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Nikolokolus said:
No team is perfect, but teams that have real title aspirations tend to be average at worst in a few key categories - points in the paint, the ability to defend the paint, and at least average bench production are usually important. The Blazers as currently constructed are anything but a finished product and to declare them as such is the product of emotional thinking.
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Emotional thinking backed by #1 seed in the tough conference. Gotcha.
 
BigGameDamian said:
And again, CJ is no more of a PG than Mo is.
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Maybe not. And he may be as bad at defense, although that would be difficult. But is he as much of a ball hog? Is he going to go one-on-three crazy without a single teammate over half court? I've seen Mo freeze out Damian during Lillard Time. I've seen Mo freeze out Wes when Wes was in the middle of a hot streak. Each time it ended poorly.

I actually don't expect much if anything from CJ this season. Other than Summer League, he's had what, going on a year off from competitive basketball? The issue is probably moot, because I just don't see Stotts taking the ball away from his vet designated scorer Mo, and giving it to CJ.

I have a good imagination though. I imagine CJ, some day, looking a lot like Mo, with a strong mid-range game and better passing to teammates. That's my fantasy, and I'm sticking to it -- until reality bites me in the ass. :)
 
There are 14 teams in the West that wish they were as unfinished as us


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KingSpeed said:
There are 14 teams in the West that wish they were as unfinished as us


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Sucks to be them! :)

Don't get me wrong, I'll support the team we have, and I believe we have as good a shot as any of the top 8 teams that don't have LBJ. IF we can improve the bench, though, and improve our chances, you have to do it. It's worth talking about.
 
rasheedfan2005 said:
I don't get why everyone thinks the #1 team in west stands no chance at making playoff noise and needs to make a move ASAP
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The #1 team in the west--at the moment--needs to prove it over more than 23 games before many of us ate convinced that regular season success will new able to translate into playoff success. News flash: it doesn't always.

There's validity to the thought process that a stronger bench and better paint defense are important to winning in the postseason. There's also validity to the opinion that what appears to be outstanding chemistry should be preserved, perhaps even at the expense of moves that might result in improved performance. And there is room in an open mind for both concepts.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
The #1 team in the west--at the moment--needs to prove it over more than 23 games before many of us ate convinced that regular season success will new able to translate into playoff success. News flash: it doesn't always.

There's validity to the thought process that a stronger bench and better paint defense are important to winning in the postseason. There's also validity to the opinion that what appears to be outstanding chemistry should be preserved, perhaps even at the expense of moves that might result in improved performance. And there is room in an open mind for both concepts.
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I don't think anybody is claiming that regular season success "always" translates into playoff success. However, there is likely a strong correlation.

Has anybody checked to see how well the team leading the western conference after, say, 30 games finished the playoffs?
 
That hot start Dallas team the year BEFORE they won the ship comes to mind.....
 
BBert said:
Maybe not. And he may be as bad at defense, although that would be difficult. But is he as much of a ball hog? Is he going to go one-on-three crazy without a single teammate over half court? I've seen Mo freeze out Damian during Lillard Time. I've seen Mo freeze out Wes when Wes was in the middle of a hot streak. Each time it ended poorly.

I actually don't expect much if anything from CJ this season. Other than Summer League, he's had what, going on a year off from competitive basketball? The issue is probably moot, because I just don't see Stotts taking the ball away from his vet designated scorer Mo, and giving it to CJ.

I have a good imagination though. I imagine CJ, some day, looking a lot like Mo, with a strong mid-range game and better passing to teammates. That's my fantasy, and I'm sticking to it -- until reality bites me in the ass. :)
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I just don't understand where Stotts will find enough time for CJ to have a serious impact on this team. What are they going to do have two combo guards on the floor at the same time that pretty much merrier each other? That's why I think CJ might be more valuable to the (Win now team) Blazers in a trade but what the hell do I know? I'm just a fan.
 
blazerboy30 said:
I don't think anybody is claiming that regular season success "always" translates into playoff success. However, there is likely a strong correlation.
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Probably. All I'm saying is that those railing against and ridiculing others for having the audacity to hold and present viewpoints that differ from theirs are being a tad unreasonable.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Probably. All I'm saying is that those railing against and ridiculing others for having the audacity to hold and present viewpoints that differ from theirs are being a tad unreasonable.
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At some point, when the entire point being made is rendered flawed or incomplete by other posters showing obvious selective use of criteria, yet the poster/moderator continues to push the stupid point, then the only option is ridicule or ignore.

If posters continue to make the same stupid point for whatever reason, then Iassume that the moderator, WR, poster is merely trolling.

What's the difference between the moderator and MIXIM at this juncture? I can't find one.
 
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PapaG said:
At some point, when the entire point being made is rendered flawed or incomplete bu others posters showing obvious selective use of criteria, yet the poster/moderator continues to push the stupid point, then the only option is ridicule or ignore.

If posters continue to make the same stupid point for whatever reason, then Iassume that the moderator, WR, poster is merely trolling.

What's the difference between the moderator and MIXIM T this juncture? I can't find one.
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I just spent the last eight hours in the hospital in excruciating pain because of a dislocated knee, so I'm not really in the mood to argue with you.

You're a true class act.
 
Seriously though Nate hope you're get better..,the lol was just so easy
 
Natebishop3 said:
I just spent the last eight hours in the hospital in excruciating pain because of a dislocated knee, so I'm not really in the mood to argue with you.

You're a true class act.
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Playing ball with G.O. again?
 
Nate, don't let the Blazer team physician operate on you.
 
All the starters played fewer than 30 minutes because the bench held the lead for a change. Mo had a nice line, Wright went 5-5 from three, and that Crabbe kid can shoot too.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I just spent the last eight hours in the hospital in excruciating pain because of a dislocated knee, so I'm not really in the mood to argue with you.

You're a true class act.
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I'm in Montana with my terminal cancer-ridden step-dad a shell of himself, and I'm trying to structure the sale of his business in a way that protects him and my mom from giving unnecessary payments to his ex-wife from 20 years ago upon that sale. I need to get it done quickly, because other than the negotiated sale price for the business, his and/or my mom's income over two years depends completely on how many of his current clients stay with the new investor over the next two years. Now that people know there is a verbal agreement, it's meetings with lawyers during the day, and then watching a great man rapidly die in front of my eyes at night, while I'm calling current clients and trying to placate them by letting them know that sale will happen by the end of the year.

Other than that, I had to pull a dresser off of him tonight in his closet only 30 minutes after arguing with him about the structure of the sale (he thinks he should still run the show, but he can't remember what he had for dinner), because he got up from his chair and tried to put on slippers, and then somehow pulled the dresser on top of him. Lucky he didn't break an ankle, or at least pop his skin from the edema in the ankles and right arm, because both would have meant ER. The right arm looks like a fucking lobster claw at this point, with the cellulitis and the redness from the cancer.

Sorry about your knee, but your posts here this week have been trollish and stupid. It's a fucking knee. I've had surgery on both knees. Deal with it. I don't suffer foolish posts, such as Stotts' rotation pattern re: Lillard and his shooting. That was such an incredibly stupid point to make, yet you kept defending it for some reason.

I don't understand why you continually complain about things when the team is now 20-4. Are you just a constantly negative person? I enjoy the Blazers because they are a diversion from reality, and lucky for me this year, we as fans have a fun team to watch, and a sense of pride for long-time fans who have been through some rather miserable seasons, outside of Roy's prime, since the start of the new millennium.
 
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tlongII said:
Exactly. Lots of idiots in here.
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they tend to be the most frequent/vocal posters as well, just throwing out whatever off the top of their head BS that occurs to them as if it's of value. Time passing proving them wrong again and again doesn't seem to do anything to slow them down

STOMP
 
PapaG said:
I'm in Montana with my terminal cancer-ridden step-dad a shell of himself, and I'm trying to structure the sale of his business in a way that protects him and my mom from giving unnecessary payments to his ex-wife from 20 years ago upon that sale. I need to get it done quickly, because other than the negotiated sale price for the business, his and/or my mom's income over two years depends completely on how many of his current clients stay with the new investor over the next two years. Now that people know there is a verbal agreement, it's meetings with lawyers during the day, and then watching a great man rapidly die in front of my eyes at night, while I'm calling current clients and trying to placate them by letting them know that sale will happen by the end of the year.

Other than that, I had to pull a dresser off of him tonight in his closet only 30 minutes after arguing with him about the structure of the sale (he thinks he should still run the show, but he can't remember what he had for dinner), because he got up from his chair and tried to put on slippers, and then somehow pulled the dresser on top of him. Lucky he didn't break an ankle, or at least pop his skin from the edema in the ankles and right arm, because both would have meant ER. The right arm looks like a fucking lobster claw at this point, with the cellulitis and the redness from the cancer.

Sorry about your knee, but your posts here this week have been trollish and stupid. It's a fucking knee. I've had surgery on both knees. Deal with it. I don't suffer foolish posts, such as Stotts' rotation pattern re: Lillard and his shooting. That was such an incredibly stupid point to make, yet you kept defending it for some reason.

I don't understand why you continually complain about things when the team is now 20-4. Are you just a constantly negative person? I enjoy the Blazers because they are a diversion from reality, and lucky for me this year, we as fans have a fun team to watch, and a sense of pride for long-time fans who have been through some rather miserable seasons, outside of Roy's prime, since the start of the new millennium.
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I'm sorry about your family, but why do you care so much about what interests me with the team? Just because I have different thoughts, opinions, and ideas than you do, does not make them wrong or trollish. They're theories. The whole point of a forum is to share ideas and thoughts. You don't have to agree with them all, but you do have to respect the people who post them. My brain works differently than yours. I covered professional sports for eight years of my life. I don't just look at the positive. I look at the whole picture. It's hard to turn that off. I can't just be happy. When I see a bench that isn't performing well, I want to talk about it. When I see Lillard struggling with part of his game, I want to talk about it.

Some of the posters on here, such as STOMP or yourself, take it SO personally when someone posts something that they construe as negative about the team that they love. Why does it bother you so much? Trolling is posting something specifically to illicit a reaction out of someone. I post these things because I actually want to talk about them. That's not trolling. Sorry if bothers you, but I'm not changing who I am to make you happy.

I am who I am, I make no apologies, and I'm not changing. I'm not trolling you. Get over it.
 
PapaG said:
I'm in Montana with my terminal cancer-ridden step-dad a shell of himself, and I'm trying to structure the sale of his business in a way that protects him and my mom from giving unnecessary payments to his ex-wife from 20 years ago upon that sale. I need to get it done quickly, because other than the negotiated sale price for the business, his and/or my mom's income over two years depends completely on how many of his current clients stay with the new investor over the next two years. Now that people know there is a verbal agreement, it's meetings with lawyers during the day, and then watching a great man rapidly die in front of my eyes at night, while I'm calling current clients and trying to placate them by letting them know that sale will happen by the end of the year.

Other than that, I had to pull a dresser off of him tonight in his closet only 30 minutes after arguing with him about the structure of the sale (he thinks he should still run the show, but he can't remember what he had for dinner), because he got up from his chair and tried to put on slippers, and then somehow pulled the dresser on top of him. Lucky he didn't break an ankle, or at least pop his skin from the edema in the ankles and right arm, because both would have meant ER. The right arm looks like a fucking lobster claw at this point, with the cellulitis and the redness from the cancer.

Sorry about your knee, but your posts here this week have been trollish and stupid. It's a fucking knee. I've had surgery on both knees. Deal with it. I don't suffer foolish posts, such as Stotts' rotation pattern re: Lillard and his shooting. That was such an incredibly stupid point to make, yet you kept defending it for some reason.

I don't understand why you continually complain about things when the team is now 20-4. Are you just a constantly negative person? I enjoy the Blazers because they are a diversion from reality, and lucky for me this year, we as fans have a fun team to watch, and a sense of pride for long-time fans who have been through some rather miserable seasons, outside of Roy's prime, since the start of the new millennium.
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I just want to say that I don't consider Nate's posts "trollish or stupid" and I don't consider his ideas to improve the team to be "complaining" or "negative". When I used to run a small business, my mantra was "If we are not growing (improving), then we are dying (stagnating). This mantra served me very well in a very successful business.
 
:lol: Hey emo, why did you think I was referring to you? And which idiots do you think tlong was calling out as dominating our forum?

STOMP
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
I just want to say that I don't consider Nate's posts "trollish or stupid" and I don't consider his ideas to improve the team to be "complaining" or "negative". When I used to run a small business, my mantra was "If we are not growing (improving), then we are dying (stagnating). This mantra served me very well in a very successful business.
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But we clearly ARE growing and improving every single night. We're growing from within. Trades aren't the answer to everything.
 
Wow, I guess I should have been paying more attention to this thread.
 
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