Was the Batum for Vonleh/Henderson trade the best deal in the NBA this summer?

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KingSpeed said:
For us, that is. I think it was.
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As in, of all the deals done by all the teams, did we fleece the Hornets worse than anybody else? Very possibly...I'd have to look back at a list of transactions.

You should post that, since it's your thread after all.
 
Vonleh is gonna be the new guy, where if he doesn't pan out, will be the new "Batum".. Ironically.

"Just wait... just wait."

"God, I knew he was gonna suck the whole time"

etc. etc. etc.

Some may argue that was LMA.
 
Lets wait until we are half-way through the season. So far, its looking really good with just Vonleh
 
Strenuus said:
Vonleh is gonna be the new guy, where if he doesn't pan out, will be the new "Batum".. Ironically.

"Just wait... just wait."

"God, I knew he was gonna suck the whole time"

etc. etc. etc.

Some may argue that was LMA.
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I have no idea what you're talking about,
 
KingSpeed said:
I have no idea what you're talking about,
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He'll be the new guy where he has all the potential in the world, and if he doesn't live up to it... Batum always had "potential" but was inconsistent. Some people "saw it the whole time" that he'd be a bust.

'bout as best as I can explain it.

Polarizing may be the best word.
 
I think that trade gets competition from the Harkless "trade" though. I love the Vonleh trade, but we paid nothing for Harkless, who I think has similar upside.
 
Strenuus said:
He'll be the new guy where he has all the potential in the world, and if he doesn't live up to it... Batum always had "potential" but was inconsistent. Some people "saw it the whole time" that he'd be a bust.

'bout as best as I can explain it.

Polarizing may be the best word.
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Batum had a very unique skill set, athleticism, attitude, and demenor. Not all necessarily positive. I don't see any strong similarities between him and Vonleh. Could just as easily compare any of half the Blazers on our roster to Batum.
 
Philly made the best trade of the offseason. Potentially two or three lottery picks and Stauskas just for one year of Jason Thompsons not much overpaid contract.

Houston acquiring Ty Lawson is up there but with his DUI has potential to backfire.

Our trade is right there although I expect it to look like a wash this season and spectacular a few years from now. Almost as good as trading Gerald Wallace to the Nets.
 
The Spurs signing LaMarcus Aldridge was the best deal in the NBA this summer.
 
Draco said:
Batum had a very unique skill set, athleticism, attitude, and demenor. Not all necessarily positive. I don't see any strong similarities between him and Vonleh. Could just as easily compare any of half the Blazers on our roster to Batum.
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I'm not saying literally they are the same player, I'm just saying that he will be the next polarizing player. There were people who LOVED batum, and people who HATED batum. I think that is what Vonleh could become to FANS.
 
Strenuus said:
I'm not saying literally they are the same player, I'm just saying that he will be the next polarizing player. There were people who LOVED batum, and people who HATED batum. I think that is what Vonleh could become to FANS.
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Sure that "could" happen. But again I think you could say the same thing about half the players on our roster.

Vonleh was a top 10 lottery pick. Nic was an end of the first round project expected to not make the team. Very different initial expectations.
 
Draco said:
Sure that "could" happen. But again I think you could say the same thing about half the players on our roster.
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Really looks like you're arguing just to argue.

The initial statement is that he is the guy who best exemplifies Batum's "so much talent, if he can just put it all together" reputation. I tend to disagree, simply because I believe he will tap into that talent and actually perform to the level most believe he can.

But I can certainly understand where Strenuus is coming from. Looking at our roster, I see Harkless as most likely to end up as that guy, especially considering what has been written about him so far. I think he will tease and tantalize us with his talent, but never quite become the starting-caliber SF we need.
 
Draco said:
Sure that "could" happen. But again I think you could say the same thing about half the players on our roster.

Vonleh was a top 10 lottery pick. Nic was an end of the first round project expected to not make the team. Very different initial expectations.
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Which would make him just as polarizing. That's my point. I'm looking at the trajectory, not the starting point.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Really looks like you're arguing just to argue.

The initial statement is that he is the guy who best exemplifies Batum's "so much talent, if he can just put it all together" reputation. I tend to disagree, simply because I believe he will tap into that talent and actually perform to the level most believe he can.

But I can certainly understand where Strenuus is coming from. Looking at our roster, I see Harkless as most likely to end up as that guy, especially considering what has been written about him so far. I think he will tease and tantalize us with his talent, but never quite become the starting-caliber SF we need.
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I see where you're coming from with that. I don't see Harkless as that guy more than Vonleh, but I can see where you're coming from.


Oh wait, we're supposed to argue.

YOU DO NOT WANT TO MAKE AN ENEMY OUT OF ME - Stepehen A. Smith
 
I'm stoked about this kid at his age..he's on a great contract, and he's going to be a beast on the court. It's just great to see the young guys in games for a change instead of 5 guys playing huge minutes
 
riverman said:
I'm stoked about this kid at his age..he's on a great contract, and he's going to be a beast on the court. It's just great to see the young guys in games for a change instead of 5 guys playing huge minutes
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Oh lord, don't jinx it.

Stotts has got a dartboard in the back and he's got the names of everyone but Dame on there, and 4 darts... whoever the darts land on will play 37+ minutes a game. :MARIS61:
 
Strenuus said:
I see where you're coming from with that. I don't see Harkless as that guy more than Vonleh, but I can see where you're coming from.


Oh wait, we're supposed to argue.

YOU DO NOT WANT TO MAKE AN ENEMY OUT OF ME - Stepehen A. Smith
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No, YOU DON'T GET IT! You think that some people are going to hate Vonleh, bout that won't happen because he is going to be TEH BESTEST PF IN THE LEAGUE! **Personal attack deleted by moderator**
 
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