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DUI hire complaining about media reporting dead American service members. According to him, they are just trying to make Trump look bad by talking about deaths instead of all the successes.
 
Sheldon Shape said:
Israel is attacking everybody. Still think this is someone who should be negotiated with?

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Do I need to Google/Claude any Propaganda you spew here for people to know your comments are the most hatful agenda driven lies, distortion and false info?
@Phatguysrule why do you align with this trolling?

This claim appears to be false or heavily distorted. Here's what the evidence actually shows:


What's actually happening (as of early March 2026):


The Israel-US war against Iran began around February 28, 2026. Several things involving UK, France, and Turkey are real, but the framing in your claim is inverted:


  • Iran launched attacks hitting a British base in Cyprus, and struck airports and hotels where British citizens were staying — prompting PM Starmer to change his position and allow the US to use British airbases. Time
  • NATO defenses intercepted a ballistic missile launched by Iran heading toward Turkish airspace — Iran's first apparent attempt to target a NATO member since the war began. The missile was detected crossing Iraqi and Syrian airspace before being neutralized. CBS News

Where the "false flag" narrative comes from:


The false flag accusations are being made by Iran, not credible British media:


  • Iran accused Israel of carrying out a drone attack on Saudi Aramco facilities as a "false flag" operation, claiming Israel's goal was to distract regional countries from its strikes on Iranian civilian sites. Middle East Monitor
  • Iran's military also denied involvement in strikes on Oman, claiming that "the aggressor Zionists and Americans are seeking to attack diplomatic centers and the interests of Muslim countries in the region with the aim of blaming the Islamic Republic." Pravda USA

The source of the claim you saw:


The "false flag" framing appears in fringe outlets like 21st Century Wire, which speculated that Israel might stage a false flag to drag the US into war — sourced from an editor named Patrick Henningsen, not mainstream British media. 21st Century Wire This site is well-known for conspiracy-adjacent and pro-Kremlin narratives.


Bottom line: This is almost certainly Iranian-aligned or fringe-outlet disinformation, misattributed to "British media" to lend it credibility. The actual documented events show Iran attacking British, Turkish, and Gulf assets — not Israel staging false flags against European targets. Classic inversion tactic.
 

Trump Humiliated by Allied Pilot Who Downed $100 Million Worth of U.S. Jets​


A single allied pilot flying an American-made fighter jet was responsible for downing three U.S. jets worth a combined $100 million.

Originally it was believed that surface-to-air missiles were responsible for Sunday’s friendly fire incident in Kuwait, where Iran launched retaliatory strikes against U.S. allies after President Donald Trump launched his military campaign.

Three F-15E Strike Eagles flying in support of Operation Epic Fury were “mistakenly shot down by Kuwaiti air defenses,” forcing all six crew members to eject, U.S. Central Command said in a statement.

It turns out a Kuwaiti F/A-18 pilot launched three missiles against the U.S. aircraft, which cost $31.1 million each, sources familiar with initial incident reports told The Wall Street Journal.

Replacing them could be even more expensive, though, as the latest generation F-15EX Eagle II costs about $90 million per aircraft, according to Barron’s.

The crew—three pilots and three weapons systems officers—were all safely recovered and were in stable condition.

The incident took place soon after an Iranian drone penetrated Kuwait’s air defenses and hit a triple-wide trailer serving as a tactical-operations center at a commercial port, killing six U.S. troops, a source told the Journal.

www.thedailybeast.com

Trump Humiliated by Allied Pilot Who Downed $100 Million Worth of U.S. Jets

New details have emerged about a friendly fire incident in Kuwait.
www.thedailybeast.com www.thedailybeast.com
 
2Fluffy4U said:
Do I need to Google/Claude any Propaganda you spew here for people to know your comments are the most hatful agenda driven lies, distortion and false info?
@Phatguysrule why do you align with this trolling?

This claim appears to be false or heavily distorted. Here's what the evidence actually shows:


What's actually happening (as of early March 2026):


The Israel-US war against Iran began around February 28, 2026. Several things involving UK, France, and Turkey are real, but the framing in your claim is inverted:


  • Iran launched attacks hitting a British base in Cyprus, and struck airports and hotels where British citizens were staying — prompting PM Starmer to change his position and allow the US to use British airbases. Time
  • NATO defenses intercepted a ballistic missile launched by Iran heading toward Turkish airspace — Iran's first apparent attempt to target a NATO member since the war began. The missile was detected crossing Iraqi and Syrian airspace before being neutralized. CBS News

Where the "false flag" narrative comes from:


The false flag accusations are being made by Iran, not credible British media:


  • Iran accused Israel of carrying out a drone attack on Saudi Aramco facilities as a "false flag" operation, claiming Israel's goal was to distract regional countries from its strikes on Iranian civilian sites. Middle East Monitor
  • Iran's military also denied involvement in strikes on Oman, claiming that "the aggressor Zionists and Americans are seeking to attack diplomatic centers and the interests of Muslim countries in the region with the aim of blaming the Islamic Republic." Pravda USA

The source of the claim you saw:


The "false flag" framing appears in fringe outlets like 21st Century Wire, which speculated that Israel might stage a false flag to drag the US into war — sourced from an editor named Patrick Henningsen, not mainstream British media. 21st Century Wire This site is well-known for conspiracy-adjacent and pro-Kremlin narratives.


Bottom line: This is almost certainly Iranian-aligned or fringe-outlet disinformation, misattributed to "British media" to lend it credibility. The actual documented events show Iran attacking British, Turkish, and Gulf assets — not Israel staging false flags against European targets. Classic inversion tactic.
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If you don't think SkyNews is credible British media, then you might want to look in the mirror at who is buying a bill of goods from partisan or propaganda outlets. SkyNews is considered very reliable.

IIRC, it was SkyNews that reported the drone attack on Cyprus didn't come from Iran. Now, that doesn't mean it didn't come from Iranian surrogates elsewhere, but that hasn't been established. What apparently has been established is it didn't come from Iran, which makes one wonder why we were being told early on that Iran was attacking a UK base on Cyprus.
 
2Fluffy4U said:
Do I need to Google/Claude any Propaganda you spew here for people to know your comments are the most hatful agenda driven lies, distortion and false info?
@Phatguysrule why do you align with this trolling?

This claim appears to be false or heavily distorted. Here's what the evidence actually shows:


What's actually happening (as of early March 2026):


The Israel-US war against Iran began around February 28, 2026. Several things involving UK, France, and Turkey are real, but the framing in your claim is inverted:


  • Iran launched attacks hitting a British base in Cyprus, and struck airports and hotels where British citizens were staying — prompting PM Starmer to change his position and allow the US to use British airbases. Time
  • NATO defenses intercepted a ballistic missile launched by Iran heading toward Turkish airspace — Iran's first apparent attempt to target a NATO member since the war began. The missile was detected crossing Iraqi and Syrian airspace before being neutralized. CBS News

Where the "false flag" narrative comes from:


The false flag accusations are being made by Iran, not credible British media:


  • Iran accused Israel of carrying out a drone attack on Saudi Aramco facilities as a "false flag" operation, claiming Israel's goal was to distract regional countries from its strikes on Iranian civilian sites. Middle East Monitor
  • Iran's military also denied involvement in strikes on Oman, claiming that "the aggressor Zionists and Americans are seeking to attack diplomatic centers and the interests of Muslim countries in the region with the aim of blaming the Islamic Republic." Pravda USA

The source of the claim you saw:


The "false flag" framing appears in fringe outlets like 21st Century Wire, which speculated that Israel might stage a false flag to drag the US into war — sourced from an editor named Patrick Henningsen, not mainstream British media. 21st Century Wire This site is well-known for conspiracy-adjacent and pro-Kremlin narratives.


Bottom line: This is almost certainly Iranian-aligned or fringe-outlet disinformation, misattributed to "British media" to lend it credibility. The actual documented events show Iran attacking British, Turkish, and Gulf assets — not Israel staging false flags against European targets. Classic inversion tactic.
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I don't know how true any of this is. I was just being ironical.

I don't actually believe we should be snatching up heads of state we disagree with.
 
PCmor7 said:
If you don't think SkyNews is credible British media, then you might want to look in the mirror at who is buying a bill of goods from partisan or propaganda outlets. SkyNews is considered very reliable.

IIRC, it was SkyNews that reported the drone attack on Cyprus didn't come from Iran. Now, that doesn't mean it didn't come from Iranian surrogates elsewhere, but that hasn't been established. What apparently has been established is it didn't come from Iran, which makes one wonder why we were being told early on that Iran was attacking a UK base on Cyprus.
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Skynews are just fine. Look at the Tweet - the text has nothing to do with the Sky News video. (the reporter never said anything about false flag and Israel. If you don't want or think like me that it was sent via Hizballah that is fine. you can have that prerogative, but the text "British Media claims, Israel carried out false Flag attacks on UK, France, and Türkiye’s soil or airbases to drag them into the war with Iran." is rubbish and propaganda no matter how you look at it.
 
2Fluffy4U said:
Skynews are just fine. Look at the Tweet - the text has nothing to do with the Sky News video. (the reporter never said anything about false flag and Israel. If you don't want or think like me that it was sent via Hizballah that is fine. you can have that prerogative, but the text "British Media claims, Israel carried out false Flag attacks on UK, France, and Türkiye’s soil or airbases to drag them into the war with Iran." is rubbish and propaganda no matter how you look at it.
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You are correct that we don't have any proof that it was Israel that launched the drone and was framing Iran. I think I stated that in my prior post.

However, we also don't have any proof that that wasn't what happened. We don't know.

And, we need to be honest here that Netanyahu has a lot of baggage that hurts his credibility and that Israel has financially supported a lot of American lawmakers, media and social media influencers. Israel and its surrogates dispense propaganda, too. And, one can't help but notice that the original report of the Cyprus attack was all about it coming from Iran ... so someone was pushing that narrative until someone else dug deeper.

In other words, Israel isn't entitled to the unconditional trust you want everyone here to give them and the way you are doing that sometimes comes off as bottish.

You are correct, though, in that the tweet is an example of adding 1 and 1 and arriving at 9. We don't have enough information yet to know if this was a false flag or if the drone came from Hezbollah.
 
PCmor7 said:
You are correct that we don't have any proof that it was Israel that launched the drone and was framing Iran. I think I stated that in my prior post.

However, we also don't have any proof that that wasn't what happened. We don't know.

And, we need to be honest here that Netanyahu has a lot of baggage that hurts his credibility and that Israel has financially supported a lot of American lawmakers, media and social media influencers. Israel and its surrogates dispense propaganda, too. And, one can't help but notice that the original report of the Cyprus attack was all about it coming from Iran ... so someone was pushing that narrative until someone else dug deeper.

In other words, Israel isn't entitled to the unconditional trust you want everyone here to give them and the way you are doing that sometimes comes off as bottish.

You are correct, though, in that the tweet is an example of adding 1 and 1 and arriving at 9. We don't have enough information yet to know if this was a false flag or if the drone came from Hezbollah.
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I don't want any trust at all - I need and want readers to fact check me and my comments all the time- that is what I want. I want critical thinking from both sides. You corrected me very well throughout our discussion here when I was wrong or out of place/line. It is not one dimensional, once people started pouring tweet over tweet everything started to spiral and critical thinking goes out the window and plethora of conspiracy thinking emerges. For All sides and from all sides. I am against that.
 
Confirmed. Israel is hm trying to frame Iran with attacks in other countries. How long until Israel attacks the U.S.?

 
Sheldon Shape said:
Confirmed. Israel is hm trying to frame Iran with attacks in other countries. How long until Israel attacks the U.S.?

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You guys know the drill - enter the tweet. The first comment would usually be to grok asking if this is true - guess what the answer here is.. you dont trust grok? Sure. Fact check with your favourite source verification method. Good luck have fun
 
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