Washington Wizards center Jason Collins reveals he is gay

[3RA1N1AC]

Matt: 19:4-5

[Jesus speaking] "Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female [no other combinations listed], Therefore a mand shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh [no other combinations listed]."

Yeah no

 

[Further]

Technically, if CB eats shellfish he isn't following the teachings in the bible either. Literal interpretation is tricky place to tread, especially Leviticus.

How about a beard?

 

[jlprk]

We need some quotes to counter these stupid religious verses. Anyone got the script from that great he-man movie, Jason and the Argonauts?

 

[Further]

One fish, two fish, red fish, blue fish

 

[VanillaGorilla]

If he gets fired for expressing his beliefs, then he's absolutely getting bullied.

No he's not.

 

[ppilot]

Old Testament vs. New Testament (thats why we follow jesus)

Jesus broke all the old testament rules so that we dont have to follow them... lot of examples i can get into

Except the Old Testament is where almost all the basis for what for what is considered sin and evidence against homosexuality. I don't disagree with your point though.

 

[Reep]

Technically, if CB eats shellfish he isn't following the teachings in the bible either. Literal interpretation is tricky place to tread, especially Leviticus.

You guys really need the read the Bible before posting. Acts 10: 9-

 

[huevonkiller]

One fish, two fish, red fish, blue fish

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[jlprk]

What was that great quote from Jason as he spread his legs from under his ancient Greek miniskirt and slew the enemy's monstrous snake?

 

[huevonkiller]

ESPN has really strict standards for twitter, they can fire anyone they want as well.

 

[ppilot]

You guys really need the read the Bible before posting. Acts 10: 9-

I know what you are referencing but again the new testament says almost nothing about Homosexuality besides Paul's brief reference and Jesus's quote about marriage.

Again.....I understand the differences between the New and Old Testament and how they are applied, but again almost every single anti-gay bible reference used comes from the Old testament.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

I get following Christ, he seems like a cool dude.

He certainly never mentioned being gay as a sin though, not sure why a christian would think that

 

[Sedatedfork]

Not even a little, lol...

Are you saying size does matter?

 

[OSUBlazerfan]

I know what you are referencing but again the new testament says almost nothing about Homosexuality besides Paul's brief reference and Jesus's quote about marriage.

Again.....I understand the differences between the New and Old Testament and how they are applied, but again almost every single anti-gay bible reference used comes from the Old testament.

Then the one referencing evidence from old testament is not very smart. I'll call them out too. Theres a lot of crazy things in old testament. Like a girl is basically exiled from society while on her period

 

[ppilot]

Then the one referencing evidence from old testament is not very smart. I'll call them out too. Theres a lot of crazy things in old testament. Like a girl is basically exiled from society while on her period

Yeah one interesting aspects of attending a catholic university (though I didn't think so at the time) was taking biblical history and traditions classes. Absolutely fascinating to learn about the context of the bible and its authors.

 

[Natebishop3]

No, I didn't. Broussard did. Any more than you're saying that it's okay to bully Christians because they're Christians.

When did I say that? I said Broussard should be fired for saying some stupid shit while representing his company.

And if you honestly believe that it's okay to oppress gay people because it's in your religion, then A) you weren't paying attention to what Jesus said, and B) you're trying to justify your own fear and hatred by saying it's in the Bible. Nobody is bullying Christians for being Christian because not all Christians have a problem with gay people. The Christians that are bullying gay people for being gay absolutely deserve to get bullied back.

"But it's okay for me to hate and oppress these people that I've never met because it's written somewhere in a book."

How is that any different than:

"But it's okay for me to hate and oppress Jews because it's what Hitler told me to do."

 

[Sedatedfork]

How is that any different than:

"But it's okay for me to hate and oppress Jews because it's what Hitler told me to do."

Well, for one, Hitler was real.... I keed, I keed

 

[BlazerWookee]

When did I say that? I said Broussard should be fired for saying some stupid shit while representing his company.

And if you honestly believe that it's okay to oppress gay people because it's in your religion, then A) you weren't paying attention to what Jesus said, and B) you're trying to justify your own fear and hatred by saying it's in the Bible. Nobody is bullying Christians for being Christian because not all Christians have a problem with gay people. The Christians that are bullying gay people for being gay absolutely deserve to get bullied back.

"But it's okay for me to hate and oppress these people that I've never met because it's written somewhere in a book."

How is that any different than:

"But it's okay for me to hate and oppress Jews because it's what Hitler told me to do."

You didn't. Nor did I say what you said I said. Nowhere did I say it was okay to bully anybody. My intent was to point out that there's a double-standard in place now, where it's okay to bully people for their beliefs if those beliefs happen to be Judeo-Christian in nature, and that I find that double-standard appalling.

 

[Natebishop3]

You didn't. Nor did I say what you said I said. Nowhere did I say it was okay to bully anybody. My intended point was that there's a double-standard in place now, where it's okay to bully people for their beliefs if those beliefs happen to be Judeo-Christian in nature, and that I find it appalling.

But when those beliefs are wrong, it's bullshit to stand behind a religion. I think it's wrong to make fun of/or bully Christians for believing in god or the bible, or whatever.... but when Christians are essentially trying to force those beliefs on people by enacting legislation that makes it illegal for gay people to get married, that's when they deserve to get shit for it.

You can believe whatever you want. You can hate gays. You can think they shouldn't get married, but when people start voting to make laws that treat one human differently than another, simply because it's "in their religion", that's when I call bullshit.

And in the case of Chris Broussard, he works for one of the largest corporations in the world. Whatever he says will in one way or another represent Disney/ESPN. If he says something that's controversial, he has to accept that ESPN might fire him. Christian or not, that goes with the job. Take it or leave it.

 

[Further]

You didn't. Nor did I say what you said I said. Nowhere did I say it was okay to bully anybody. My intent was to point out that there's a double-standard in place now, where it's okay to bully people for their beliefs if those beliefs happen to be Judeo-Christian in nature, and that I find that double-standard appalling.

I think you're mixing up beliefs that happen to be Judeo-Christian with beliefs that happen to be oppressing. We find problem with the sentiment not because it is Religious or Christian, but because it is intolerant and hateful.

 

[MARIS61]

I was going to post my surprise that nobody had come out in sports decades earlier, since most sports originated in sexually liberal/tolerant societies, but after reading the medieval opinions in this thread...

 

[The Dude]

Annnnnnnnd ESPN will fire him shortly. What a moron. That's his opinion, and he's welcome to it, but when he's representing such a huge corporate machine as Disney (ESPN), he will shortly find out that they do not enjoy being at the center of a huge PR disaster. Bye bye Chris.

It does say that in the Bible though, and he was just giving his honest answer to the question posed.

 

[The Dude]

IMO Christians should look to Christ's thoughts on homosexuality, if he had any

Leviticus 18:22
"Do not practice homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman. It is a detestable sin."

Leviticus 20:13
"If a man practices homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman, both men have committed a detestable act. They must both be put to death, for they are guilty of a capital offense."

1 Timothy 1:8-10
Now we know that the law is good, if one uses it lawfully, understanding this, that the law is not laid down for the just but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who strike their fathers and mothers, for murderers, the sexually immoral, men who practice homosexuality, enslavers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine

1 Corinthians 6:9-11
Don't you realize that those who do wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Don't fool yourselves. Those who indulge in sexual sin, or who worship idols, or commit adultery, or are male prostitutes, or practice homosexuality, or are thieves, or greedy people, or drunkards, or are abusive, or cheat people-none of these will inherit the Kingdom of God. Some of you were once like that. But you were cleansed; you were made holy; you were made right with God by calling on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

 

[Natebishop3]

It does say that in the Bible though, and he was just giving his honest answer to the question posed.

It doesn't matter. I'm not saying he's not entitled to his opinion on the matter, I'm saying that he was representing ESPN and he was publicly voicing a very unpopular opinion, which will most likely cost him his job.

 

[jlprk]

There's only one way to settle this. Let's all enter a dark theater together and watch "Jason and the Argonauts." And may the best man win.

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[MARIS61]

What was that great quote from Jason as he spread his legs from under his ancient Greek miniskirt and slew the enemy's monstrous snake?

Something about the gods are cruel, man will evolve to live without them.

 

[Shooter]

I've never quite understood why some Christians feel the need to apply Christian doctrine to those who choose not to follow it, and to do so in a vehement, public manner.

You mean in the same kind of vehement, public manner that many people in the media enthusiastically support homosexuality?

 

[Shooter]

Broussard gave his opinion as to whether Collins can be a Christian if he's living a lifestyle that is sinful. As a Christian, I think Broussard is off the mark in his theology . . .

How so?

 

[BBert]

Or scriptural. The quote that Broussard is referring to is from Matthew 7:15-23 ...



It relates to false prophets. As far as I know, Collins wasn't prophesying to anyone.

I always thought that quote applied to televangelists.

 

[BBert]

Of course, there would be much more validity to his stance if he had previously denounced the debaucherous lifestyle commonly enjoyed and celebrated by nearly every other NBA athlete...

QTF.