What is the ideal off-season?

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Pinwheel1 said:
I hope Nurk stays, but I am pretty sure we made the 2nd round the year before we got him with Plumlee as our center.
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im talking about the season he got traded to the trail blazers, they werent in the playoff spots
 
I still hope we can trade Dame for Ben Simmons, just to the Nets rather than the Sixers.

Failing that, I think Chicago might be a willing trading partner who might (a) give Dame a serious shot at a title, and (b) give us players that fit the new team style:

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Or perhaps the Warriors fail to win this year and want one last shot with Curry, while at the same time bring Dame home:

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Pinwheel1 said:
I hope Nurk stays, but I am pretty sure we made the 2nd round the year before we got him with Plumlee as our center.
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I'm pretty sure that the furthest we've ever made it in the Dame era was with him injured. I'm not saying that Nurk is a bad player he's just not that great. I'll be pissed if he gets a single year over 18M in his next contract and that means I expect the deal to start at around 15M in it's first year... and I don't even think that's a good deal. I think the difference between guys like Bobby Portis, RoLo, Bamba and even Khem Birch versus what Nurk does is not worth two to three times in pay. I actually think if the Pelicans pick conveys and there isn't a player there that makes sense for us or a way to package it in a trade for an established player we like, we should trade back in the draft to San Antonio at 18 and 20 where we can take Orlando Robinson or Walker Kessler at 18 and BPA at 20. We could start Robinson or Kessler next season, let Nurk walk and seriously we wouldn't miss Nurk that much.

I think because of some of his physical gifts, unique skills and the good parts of his personality we overlook way too many of the negatives about Nurk. With all of the blown gimme shots, all of the far too fancy passes for turnovers, all of the fouling, his inability to cover the perimeter and most importantly his lack of durability, Nurk really isn't an asset that I want here. I get it that he's a great high post facilitator, I get it that he is huge, I get it that he has good foot work and I understand that those things translate into tangible positive results on both ends of the court... I just don't ever feel like those results actually outweigh the negatives by much and I definitely don't think the positives outweigh the negatives enough to justify his current contract, let alone a raise on it going forward.
 
illmatic99 said:
Why did you come back to the forum again?

I thought you quit.
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Idog1976 said:
That’s totally reasonable and Brown is one of the few longshot might be available guys I would consider trading Simons for due to his size, position, skill and age. He’s not much older than Simons and already a proven two way player. Im just scared at how much potential I see in Simons.
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He's definitely not CJ McCollum. It's not a good comparison.
 


If you couldn’t get him as a centerpiece for CJ….

Draymond-esque in both draft round and impact.
 
Scalma said:
Wonder what the asking price is on Hachimura. Seems like a Billups type and doesn’t project to start in Washington next season.
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He's a more efficient scorer than Grant because of his 44% 3-point shooting. What's his defense like?
 
blazerfan11 said:
He's a more efficient scorer than Grant because of his 44% 3-point shooting. What's his defense like?
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No idea really. I just don’t like the idea of giving up a lottery pick for Grant, and I got a feeling that would be a real possibility if/when they got one. Dunno what Rui would cost but can’t imagine it’s as much as Grant.
 
Ultimate ideal offseason for me (also trying to be realistic)…

We end up around #6 and the NOP conveys around #10.

Trade down from #6 and draft Tari Eason. With pick #10, I’d package it and find a trade on draft night. I have a feeling Hart will continue to show us he’s a perfect fit as the backup 2/3 and he can playmake a little bit. So I’d rather look for a backup PG in FA if Dame is here for the long term. Guys like Delon Wright, Ricky Rubio, Tyus Jones, etc can be had this summer.

I wouldn’t consider keeping both selection unless one of the top 3 bigs falls to us. Otherwise, I’d rather trade the pick for an upgrade. Maybe Bledsoe + #10 for Grant. Not my favorite choice, but for the sake of trying to be realistic; if Dame wants him, I trust he can convince Grant to stay for around his current salary long term. So that would take care of one forward spot.

In FA, re-sign Ant for around the Brown contract and Nurkic around $18m/year. Re-sign Watford for 3-4 years. Sign Jalen Smith and Delon Wright for market value.

You still have Little, the TPE, and our two 2nds to make an upgrade at the starting wing. Jonathan Isaac fits in the TPE and would probably be my ideal fit. If we got word that he’s making good progress, I’d give them both of our 2nds + some of the assets we get for trading down from #6.

Dame/Wright
Simons/Hart/Johnson
Grant/Little/Eason
Isaac/Eason/Watford
Nurkic/Smith

Maybe you look for a third big. But I think this team competes as soon as next year.
 
Another guy that is 100% a Billups type is Payton’s kid. Not sure how much he’s gonna get or how he even fits on this roster but that’s a Billups player if I ever saw one.
 
Idog1976 said:
Zero interest in Holmgren legit zero. He looks like he will be at best a rotation guy.
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Natebishop3 said:
An even skinnier Zach Collins.
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I just don't get this. He's completely different than ZCo. He's a perimeter player with a good handle and a legit stroke. He's much more like Porzingis or Markkanen.
 
blazerkor said:
I guess the ideal off season would be landing the number one pick and drafting Jabari Brown with it, our Pelicans pick landing at 5, being able to package a S&T Ant and that 5th pick to get Jaylen Brown, picking up Hart's option, re-signing Nurk for 15M per season, re-signing Watford and Hughes to minimum contracts, picking up a serviceable backup big in the second round (Oscar Tshiebwe), Tyus Jones with the MLE. Then get the best two undrafted rookies or young GLeaugers for our two way contracts.

Dame, Tyus
Josh, Keon, Didi
Jaylen, Nas, Elijah
Jabari, Justise, GB3
Nurk, Oscar, Trendon
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Didn't you forget somebody? One of mine and Billups' favorites?
 
PtldPlatypus said:
I just don't get this. He's completely different than ZCo. He's a perimeter player with a good handle and a legit stroke. He's much more like Porzingis or Markkanen.
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I don’t think he’s like them at all, they’re just all tall white guys. Chet is an ELITE defensive prospect while probably not being the scorer that Porzingis and maybe even Markkanen are. But he can space the court and finishes everything around the rim.

btw being compared to Zach isn’t a bad thing. He’s a good player when on the court.
 
Josh Hart is a backup? I think anyone saying this is fucking nuts. He plays solid defense and just scored 27 points on 16 shots.
Maybe this kind of output from a guard is baffling to Blazer fans, but this is the kind of efficiency (along with his defense) that helps make you a contender. Stephen Curry's backcourt partner isn't another Stephen Curry.
 
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blazerfan11 said:
Josh Hart is a backup? I think anyone saying this is fucking nuts. He plays solid defense and just scored 27 points on 16 shots.
Maybe this kind of output from a guard is baffling to Blazer fans, but this is the kind of efficiency (along with his defense) that helps make you a contender. Stephen Curry's backcourt partner isn't another Stephen Curry.
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Thank you! If I see one more post about simons starting next to dame I am gonna lose my freaking mind. This isn’t stotts we are talking here, this is Billups. I promise you when next season come and if dame, simons, and hart are still on the roster, Billups will start dame and hart with simons being our electrifying super 6th man
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
Didn't you forget somebody? One of mine and Billups' favorites?
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I don't know who I forgot. If you're saying McLemore we just have too many young guys on the team for him to have a roster spot. We already have Keon, Elijah and Didi that we will either have under contract or the right to match, plus in this scenario we would be keeping Hart. So I don't think we'd be bringing back Ben.
 
Trade Lillard for Anthony Davis. We're contenders. It gives LA a legit #1 guy who is healthy. The Blazers get one of the top 2-way players in the league and one of the top big men. Just what we need.
Davis seems a bit disonnected in LA. He will be revitalized by the energy of the Blazers.

edit: If Winslow to Nurkic is good, Winslow to Davis would be incredible. Like these:
 
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