibi and Trump going all over the world to fight injustice, then the tweet would be relevant. This situation isn't about this, though.
First, I would like to say I really appreciate your comments and way of thinking. I find it hard to reply and energy consuming to follow up on all comments here but you are very able in replying with thougtfull and illuminating ways. Not easy at all (I struggle really hard with it I learn).

With regards to your comment:
You correctly note the poll's methodology is flawed — 370K respondents who self-select into Cenk Uygur's audience are not a representative sample of global opinion. But that was my point. (the twit was viewed 3M times so it probably had 'expanded' it's audience.

The same logic applies here. Forum comments on this thread are also not a reliable methodology for grasping global reality. Both are self-selected, politically skewed, emotionally invested communities. One leans on a Twitter poll, the other leans on forum consensus — neither is a neutral baseline. It's just a different bubble.

As for Trump motives for war (economy wise) — if you'd read the opinion piece I posted here — which was quickly dismissed (not by you as far as I know) — you'd have a clearer picture of my view of why Trump's involvement is anything but charity for Netanyahu/Israel and more aligned with the interests of the American people (btw, he is already filthy rich, so other than being his regular narcissistic juvey - I do believe he acts on what he believes to be American interests) - Short recap of the article: Trump's interest in Iran is about control — specifically, breaking the Russia–China–Iran alliance that has been quietly eroding American economic dominance. The Strait of Hormuz alone carries 20% of the world's daily oil supply. Whoever controls that strait controls what China pays for energy, what Russia earns from selling it, and the leverage the entire Eastern axis holds. Iran was the keystone of that structure. Remove it, and China's cheap oil pipeline fractures, Russia loses one of its last reliable buyers, and American economic leverage is restored.

Venezuela, Greenland, and Iran aren't three separate stories — they're one move: systematically dismantling the economic infrastructure of the competing bloc. Trump isn't doing this for Bibi or Israel, He is not being dragged anywhere. He's doing it because energy routes are power.

If anything, Israel is the regional piece in a much larger American chess game — not the other way around IMHO.
 
Wow, so the CIA is going to arm the Kurds.

Let's review...

We've armed Iran in the 80s.

We've armed Israel.

Now we're going arm the Kurds.
Oh, I forgot, we also armed Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan.
 

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