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Here is Mike Richman (today) saying "Dame has been very clear himself, you don't need to parse anything, just listen to Dame's words. He wants them to trade the pick for win-now help. If they don't do that because they're unwilling to trade Sharpe and they don't get a deal done, are they choosing Shaedon Sharpe and Brandon Miller over Dame? Yeah that's effectively what it would be. So then when you ask yourself is Shaedon Sharpe is off limits, it's the domino effect of making that proclamation. If the dinosaurs in Toronto hold out and say "Sharpe or nothing" then the nothing has real implications for the Blazers."
 
wizenheimer said:
lol...c'mon man...grandiose much?...there's no "record" to set straight. just a bunch of clowns yammering about the meaning of a couple of isolated quotes from weeks ago from a public figure who has dozens and dozens of quotes



there are two types of concrete, and only two types: cracked and gonna crack. I can play the metaphor game too



I get it...sarcasm about anonymous people on the internet. Thing is he was pretty specific about where he was getting it and I have no reason to conclude he's a liar
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Mike Richman agrees with me. :dunno:

Today he said essentially what I just said. I posted the link to that moment above.
 
Natebishop3 said:


Here is Mike Richman (today) saying "Dame has been very clear himself, you don't need to parse anything, just listen to Dame's words. He wants them to trade the pick for win-now help. If they don't do that because they're unwilling to trade Sharpe and they don't get a deal done, are they choosing Shaedon Sharpe and Brandon Miller over Dame? Yeah that's effectively what it would be. So then when you ask yourself is Shaedon Sharpe is off limits, it's the domino effect of making that proclamation. If the dinosaurs in Toronto hold out and say "Sharpe or nothing" then the nothing has real implications for the Blazers."
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But I was told that Cronin has all the leverage and no team would do anything like this.
 
Natebishop3 said:


Here is Mike Richman (today) saying "Dame has been very clear himself, you don't need to parse anything, just listen to Dame's words. He wants them to trade the pick for win-now help. If they don't do that because they're unwilling to trade Sharpe and they don't get a deal done, are they choosing Shaedon Sharpe and Brandon Miller over Dame? Yeah that's effectively what it would be. So then when you ask yourself is Shaedon Sharpe is off limits, it's the domino effect of making that proclamation. If the dinosaurs in Toronto hold out and say "Sharpe or nothing" then the nothing has real implications for the Blazers."
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If Sharpe goes I go. This is getting stupid. Pick 3, Trade Dame for young talent and picks and get the entire organization on the same fucking timeline. PDX Front office is messy AF.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Mike Richman agrees with me. :dunno:

Today he said essentially what I just said. I posted the link to that moment above.
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Which part? The part where he says "I'm just a dude in a basement"

Seriously though I don't believe when he said they are essentially choosing Sharpe and #3 over Dame by not trading them. Even Windhorst mentioned the Blazer can get better while keeping #3. Trading Sharpe is not going to happen and I doubt Dame would want that.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Which part? The part where he says "I'm just a dude in a basement"

Seriously though I don't believe when he said they are essentially choosing Sharpe and #3 over Dame by not trading them. Even Windhurst mentioned the Blazer can get better while keeping #3. Trading Sharpe is not going to happen and I doubt Dame would want that.
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"Dame has been very clear himself, you don't need to parse anything, just listen to Dame's words. He wants them to trade the pick for win-now help."

He is credentialed. He's not just a dude in a basement. He (used to?) work for the Oregonian.
 
I'm more convinced than ever that Charlotte put smoke out that they're taking Scoot so they could see what they'd get in a trade for him.

I think they're taking Miller.

Fuck my life.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Mike Richman agrees with me. :dunno:

Today he said essentially what I just said. I posted the link to that moment above.
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so if the Blazers keep the pick then Dame will be asking for a trade by July and guys like you will be happy

but I don't why you are working so hard to convince us it's going to happen before it actually does.
 
My feeling is everything we are hearing right now regarding who is taking who in a draft is a smoke screen. Furthermore, almost everything we're hearing on the trade front is an idea that has been discussed and discarded.

The NBA Draft can't come soon enough.
 
Natebishop3 said:
"Dame has been very clear himself, you don't need to parse anything, just listen to Dame's words. He wants them to trade the pick for win-now help."

He is credentialed. He's not just a dude in a basement. He (used to?) work for the Oregonian.
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I know he is...but it was still funny that he said it. Nonetheless, he is just guessing like the rest of us.
 
Predator said:
Something like that would be interesting

You could also continue to build out the roster over the next 2 seasons or so with MLE - type guys to solidify the bench unit

I wanted Miller to start for developmental reasons but if you can land OG that would be great for POA defense

I'm not a huge Ayton fan, but if people are sold on him, having 2 players on rookie contracts definitely makes eating that contract more plausible
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It's about time we're one of the teams who start buying low on players. I'm not necessarily in love with Ayton either, but if you can turn Nurk and Little and change into him you do it. Especially if you're keeping #3. He's only 24 years old and averaged 18/10 last season. If you want, you can flip him later.
 
wizenheimer said:
guys like you will be happy
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I was one of a handful of people who was convinced that LMA would leave the Blazers. There was really only several of us and we had predicted it years before it happened. Do you think I was happy that LMA left us holding the bag? Do you think I was thrilled that we got zero compensation for an All-Star that walked out the door? Being happy has nothing to do with it. I didn't even make a big "I told you so" post because it wasn't necessary. I was right and a bunch of other people who were actually really abusive and nasty were wrong.

but I don't why you are working so hard to convince us it's going to happen before it actually does.
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Because.... like the drama with LMA where there were people who were convinced right up until the very last minute that he would come back, there are people on this sub who seem to be willfully ignorant to the situation. Unlike the situation with LMA, Dame has come out and publicly said how he feels.... multiple times. He said them on camera. He has said what he wants. So it boggles my mind that I have to continually argue with people about the ramifications of taking the third pick on Thursday. "Well maybe he changed his mind?" Or it's "Dame loves Portland so he would never leave." Whatever.... they can think what they want, but when someone essentially denies what he said, or misquotes it, that annoys me.

Have you ever seen the movie Don't Look up? I feel like I'm Leonardo DiCaprio and there's a bunch of people who absolutely refuse to acknowledge the meteor that is hurtling towards this franchise. It might miss, yes, but it's still there and we won't know if it will hit until after the draft.
 
AmirIcon said:
It's about time we're one of the teams who start buying low on players. I'm not necessarily in love with Ayton either, but if you can Nurk and Little and change into him you do it. Especially if you're keeping #3.
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Is he a great defender? If he was then sure. But you got to keep the new cap rules in mind after this year. We can't afford
average players making 35 million per
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Is he a great defender? If he was then sure. But you got to keep the new cap rules in mind after this year. We can't afford
average players making 35 million per
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He's definitely better than average. Not a lot of centers were putting up with Ayton did last season while being a #3 or #4 option. If we want to get better with Dame, we have to spend. And if you're not spending on a vet in a trade for #3, you better show him you're actively trying to get better.
 
AmirIcon said:
He's definitely better than average. Not a lot of centers were putting up with Ayton did last season while being a #3 or #4 option. If we want to get better with Dame, we have to spend. And if you're not spending on a vet in a trade for #3, you better show him you're actively trying to get better.
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3 or 4th option on offense. I was talking defense. You said in another thread no to DDR because of his D, but you want to trade for Ayton? DDR comes cheaper and was an all-star last year I believe.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
3 or 4th option on offense. I was talking defense. You said in another thread no to DDR because of his D, but you want to trade for Ayton? DDR comes cheaper and was an all-star last year I believe.
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he was an all-star the last 2 seasons while averaging 26-5-5. His defense isn't good, but it isn't bad either. He's sure as hell better on defense than 'the sieve', aka Ant
 
wizenheimer said:
he was an all-star the last 2 seasons while averaging 26-5-5. His defense isn't good, but it isn't bad either. He's sure as hell better on defense than 'the sieve', aka Ant
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I wonder if Simons would have turned out different if he didn't come up under the Dame/CJ/Stotts school of "what's defense?"
 
Natebishop3 said:
I wonder if Simons would have turned out different if he didn't come up under the Dame/CJ/Stotts school of "what's defense?"
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no, don't think so. I've watch him on defense a lot and he has poor lateral mobility and is slow to react. I think defense is most instinct and effort...but mostly instinct
 
wizenheimer said:
he has poor lateral mobility and is slow to react.
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It's interesting because despite having a very good vertical, the guy hardly ever dunks. It's like he has the image of a good athlete.... but not the actual ability. Maybe that's not the right word. I just thought it was funny when he won the dunk contest and people were like..... who? Because unlike Sharpe, he almost never dunks in a game. At first I thought it was confidence, but it also seems like he lacks the explosiveness to get to the rim.
 
Gronk_Brady said:
When did he say that? Link?
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  • Hornets at 2: "Prevailing thought amongst teams we've spoken with remains that the Hornets will wind up going with Miller. That said, the news that Henderson put in an excellent first workout in Charlotte has led some around the league to, at the very least, poke holes in that assumption."

  • Portland keeping the 3rd Pick and will try 'Threading the Needle' (or the Two Timelines Special): "Barring a team unexpectedly emerging on draft night with an offer they simply can't refuse, sources told ESPN the Trail Blazers are planning on keeping the pick and adding the type of talent to the roster they would be hard pressed to bring to Portland if not through the draft. The team will attempt to thread the needle between being competitive with Damian Lillard at the helm and continuing to build for the future with Shaedon Sharpe, Anfernee Simons and this draft pick"
 
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