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Crazy to see how little Kuminga went for. Couldn't we have done Thybulle and Timelord? I feel like that's a better return for the Warriors.
They wanted a roster spots to convert Spencer. 2-1 they did gives them that. 1-2 does not. Thybulle and Timelord adds 2.5 to their salary this year. Porzingas deal shaves about a million this year, plus the 3ish owed to Hield next season.
 
What about Neil trading for and resigning to a reasonable contract future all star Norm Powell?

Now you are correct the Deni trade has worked out awesome.

My post still stands even with Deni we don't have a great young core. There's no path for this roster to contend soon even with another good move. We're kind of praying Scoot or Sharpe miraculously becomes a star, which just doesn't seem likely.

Personally while I like most the picks we haven't hit on one like teams need to contend. My biggest issue in the Cronin era has been the irrelevant vets we've overpaid massive salaries to.

Interested to see how Cronin looks under Dundon. But if we get a new GM soon I won't be upset either.
Wasn’t an All Star for us. I doubt he would have ever been an All Star if he stayed here.
 
Crazy to see how little Kuminga went for. Couldn't we have done Thybulle and Timelord? I feel like that's a better return for the Warriors.
Yeah on the one hand agree with you - but Kuminga is going to want shots and minutes. Maybe the Blazers just weren't interested in him potentially screwing up team chemistry.
 
might be my imagination but this trade deadline might be the 'aprons-are-poison' deadline. A lot of these trades seem apron related
Yeah there's not only the apron but also the tax teams try to get under. It seems like half the league will be trying to just get under one of those limits at this as well as future trade deadlines.

It's a good way to pick up 2nd rounders if a team has room under the lux tax. Perhaps that was going to be our plan last summer to have that flexibility, but then we ended up signing Dame for the full MLE.
 
Wasn’t an All Star for us. I doubt he would have ever been an All Star if he stayed here.
He was a good player for us, the clippers, and the heat. Kind of at CJ level except better defense. Both of these guys are normally not quite Allstars but very close and above average starters. I'm not real hung up on who actually becomes an all-star, plenty of other years Deni wouldn't have got it like this year.

With Norm I wish we had hung onto him, NAW, or at least got more than a pile of beans when trading him away. It was obviously a stupid trade at the time too.

Certainly not a good use of Blazers asset on the roster. If you give Cronin credit for Deni also need to ding him for the moves that squandered value.
 
Where would you rank that core in the NBA?

While I am excited for some of our youth, honestly it doesn't rank up very high even with teams that have been winning the whole time and not tanking.

Would love to be wrong and Scoot or Sharpe become a star. But Im just not seeing a realistic path to go from here to contend in a long long time
Oklahoma City rebuilt their roster very quickly after losing three superstars. Portland, meanwhile, just limps along year after year, always in the middle of the pack, and never with championship potential.
 
Well, there goes the intrigue. Maybe a waive or two but with Scoot, Blake and Jrue returning, I don't think there's room on this roster for Caleb. Probably cut Rupes and sign Sidy.
 
67 players traded so either you are bad at your job, or you really didn't like any deals. Interesting deadline.
 
We made a solid trade.
We made about as marginal of a trade as we possibly could have. I don't think Vit gets us any wins this season and I don't think he gets us any higher in the lottery. I do like the move for the future if the idea is to build around Deni and go young but if that's the idea I don't see why no vets were moved.
 
We made about as marginal of a trade as we possibly could have. I don't think Vit gets us any wins this season and I don't think he gets us any higher in the lottery. I do like the move for the future if the idea is to build around Deni and go young but if that's the idea I don't see why no vets were moved.

He addressed a significant need (3pt shooting) for minimal assets. We'll see what happens this summer but my guess is they want to see this core around Dame to some degree.
 
I wonder if Cronin spent so much time going after Giannis, that other possible trades fell to the wayside, and didn't get done. If so, Milwaukee got us good. Not as good as we got them, but hey.
 
Well, there goes the intrigue. Maybe a waive or two but with Scoot, Blake and Jrue returning, I don't think there's room on this roster for Caleb. Probably cut Rupes and sign Sidy.
I understand he found it impossible to trade Jrue but now we have 7-8 PGs: Scoot, Wesley, Jrue, Lillard, Deni, Love and Cissoko is also a combo guard who can run point. Krejci also has "experience handling point guard duties". Why didn't he trade Love or Wesley? Aren't we kind of unbalanced? I still think Deni is most effective when acting as a point guard and is our best PG IMO. Will be interesting to see if he can recover completely from his back injury. Maybe Cronin thinks some guys can be traded easier next summer, especially if he can sign Cissoko and Love to contracts and give them more playing time to prove they are legitimate? Isn't that what we say every year though?
 
I wonder if Cronin spent so much time going after Giannis, that other possible trades fell to the wayside, and didn't get done. If so, Milwaukee got us good. Not as good as we got them, but hey.
I don't think he ever went after Giannis. Contracts, age, production made Grant and Jrue untradeable and Cissoko, Wesley and Love haven't played enough to establish any value. Robert Williams? If Cronin's goal is still to get into the playoffs, he couldn't trade him is the only reason I can think of. Unless Robert has expressed a desire to stay and doctors have given an assurance his knees are ok long-term (which I doubt, so he might be the biggest mystery not being traded?).
 
Well, there goes the intrigue. Maybe a waive or two but with Scoot, Blake and Jrue returning, I don't think there's room on this roster for Caleb. Probably cut Rupes and sign Sidy.
Caleb is Dames buddy. I don’t know if he’d be too happy with that move?
 
I understand he found it impossible to trade Jrue but now we have 7-8 PGs: Scoot, Wesley, Jrue, Lillard, Deni, Love and Cissoko is also a combo guard who can run point. Krejci also has "experience handling point guard duties". Why didn't he trade Love or Wesley? Aren't we kind of unbalanced? I still think Deni is most effective when acting as a point guard and is our best PG IMO. Will be interesting to see if he can recover completely from his back injury. Maybe Cronin thinks some guys can be traded easier next summer, especially if he can sign Cissoko and Love to contracts and give them more playing time to prove they are legitimate? Isn't that what we say every year though?
I don't know that he found it impossible to move Jrue. He might have had a number of offers that just weren't up to his liking. We don't ever know much about what was and wasn't out there and which reports were based on real information but right now with the change in ownership we know even less than usual.

The one thing we do know is that this roster doesn't make a lot of sense and at the deadline today has been going in the wrong direction. Either Joe had no sense of urgency because it seems like he never does or this time he had an excuse because he knows his days with the team are about to come to an end. Either way it's frustrating for us as fans.
 
Caleb is Dames buddy. I don’t know if he’d be too happy with that move?
I don't know what move you're talking about. I was saying that I don't see us waiving somebody so we can move Caleb from a two way contract to a regular one because we have so many ball dominant guards.

Don't get me wrong I wouldn't put it past Joe to waive a wing and give us another guard, Joe's really never cared about having a roster that makes sense.
 
We made a solid trade.
I agree it was 'solid' for what it was, in a vacuum.. Trade a seldom-used player with a season ending injury for a back-end-of-rotation player who happens to be pretty elite at shooting three's which just happens to be a major team weakness

but he's not anything close to a needle mover. He's been in the NBA for 4.6 seasons and has 5.9 winshares. Camara has been in the NBA for 2.6 seasons and has 9.2 winshares. Clingan has been in the league for 1.6 seasons and has 8.7 winshares

something else I noticed: in the 4 years before this, Krejci, on average, played in 34.5 games a season. I'm assuming some DNP-CD's but I checked his injury history:

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yikes!.....probably a good thing he is so inexpensive
 

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Win Shares? Not sure that's a good metric for a role player like Vit @wizenheimer
might not be. But I was talking more about impact in the context of some people being disappointed that Blazers didn't do more at the deadline. Krejci's career PER is 10.6 when the league average is 15.0; his career winshare/48 is .079 when the league average is .100. His career BPM is -2.0 when the league average is 0.0. So yeah, he's a role player, and probably not even a average role player. Maybe a 7th or 8th man

I actually expect him to have a bigger impact for Portlamd than his numbers indicate because he does best what Portland does worst
 

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