Warriors @ Blazers - 10/08/15 Game Thread

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Right now, based on what I've seen, this would be my starting lineup

Dame
Crabbe
Aminu
Leonard
Davis

My bench unit would be

Frazier
CJ
Harkless
Vonleh
Plumlee

Sprinkle in Pat if the situation calls for it.
 
Ed Davis is awesome. I just wanted to say that. Balls out on every possession. Even when he loses on a play you never feel like it was for a lack of effort.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Right now, based on what I've seen, this would be my starting lineup

Dame
Crabbe
Aminu
Leonard
Davis

My bench unit would be

Frazier
CJ
Harkless
Vonleh
Plumlee

Sprinkle in Pat if the situation calls for it.
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Perfect. Although if Plumlee can find his footing, I'd rather have his passing ability in the starting lineup.
 
My man AC has a good game and now he is a potential All Star? [emoji15]


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The KoolAid guy up there said that^! Why wasn't he saying this a couple days ago?


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HCP said:
The KoolAid guy up there said that^! Why wasn't he saying this a couple days ago?


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Any competent shooting guard has all star potential, thanks to the dearth of talent at that position. Now, I'm not saying he could ever be Clyde or Roy, but are you telling me that he doesn't have the potential for a Rip Hamilton-level season in him?
 
HCP said:
My man AC has a good game and now he is a potential All Star? [emoji15]


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Who said he was an All-Star? When did HCP turn into BGD?
 
Natebishop3 said:
Who said he was an All-Star?
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PtldPlatypus said:
[Full Mags]

Crabbe, Harkless, Vonleh, and Leonard all have all-star potential. If those four all develop well over the course of the season, we could have a killer starting five by season's end.

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Clearly, with the Full Mags tags, meant to be tongue-in-cheek.

Natebishop3 said:
When did HCP turn into BGD?
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After he ate him.

Or perhaps they have formed an unholy alliance and BGD is really a Mini-HCP.

BNM
 
HCP said:
The KoolAid guy up there said that^! Why wasn't he saying this a couple days ago?


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And I've said several times that he could and probably should start at the 2. Last night, however, was the first time he looked like Michael Redd out there.

Again, not saying he necessarily will ever be an all star, but he has the talent to make that leap if he can make the most of his opportunity.
 
I'm wondering, if Henderson doesn't come back quickly and plays well, if he's about to be Wally Pipp'd. CJ isn't only going to get 12 mpg behind Dame. That leaves Aminu, Harkless, Crabbe and Henderson fighting for roughly 80mpg at the wings. Assuming the starters get 30-ish each, two of those guys are backups fighting over 20 mpg.
 
BrianFromWA said:
I'm wondering, if Henderson doesn't come back quickly and plays well, if he's about to be Wally Pipp'd. CJ isn't only going to get 12 mpg behind Dame. That leaves Aminu, Harkless, Crabbe and Henderson fighting for roughly 80mpg at the wings. Assuming the starters get 30-ish each, two of those guys are backups fighting over 20 mpg.
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Aminu shouldn't be in the conversation for SG minutes, and Henderson shouldn't be in the conversation for SF minutes.

PG = Dame, CJ, 3rd
SG = Henderson, CJ, Crabbe
SF = Aminu, Harkless, Crabbe

Until Harkless proves otherwise Crabbe is the only guy that can swing between the two wing positions. Henderson & Aminu should each get roughly 30m at their positions. That leaves roughly 40m for Crabbe, Harkless, and CJ at SG/SF. With CJ primarily being our back-up "PG", I'd slot him at about 10m of actual SG minutes. That gives Crabbe ~10m at SG and leaves 20m at SF that can be doled out to Harkless/Crabbe/project depending on who deserves the minutes.
 
The Warriors are going to miss Alvin Gentry on their bench coaching..Kerr already admitted that.
 
blue9 said:
Aminu shouldn't be in the conversation for SG minutes, and Henderson shouldn't be in the conversation for SF minutes.

PG = Dame, CJ, 3rd
SG = Henderson, CJ, Crabbe
SF = Aminu, Harkless, Crabbe

Until Harkless proves otherwise Crabbe is the only guy that can swing between the two wing positions. Henderson & Aminu should each get roughly 30m at their positions. That leaves roughly 40m for Crabbe, Harkless, and CJ at SG/SF. With CJ primarily being our back-up "PG", I'd slot him at about 10m of actual SG minutes. That gives Crabbe ~10m at SG and leaves 20m at SF that can be doled out to Harkless/Crabbe/project depending on who deserves the minutes.
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I'd much rather see:

PG = Dame, CJ, Frazier
SG = Crabbe, CJ, Henderson
SF = Aminu, Harkless

Henderson's not part of the future (and as long as his hip is hurting, he's not even part of the present). Crabbe is a tad undersized for the 3, but he's perfect for the 2. As for the 3, I could see Aminu/Harkless being a perfect platoon for all 48 minutes.
 
Crabbe > Henderson.

Better shooter
Longer defender
Knows the system
Cheaper going forward
Younger

Hendo's injury was a blessing in disguise.
 
It'd be great if the two of you are right. But I think we're selling short Henderson's influence as a vet. I think when you have such a young team it's very helpful to have a couple of vets that can help keep an even keel. Too many young, inexperienced players on the court at the same time might not be best for their learning and development.

At this point (if/when Henderson is healthy) he's the only starting caliber SG we have. If Crabbe can EARN the starting spot, that'd be great. But I certainly wouldn't just hand it to him.
 
Henderson and Cliff Alexander are going to add to the depth of this team..Henderson can slash and dunk with the best of them
 
B-Roy said:
Crabbe > Henderson.

Better shooter
Longer defender
Knows the system
Cheaper going forward
Younger

Hendo's injury was a blessing in disguise.
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Man I wish Hendo were actually Andre Miller, or that we could trade him for Dre. Then you'd have two ancient assistant player-coaches on the team who could mentor our young guards and young centers/forwards.
 
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blue9 said:
It'd be great if the two of you are right. But I think we're selling short Henderson's influence as a vet. I think when you have such a young team it's very helpful to have a couple of vets that can help keep an even keel. Too many young, inexperienced players on the court at the same time might not be best for their learning and development.

At this point (if/when Henderson is healthy) he's the only starting caliber SG we have. If Crabbe can EARN the starting spot, that'd be great. But I certainly wouldn't just hand it to him.
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He's pretty much earning it right now.
 
B-Roy said:
He's pretty much earning it right now.
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Not in my eyes. If he outplays him, in a bench role, during real games, then he'll have earned it. Of course, if Henderson isn't healthy then Crabbe could very well end up the starter because of that - and if he proves capable then he can keep the position.
 
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Allen Crabbe. He's a smooth athlete who seems to be very gifted pulling up off the dribble and reading screens. He was 7-8 on field goals 20 feet or beyond, and made all 5 of his 3 point shots, with the exception of a 56-footer he took at the end the 2nd quarter. He is a great complementary piece alongside the shifty, powerful Damian Lillard, who went 3-18 tonight from the field in 28 minutes.

Lillard can make his living on the drive against any defense, and the newly installed kick-out option of Crabbe enhances his effectiveness.

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Tim Frazier. He played great defense and logged a couple of steals, most notably picking Steph Curry in the first half and taking it coast to coast for an assist to the hot shooting Crabbe. He came in the game for Lillard and C.J. McCollum, logging 6 assists in 20 minutes. Frazier bolsters Portlands depth in a strong guard rotation.

C.J. McCollum. C.J. was aggressive throughout the game, seeing a game-high 28 minutes for the Blazers and scoring 19 points, just shy of a 50% clip. McCollum and Crabbe are young scorers who bookend Lillard's premiere offense. C.J. can create his own shot, and will be experimenting under Stotts as Portland's back up point guard. Look for him to take a bigger role this season as their primary 3rd guard. The Blazers went on a 11-3 while McCollum ran the point.

Portland's Bigs. They're long and physical. Ed Davis had 7 rebounds in 10 minutes. Meyers Leonard is a very mobile center, and should play well with their guards. Portland may have lost Aldridge, but they're certainly not lacking in their versatility and ability to fill up the lane. They did a good job gang rebounding, and kept the pace of the game in Portland's control. Stotts understands the strengths and weaknesses of this Blazers team, and used his assortment of size to capitalize the game plan and bruise the paint.
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and another tasty tidbit:
But at this point, Barnes does not look like a player who should earn max money. I watched Pat Connaughton of Notre Damme smoke him all the way to the rim for a quick lay-in. Barnes finished 2-6 and managed to edge out in the plus category, but overall stuck to his invisible man routine.
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blue9 said:
Not in my eyes. If he outplays him, in a bench role, during real games, then he'll have earned it. Of course, if Henderson isn't healthy then Crabbe could very well end up the starter because of that - and if he proves capable then he can keep the position.
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So what exactly has Henderson done to earn his starting spot? Having incumbents on a young rebuilding team is just stupid in my eyes. The Wolves let Zach Lavine earn his starting spot in practice/preseason against Kevin Martin and he did earn. That should be what we do with Crabbe, and he's earning it so far.
 
Henderson is not very old in NBA years...he's a great guy to have on the team. I think he's 27..Batum's age.
 
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