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wizenheimer said:
I'm sure the Blazers were asking for Camara at the time of the trade

I'm skeptical about the growing narrative that the Blazers knew how good Camara was going to be. To me, it looks like they were just wanting another prospect and Camara was about all Phoenix had; and the Blazers got lucky
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They didn't know after is workout but watching him in summer league, I think they knew.
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
They didn't know after is workout but watching him in summer league, I think they knew.
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knew what exactly?

Cronin explicitly said the priorities in assets he wanted back in a Dame trade was draft picks & young prospects. Phoenix did not have any player, 23 and younger, except Camara. He was the only Phoenix player that fit the criteria that Cronin had already listed (and 23 is probably right on the edge of 'young'). I'd imagine that Camara's SL performance helped assure the Blazers. But I'm highly skeptical that the Blazer FO knew they were potentially getting a long-term starter at SF, who happened to be a great defender with both 2-way and glue-guy potential. That looks like good fortune finally breaking in Portland's direction than the other way around
 
wizenheimer said:
I'm sure the Blazers were asking for Camara at the time of the trade

I'm skeptical about the growing narrative that the Blazers knew how good Camara was going to be. To me, it looks like they were just wanting another prospect and Camara was about all Phoenix had; and the Blazers got lucky
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I think the addition of Mike Schmidt and two new Euro scouts had him on the radar. A lot of teams missed out on drafting him. His questionable shooting and age were probably issues as he's older than most rookies and not an offensive powerhouse at all. His defensive instincts have just translated really well to the NBA game. I do think we got lucky with him.
 
wizenheimer said:
I'm sure the Blazers were asking for Camara at the time of the trade

I'm skeptical about the growing narrative that the Blazers knew how good Camara was going to be. To me, it looks like they were just wanting another prospect and Camara was about all Phoenix had; and the Blazers got lucky
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And that’s a bad thing?
 
riverman said:
I think the addition of Mike Schmidt and two new Euro scouts had him on the radar. A lot of teams missed out on drafting him. His questionable shooting and age were probably issues as he's older than most rookies and not an offensive powerhouse at all. His defensive instincts have just translated really well to the NBA game. I do think we got lucky with him.
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(This isn’t directed at you) Can we start giving Schmitz the benefit of the doubt on this shit. Ex grabbing walker, and being long on Murray and Rupert.
 
Does anything think Camara could become a relatively respectable shooter by the end of the season? He’s shooting 40% in December, which includes a 0/4 and 2/10 game. Part of it is probably due to the return of guys like Ant and Grant. His season average of around 30% isn’t terrible for a first year player. Outside of bad shooting nights on 5+ 3pa, he has plenty of 1/2, 2/4, 2/2 games.

I’m hoping for around 33% by the end of the season.
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
He had a really bad workout with Portland.
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Then he turned their heads in Summer League. If they gave him a workout, then they were already interested. Another gem thanks to our scouting department.
 
BankTeller said:
Does anything think Camara could become a relatively respectable shooter by the end of the season? He’s shooting 40% in December, which includes a 0/4 and 2/10 game. Part of it is probably due to the return of guys like Ant and Grant. His season average of around 30% isn’t terrible for a first year player. Outside of bad shooting nights on 5+ 3pa, he has plenty of 1/2, 2/4, 2/2 games.

I’m hoping for around 33% by the end of the season.
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maybe

he did improve every season on three point shooting in his 4 year college career:

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generally, he improved every season in a lot of areas but that's pretty common for 4 year college players

still, he finished as a 30.7% shooter from three in college; from a line 2 feet closer than the NBA. 30.7% in college and 30.4% this season seem to correlate. The stat from college that makes me a little skeptical is his FT shooting. He was only a 63% shooter in college; and 68% as a Blazer. It's not a hard and fast rule but usually, FT% is a decent gauge of a player's inventory of shooting skills
 
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Toumani is tough. He plays hard. He's got some new battle scars to prove it.
 
Whyachi said:
Toumani is tough. He plays hard. He's got some new battle scars to prove it.
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I think he can bring a Jerome Kersey-type toughness to a team.
Just needs to spend all summer working on his jumper. He already shoots the three at 33.7 percent, so I think he can get up around 35-36%
But he needs a mid-range shot too.
 
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Pinwheel1 said:
I think he can bring a Jerome Kersey-type toughness to a team.
Just needs to spend all summer working on his jumper. He already shoots the three at 33.7 percent, so I think he can get up around 35-35%
But he needs a mid-range shot too.
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I really like his slashing. More of him cutting to the hoop.
 
Toumani has “want to.” His give-a-crapometer runs high.
Players who want to play defense: Toumani, Rupert, Murray, Jabari.
I like a lot of the players on this craptastic team!
 
HoopsFanAZ said:
Toumani has “want to.” His give-a-crapometer runs high.
Players who want to play defense: Toumani, Rupert, Murray, Jabari.
I like a lot of the players on this craptastic team!
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Gotta say I agree - they're a good bunch of kids (and Reath, who's a very old "kid"). The problem with this team is certainly not likeability.
 
would love to see him elevate his game this year, perhaps eventually become a solid starter, he said he worked hard this summer on his 3 pt shot, if he can hit that consistently we got something good
 
Blazinaway said:
would love to see him elevate his game this year, perhaps eventually become a solid starter, he said he worked hard this summer on his 3 pt shot, if he can hit that consistently we got something good
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If he and Deni are both shooting the 3 ball close to 40%, Portland's 2024-5 tank won't work very well.

STOMP
 
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