how many weeks, or months, or years do we wait for that to happen before the nets decide to make a change?
Boone is still hurt, even if he does start again, I doubt it's gonna be at PF for reasons people have already mentioned.
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how many weeks, or months, or years do we wait for that to happen before the nets decide to make a change?
Boone is still hurt, even if he does start again, I doubt it's gonna be at PF for reasons people have already mentioned.
You know it doesn't have to be boone and i've already said that many times as well. What i'm asking now is how long do the nets try the Yi experiment before trying something else. It doesn't have to be boone!
Did i mention it doesn't have to be boone. Let me clarify here ah boone doesn't have to be the starter here the nets have several other options since they have like 4 or 5 other pf options...
How long does the invisible man get to start?
i'm not sure what point he was trying to make but its pretty bad to blame any sort of disfunction or loss on the ex-bucks....
Frank needs to make the system work... all Nets Fans have been begging for a post scorer, we have two potential solid ones in YI and Brook yet the post up plays are nearly non existent for them...
well i'd be happy with 17/9, but really i'm looking for a bit more. I'd like him to physical in the paint, play some decent defense, and maybe have an assist or two. I'd like to see him alter some shots ( you know show some presence in the paint ) and maybe a block or two. In other words, not play like he has in the past 3 games or so.
Its really the perfect type of opponent for him and i'd really like to see the "potential" everybody here is hyping up. You know like a normal starting nba power forward. Its just hard for me to understand how you can be seven foot and be so invisible. I know there is a learning curve here and since he was " given" the starting spot in the rotation because of his potential, it would be nice to see it every once and a while.
Is that asking too much from the Yi apologists??
well i'd be happy with 17/9, but really i'm looking for a bit more. I'd like him to physical in the paint, play some decent defense, and maybe have an assist or two. I'd like to see him alter some shots ( you know show some presence in the paint ) and maybe a block or two. In other words, not play like he has in the past 3 games or so.
Its really the perfect type of opponent for him and i'd really like to see the "potential" everybody here is hyping up. You know like a normal starting nba power forward. Its just hard for me to understand how you can be seven foot and be so invisible. I know there is a learning curve here and since he was " given" the starting spot in the rotation because of his potential, it would be nice to see it every once and a while.
Is that asking too much from the Yi apologists??
Forget about points right now. He commits far too many fouls, and gets far too few offensive rebounds. Over the past four games, for instance, he has grabbed a TOTAL of 1 offensive rebounds and gotten one steal and two blocks, while committing 13 fouls. When he gets close, he gets his shot blocked a ridiculous 29% of the time (according to 82games.com). On the plus side, he is committing fewer turnovers thatn he was earlier in the season. Still, he is a net negative in number of possessions.
He also lacks consistency. I will give you a string of numbers: 0, 6, 0, 8, 6, 0, 2, 2, 0. Those are the number of free throws he has taken in the last nine games. Too often he exhibits no aggressiveness at all.
He should be taking roughly ten shots a game. Often he hits that number, but he has had a few games, like the last one, when he has taken just four shots. Many of his shots are taken when he is open, but he misses far too many of them. Over a nine-game stretch ending three games ago, he shot a pathetic 33-for-86, or 38%. That includes his 27-point game! In the other eight games during that stretch he shot just 24-for-71, or 33.8
%. How can that possibly be acceptable?
He has shown hints that he can be a productive contributor, but there are just too many times where he just doesn't contribute at all.
Forget about points right now. He commits far too many fouls, and gets far too few offensive rebounds. Over the past four games, for instance, he has grabbed a TOTAL of 1 offensive rebounds and gotten one steal and two blocks, while committing 13 fouls. When he gets close, he gets his shot blocked a ridiculous 29% of the time (according to 82games.com). On the plus side, he is committing fewer turnovers thatn he was earlier in the season. Still, he is a net negative in number of possessions.
He also lacks consistency. I will give you a string of numbers: 0, 6, 0, 8, 6, 0, 2, 2, 0. Those are the number of free throws he has taken in the last nine games. Too often he exhibits no aggressiveness at all.
He should be taking roughly ten shots a game. Often he hits that number, but he has had a few games, like the last one, when he has taken just four shots. Many of his shots are taken when he is open, but he misses far too many of them. Over a nine-game stretch ending three games ago, he shot a pathetic 33-for-86, or 38%. That includes his 27-point game! In the other eight games during that stretch he shot just 24-for-71, or 33.8
%. How can that possibly be acceptable?
He has shown hints that he can be a productive contributor, but there are just too many times where he just doesn't contribute at all.
but Dumpy, what about all his potential??
but Dumpy, what about all his potential??
the stupid fouls and inability to draw fouls have nothing to do with his potential. How can a PF get a total of one OR over a four-game span? It is pathetic.
taking free throws is linked with possessions and shots per game. Committing fouls can also correlate to bad team defense, it can mean a lot of things.
Besides, we already agree Yi can be more productive, that's said over and over. You don't need to try and blind me with numbers. However, ALL the PF on this Nets team is just as bad and unproductive. So, it's not isolated to Yi. You have to give some of the blame to the system. Just like how the system and coaching gets credit for Harris success.
i agree 100% but some here now are blaming coach Frank for not running enough plays here for Yi.
Do you think Ryan Anderson could put up better numbers if inserted in with the starting unit? Personally i do and now i understand why frank has him in there. He's waiting for Yi to sink....
but Dumpy, what about all his potential??
I think Ryan's numbers would be similar, but Ryan does have a knack for getting under the basket and he has that nifty reverse layup. Ryan also seems to move more effectively without the ball. However, Ryan is a rookie with one month of experience, and could be as much as four years younger than Yi.
I'd love to see Yi succeed, and he has shown some flashes of great play, like when he drives through the lane without the ball and puts it down. But too often it seems like he is just standing around, and he misses far too many shots for a guy with his experience and talent.
Listen Ryan isn't perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but for a one month rookie he does show alot more bb IQ than Yi. His shot is as good or better and he has a knack to be able to get to the line where he is a very good foul shooter. If given the same chance Yi has had i would predict that Ryan Anderson would put up similar numbers, or most likely better numbers. Also, Ryan Anderson is a better rebounder than Yi, and does get offensive rebounds as well...
I think Ryan is awesome and have thought so ever since the summer league game I attended, and now wish I had interrupted his lunch and chatted with him after the game. But at this point I think that any improvement would be marginal at best. If Yi should be replaced, maybe it should be Najera once he is healthy. I'd rather Yi just get better, though. I think Najera will be used in the fourth quarter and whenever the Nets want to slow down the opposing offense when things are getting out of control.
Back to Yi, some of his fans here believe that he isn't getting enough touches. I assume that many of you haven't followed the Nets before Yi was acquired, but a good comparison would be Nenad Krstic, who was the fourth option on offense but still consistently put up a decent number of points, and showed steady improvement until his injury. His second year, which we'll use for comparison to Yi, he averaged 13.5 PPG on 11.0 shots. Shot over 50% (not entirely comparable since he didn't have quite the range of Yi, but he did have a nice 15-foot jump shot). Took 3.3 FTs a game. 2.3 offensive rebounds a game. 3.7 fouls and 1.7 turnovers in over 30 minutes per game. But more importantly, these numbers all were improvements from his rookie season; his numbers improved over the course of the year; and he really broke out the following year before he got hurt (averaging 16/7). If Yi can replicate the numbers Krstic put up as a second-year player, everyone will be happy.