Way too early trade suggestions (8 Viewers)

[SharpesTriumph]

I still can't see Giannis and Deni meshing well. Both are way too ball dominant and both live off of dribble-drives into the paint

I think they'd mesh great. Deni can play off ball very well with his shooting, passing, and as a secondary creator. Both defend well. Having poor defensive players paired together or poor offensive players is an issue. But with Deni+Giannis both guys contribute a lot on both sides of the floor. Totally different than the DameCJ duo where they had identical defensive weaknesses. Or trying to pair Aminu bad offense with Ed Davis. Yes you'd probably want to stagger all of Deni/Giannis minutes.

Also - Giannis has only played 70 games once in the last 7 years. Yeah makes me a bit concerned of him aging into his mid 30's on a supermax while giving up all those assets to acquire him. But that likely gives some more weeks of the season we only see one of them.

So overall I have almost zero concerns of Giannis and Deni co-existing. Deni might not be able to put up the scoring stats he is this season - but the goal should be to contend, not put up individual stats.

 

[Cugel]

The problem is Giannis wants to be in a big market. You trade for him now and he could just decide to walk. I dont think POR should trade for him or any of those picks unless it is for a star caliber player. No KAT, no Bridges bullshit. Those are mids. If Joe is parting with the Dame picks then it has to be for a young star that fits the timeline. Forget Dame starting on a championship team. It ain't gonna happen. He can come off the bench.

 

[blazerfan11]

Also: remember how "well" Dame and Giannis worked?

Ask yourself "would Sam Presti do this?" And if the answer is no (and it is) then you shouldn't do it.

Two first-round-and-out playoffs.

 

[Fitz303]

Two first-round-and-out playoffs.

While factual, it does leave out some context. The first year, Giannis missed the playoffs, and Dame missed 2 games as well. The 2nd year, Dame tore his Achilles after 2 games, and they lost to the eventual EC champions.

You can say the move isn't worth the injury risk, but Dame and Giannis didnt fail because they couldn't play together. Oh yeah, they also had Doc Rivers. So there's that.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

The problem is Giannis wants to be in a big market. You trade for him now and he could just decide to walk. I dont think POR should trade for him or any of those picks unless it is for a star caliber player. No KAT, no Bridges bullshit. Those are mids. If Joe is parting with the Dame picks then it has to be for a young star that fits the timeline. Forget Dame starting on a championship team. It ain't gonna happen. He can come off the bench.

Not sure where you get this idea from. Dude has been loyal to stay in Milwaukee - I sure wouldn't call that a big market.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Here is ESPN article on 11 teams best ability to trade for Giannis - including the Blazers;

"

NBA trade deadline: What should the Bucks do with Giannis?

As the Bucks open trade talks for Giannis Antetokounmpo, which teams have the players, draft picks and contracts to get a deal done?

www.espn.com

Portland Trail Blazers​

Deal difficulty: 4/10. Portland has young players and the Bucks' own 2029 pick to use in deals. But would gutting a promising young roster be worth a short-term contention window -- and a Damian Lillard-Antetokounmpo reunion?

Remember the 2023 trade that sent Lillard to the Bucks? The draft picks that Milwaukee sent to Portland included two years of pick swaps (2028 and 2030) and its own unprotected first in 2029. (After getting waived by Milwaukee in July, Lillard is now back on the Trail Blazers as he rehabs a torn Achilles.)

Milwaukee would most certainly ask for Deni Avdija, Toumani Camara or Shaedon Sharpe. Avdija is putting up All-Star numbers on one of the best non-rookie contracts. Camara signed an extension before the regular season and is not available. Sharpe signed a rookie extension and has a poison pill restriction, making it difficult to trade him.

Apron status: $7.9 million below the first apron (hard capped)

Draft assets:

• 2028 and 2030 first-round swaps with Milwaukee
• 2028 first-round pick (via Orlando)
• 2029 first-round picks (most and least favorable of own, Boston and Milwaukee)

Contracts:

• Restrictions: Toumani Camara ($2.2 million, UFA 2030, signing April 19), Shaedon Sharpe ($10.7 million UFA 2030, poison pill), Damian Lillard ($14.1 million, player option 2027, no trade clause)
• Free agents: Robert Williams ($13.3 million, UFA 2026), Matisse Thybulle ($11.5 million, UFA 2026), Blake Wesley ($2.3 million, UFA 2026), Duop Reath ($2.2 million, RFA 2026), Rayan Rupert ($2.2 million, RFA 2026). Note: Williams has $1.7 million in unlikely bonuses. Thybulle has a trade bonus.
• Rookie scale contracts: Scoot Henderson ($10.7 million, UFA 2027), Donovan Clingan ($7.2 million, RFA 2028), Kris Murray ($3.1 million, RFA 2027), Yang Hansen ($4.4 million, RFA 2029)
• Notable: Jrue Holiday ($32.4 million, player option 2027), Jerami Grant ($32 million, player option 2027), Deni Avdija ($14.4 million, UFA 2028)

"

Kind of confusing how they rank it but seems 1/10 would have the best Giannis trade package and 10/10 would have a bad one. Here are the teams they rank better than Portland;

2/10 Pistons
2/10 Warriors
3/10 Raptors
But ESPN acknowledges the Pistons likely hold off on a Giannis trade since their group is currently #1 in the East.

Most of the glamour markets or big name teams just don't have the assets or contracts to make a trade.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Sharpe + the trove of picks

If I had to guess - NY/Miami can’t come close to
this

 

[julius]

It can both be true that Giannis would be a great addition to the roster and better than anyone who is currently on it and arguably better than anyone who has ever been a Blazer and also be of the mindset that it really depends on who they traded for him and who they surrounded around him.

There's a reason it so rarely works out for teams to make massive trades like this. Especially one that takes up almost a third of the salary cap.

For what it realistically would take (the Bucks would start with Shaedon and the picks), the Bucks would rightfully want to gut this team.

Dame + Giannis + Deni with table scraps does not win you a title.

There is no way the Bucks wouldn't want Shaedon, Scoot, Clingan and the picks (Tou can't be, iirc, traded until this off season) in addition to Jerami.

And of they *didn't* want Jerami, then there is no chance they wouldn't demand Toumani to be included.

If I'm the bucks, and I do this trade now this is what I'd offer.

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Grant, Sharpe, Scoot, Clingan, Williams, Thybulle + 28 swap, 29 outright and 30 swap, for

Giannis and his brother, Trent Jr and Kuzma.

Gives the Bucks a chance to reboot things, save $ and get their picks back.

Realistically, that's the kind of trade the Bucks will and should go after.

That trade, however, decimates the Blazers.

It leaves them with a lot of nothing and only adds one shooter (Trent) who is kind of an overrated shooter. Doesn't actually make Portland a better team IMHO. Yeah, their top is better, but what's to stop teams from collapsing or sending doubles? No outside shooting and no bench = mediocre.

 

[Cugel]

Not sure where you get this idea from. Dude has been loyal to stay in Milwaukee - I sure wouldn't call that a big market.

recent comments about wanting to be in NY

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

It can both be true that Giannis would be a great addition to the roster and better than anyone who is currently on it and arguably better than anyone who has ever been a Blazer and also be of the mindset that it really depends on who they traded for him and who they surrounded around him.

There's a reason it so rarely works out for teams to make massive trades like this. Especially one that takes up almost a third of the salary cap.

For what it realistically would take (the Bucks would start with Shaedon and the picks), the Bucks would rightfully want to gut this team.

Dame + Giannis + Deni with table scraps does not win you a title.

There is no way the Bucks wouldn't want Shaedon, Scoot, Clingan and the picks (Tou can't be, iirc, traded until this off season) in addition to Jerami.

And of they *didn't* want Jerami, then there is no chance they wouldn't demand Toumani to be included.

If I'm the bucks, and I do this trade now this is what I'd offer.

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Grant, Sharpe, Scoot, Clingan, Williams, Thybulle + 28 swap, 29 outright and 30 swap, for

Giannis and his brother, Trent Jr and Kuzma.

Gives the Bucks a chance to reboot things, save $ and get their picks back.

Realistically, that's the kind of trade the Bucks will and should go after.

That trade, however, decimates the Blazers.

It leaves them with a lot of nothing and only adds one shooter (Trent) who is kind of an overrated shooter. Doesn't actually make Portland a better team IMHO. Yeah, their top is better, but what's to stop teams from collapsing or sending doubles? No outside shooting and no bench = mediocre.

I wouldn't do the trade you stated, and neither should the Blazers.

Picks, Jerami, Scoot? Where do I sign up? Maybe even someone else if we get another guy that can play in our rotation now.

I dont think the bucks get anywhere near what you listed.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Remember this?

Haynes: Trail Blazers Were “Secret Team” for Giannis Antetokounmpo Before Supermax

The NBA MVP and Damian Lillard had plans to work out together in the off-season, and might have been open to more.

www.blazersedge.com

2020

 

[1 Eye Jack]

Everyone keeps talking about Dame and Giannis friendship but we also have Jrue assuming he stays. Listen having a legit opportunity to land top 5 player in league comes around once or twice in a lifetime. You have to at least consider it and I truly believe if we want him and he’s willing to come here then the ball is in our court to get him. Almost impossible to rebuild for the Bucks without their own draft picks. That’s huge leverage, so do I do a deal I’m not sure but I’m also not opposed for a championship window as long as we keep a good chunk of our young core. We have Toumani, Scoot, Sharpe, Clingan, Deni, YH. My guess is no way Deni goes and the picks so most likely Scoot or Sharpe or even Clingan and maybe YH plus picks. I’m partial to keeping Sharpe but would at least consider if you are getting Giannis.

Imperative that if we make the trade we have guarantee from Giannis that he’s on board and would resign with us. Hes loyal so I trust him

Exciting times not often we have a shot at future hall of famer in his prime. Whether we get him or not gets the blood flowing.

Dame/Jrue
Sharpe/Jrue/
Deni/Tou
Giannis/Tou
Clingan/ YH

That team competes with any team in the league and you’re in championship window for at least 2 years maybe longer.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

Warriors would maybe offer Butler, Kuminga, Moody, four 1sts for Portis, Kuzma and Giannis?

Bucks incentive is moving Butler in the offseason but it would depend on his rehab and i'm not sure how much you'll get for him.

Not even sure Warriors would give up four 1sts. Maybe. Their hope would be those last two picks end up sucking because Curry is old.

 

[1 Eye Jack]

Warriors would maybe offer Butler, Kuminga, Moody, four 1sts for Portis, Kuzma and Giannis?

Bucks incentive is moving Butler in the offseason but it would depend on his rehab and i'm not sure how much you'll get for him.

Not even sure Warriors would give up four 1sts. Maybe. Their hope would be those last two picks end up sucking because Curry is old.

I see no value in Butler coming off that injury. If Warriors did that deal they would be salvaging their next 10 years for a 3 year window assuming Curry and Giannis can stay healthy

 

[julius]

I wouldn't do the trade you stated, and neither should the Blazers.

Picks, Jerami, Scoot? Where do I sign up? Maybe even someone else if we get another guy that can play in our rotation now.

I dont think the bucks get anywhere near what you listed.

Oh, I wouldn't either. Nor do I think they will get that. Just saying that's what they should aim for

 

[SharpesTriumph]

It can both be true that Giannis would be a great addition to the roster and better than anyone who is currently on it and arguably better than anyone who has ever been a Blazer and also be of the mindset that it really depends on who they traded for him and who they surrounded around him.

There's a reason it so rarely works out for teams to make massive trades like this. Especially one that takes up almost a third of the salary cap.

For what it realistically would take (the Bucks would start with Shaedon and the picks), the Bucks would rightfully want to gut this team.

Dame + Giannis + Deni with table scraps does not win you a title.

There is no way the Bucks wouldn't want Shaedon, Scoot, Clingan and the picks (Tou can't be, iirc, traded until this off season) in addition to Jerami.

And of they *didn't* want Jerami, then there is no chance they wouldn't demand Toumani to be included.

If I'm the bucks, and I do this trade now this is what I'd offer.

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Grant, Sharpe, Scoot, Clingan, Williams, Thybulle + 28 swap, 29 outright and 30 swap, for

Giannis and his brother, Trent Jr and Kuzma.

Gives the Bucks a chance to reboot things, save $ and get their picks back.

Realistically, that's the kind of trade the Bucks will and should go after.

That trade, however, decimates the Blazers.

It leaves them with a lot of nothing and only adds one shooter (Trent) who is kind of an overrated shooter. Doesn't actually make Portland a better team IMHO. Yeah, their top is better, but what's to stop teams from collapsing or sending doubles? No outside shooting and no bench = mediocre.

Of course the Bucks would love Scoot, Sharpe, Clingan and all their picks back. But no team is offering the Bucks that package. If they hold out for that type of package then Giannis isn't really available .

5 years ago when Giannis was in his 20s maybe. Thats why the Doncic trade was insane for the Mavs.

Blazers don't need to give the Bucks an offer they love. They just need to offer more than any other team can offer. Controlling 3 years of Bucks picks (when no other team even fully controls 1) is an advantage only Portland has. How are the Knicks even competing with an offer with just ONE of Scoot/Sharpe/Clingan plus all 3 years of picks?

 

[blazerkor]

This talk is crazy to me. The Dame to the Bucks trade wasn't just a bust for the Bucks because Dame ended up seriously hurt, it was a bust before that because Giannis couldn't stay healthy but we want to try it out here??? Three and a half years later?

Trade our vets. The role Rob fills is the only one that needs replaced and it actually needs to be replaced with a young switchable big that can consistently split time at the 5 with Clingan, no resting on the second night of back to backs or minutes restrictions. Do that and try to get other young players that we can continue to build our bench with.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

I wouldn't do the trade you stated, and neither should the Blazers.

Picks, Jerami, Scoot? Where do I sign up? Maybe even someone else if we get another guy that can play in our rotation now.

I dont think the bucks get anywhere near what you listed.

Yeah, the Bucks aren't getting an Anthony Davis to the Lakers haul like the Pelicans got. The Bucks missed their chance to trade Giannis for maximum value.

Three years of picks, one top prospect (Sharpe OR Scoot) one flyer like Yang, thats the best the Bucks are doing. Not saying the Blazers are getting Giannis as very possible he ends up elsewhere but he's not going for some godfather haul of a package like some posters are saying the Bucks would like.

I'd also like to have a gold dragon in my living room. There's this thing called reality.

 

[1 Eye Jack]

This talk is crazy to me. The Dame to the Bucks trade wasn't just a bust for the Bucks because Dame ended up seriously hurt, it was a bust before that because Giannis couldn't stay healthy but we want to try it out here??? Three and a half years later?

Trade our vets. The role Rob fills is the only one that needs replaced and it actually needs to be replaced with a young switchable big that can consistently split time at the 5 with Clingan, no resting on the second night of back to backs or minutes restrictions. Do that and try to get other young players that we can continue to build our bench with.

So you wouldnt consider a player that offensively and defensively is top 2-3 player in the entire league? He instantly makes you a contender, forget playing with Dame he’s most likely playing with Deni and whatever pieces we don’t have to give up.

How ironic would it be if we ended up with Jrue, Dame and Giannis?

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Oh, I wouldn't either. Nor do I think they will get that. Just saying that's what they should aim for

That kind of like telling a grade schooler they can be president some day.

I mean sure its technically true - but it really has no bearing at all on what will happen.

I mean I can also aim to win the powerball lottery when I buy a $2 ticket.

 

[42N8Bounce]

When offering players to Milwaukee for Giannis, how would you rank the 'keepability' of each Blazer?

Here are my thoughts:

Untradable	Deni
Untradable	Dame
Would hurt	Clingan
Would hurt	Sharpe
If I must	Camara
If I must	Scoot
bummer	Holiday
bummer	Yang
bummer	Williams III
ok	Cissoko
ok	Love
See ya	Grant
See ya	Thybulle
See ya	Murray
See ya	Wesley
See ya	Reath
See ya	Rupert

The Blazers are in the driver's seat holding the Bucks picks/swaps. No panic. Hold out for a sweetheart deal.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

This talk is crazy to me. The Dame to the Bucks trade wasn't just a bust for the Bucks because Dame ended up seriously hurt, it was a bust before that because Giannis couldn't stay healthy but we want to try it out here??? Three and a half years later?

Trade our vets. The role Rob fills is the only one that needs replaced and it actually needs to be replaced with a young switchable big that can consistently split time at the 5 with Clingan, no resting on the second night of back to backs or minutes restrictions. Do that and try to get other young players that we can continue to build our bench with.

You very well might be right - the Blazers acquiring Giannis has a ton of risk. Kind of reminds me of the Clippers getting Kawhi or the Nets getting Harden. Both teams were massive disappointments.

Still its a chance with real MVP upside that you have to consider. Kawhi also won a title in Toronto, Bucks and Celtics each won titles with Jrue - its certainly possible to make a big trade and it works out.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

When offering players to Milwaukee for Giannis, how would you rank the 'keepability' of each Blazer?

Here are my thoughts:

Untradable	Deni
Untradable	Dame
Would hurt	Clingan
Would hurt	Sharpe
If I must	Camara
If I must	Scoot
bummer	Holiday
bummer	Yang
bummer	Williams III
ok	Cissoko
ok	Love
See ya	Grant
See ya	Thybulle
See ya	Murray
See ya	Wesley
See ya	Reath
See ya	Rupert

The Blazers are in the driver's seat holding the Bucks picks/swaps. No panic. Hold out for a sweetheart deal.

Camara is literally untradable from extension until April. Even if tradable I'd put him above all our players outside Deni. 3+D on a reasonable contract is crucial to a contender as well as Giannis team. All other positions can be more easily filled in a subsequent move.

Scoot I'd like to keep but we have to give up some young pieces and if Bucks value him it makes sense. Scoot has starters in his way he can't effectively share the floor with.
Sharpe I could see Bucks wanting - but in that case then no to Scoot/Clingan.
Clingan doesn't seem like the archetype a rebuilding team would want but if they want to give us Portis we could consider it. Again Bucks need to chose ONE of Scoot/Sharpe/Clingan. I wouldn't give up two of them.
Yang I'm fine giving up but sort of depends how much Bucks value him. If they only credit us with a 2nd rounder then I'd give them that instead and keep him. If they view him like a 1st rounder than sure put him in the deal, similar to Scoot he has an issue with a starter in front of him here.

Holiday doesn't make sense going out to a rebuilding team, if we're keeping Scoot I'm fine sending out Holiday in theory. At his age and contract I doubt he has value in the league so again probably doesn't make sense to send out in a Giannis trade.
Timelord is kind of similar to a lesser degree - I'm fine sending him out but if he's valued like a mediocre 2nd rounder just send that out instead.

 

[Hoopguru]

ongratulations on a successful trade​

Due to Milwaukee being under the cap and choosing to invoke the Cap Room rule, Milwaukee could not go over the cap by more than $100,000 of post-trade Team Salary, which did happen here. Also, Milwaukee met the requirements of the Hard Cap rules of staying under the Tax Threshold plus $4M for adjusted post-trade Team Salary.
Due to Portland being under the cap and choosing to invoke the Cap Room rule, Portland could not go over the cap by more than $100,000 of post-trade Team Salary, which did happen here.
This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.
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Milwaukee Bucks Trade Breakdown

Change in Team Outlook: +1.9 ppg, -1.3 rpg, and -1.1 apg.​

Incoming Players
	Jerami Grant 31 year old, 6-7, 213 lb F from Syracuse 18.8 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 2.5 apg in 29.2 minutes in 2025-2026
	Matisse Thybulle 28 year old, 6-5, 202 lb SF from Washington 5.0 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 0.8 apg in 12.2 minutes in 2025-2026
	Scoot Henderson 21 year old, 6-3, 207 lb G from NBA G League Ignite No games yet played in 2025-2026
	Kris Murray 25 year old, 6-8, 218 lb F from Iowa 6.1 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 1.2 apg in 25.7 minutes in 2025-2026

Outgoing Players
	Giannis Antetokounmpo 31 year old, 6-11, 243 lb F from Filathlitikos Div II Greece (Greece) 28.0 ppg, 10.0 rpg, 5.6 apg in 29.2 minutes in 2025-2026

Portland Trail Blazers Trade Breakdown

Change in Team Outlook: -1.9 ppg, +1.3 rpg, and +1.1 apg.​

Incoming Players
	Giannis Antetokounmpo 31 year old, 6-11, 243 lb F from Filathlitikos Div II Greece (Greece) 28.0 ppg, 10.0 rpg, 5.6 apg in 29.2 minutes in 2025-2026

Outgoing Players
	Jerami Grant 31 year old, 6-7, 213 lb F from Syracuse 18.8 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 2.5 apg in 29.2 minutes in 2025-2026
	Matisse Thybulle 28 year old, 6-5, 202 lb SF from Washington 5.0 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 0.8 apg in 12.2 minutes in 2025-2026
	Scoot Henderson 21 year old, 6-3, 207 lb G from NBA G League Ignite No games yet played in 2025-2026
	Kris Murray 25 year old, 6-8, 218 lb F from Iowa 6.1 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 1.2 apg in 25.7 minutes in 2025-2026

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