Zombie What is the next big trend?

[HomerLovesKoolAid]

A third restroom.

 

[THE HCP]

We'll win a championship and people on here will still find something to bitch about.

 

[Gronk Brady]

We'll win a championship and people on here will still find something to bitch about.

Bro... is there nothing fans can complain about?! So going down by 20 to teams less talented AND missing their star player game after game is not justification to be unhappy with the product??? Just keep our mouths shut and be happy?! You talk about the negativity in here... is it not justified? We are probably the most underachieving team in NBA...

 

[HomerLovesKoolAid]

But seriously folks, I hope it's actual fundamental basketball.

Good defense with mixed schemes that force turnovers and result in layups and dunks. More 2 pointers. Take a fucking layup or close range shot instead of passing to the 3 point line. More feeding the post. I need the great S2 minds to help with the math but I'm pretty sure that two 2 pointers beats a 3.

And.........PASSING. More passing than dribbling. I'm sick of watching one-on-one dribblefests and giving up the ball to crappy shooters at the end of the shot clock.

Homer Auerbach

 

[THE HCP]

Bro... is there nothing fans can complain about?! So going down by 20 to teams less talented AND missing their star player game after game is not justification to be unhappy with the product??? Just keep our mouths shut and be happy?! You talk about the negativity in here... is it not justified? We are probably the most underachieving team in NBA...

You thought this team would win 60 games? Fuck you talking about "less talented" teams? We are a .500 team.....right where we are supposed to be. I never said people can't complain or be unhappy. Thats not whats happening here on the daily.

 

[riverman]

Make the minor leagues great again!

 

[THE HCP]

I think you are seeing the trend in Philly and Milwaukee......long athletic players that can do a little of everything.

 

[riverman]

anyone angry about being the sparring partners of the NBA hasn't been a Blazer fan for very long....there's always a narrative to enjoy somehow as a fan...y'know....ET made 3 jumpers in a row! We had more assists than turnovers...that kind of shit

 

[Gronk Brady]

You thought this team would win 60 games? Fuck you talking about "less talented" teams? We are a .500 team.....right where we are supposed to be. I never said people can't complain or be unhappy. Thats not whats happening here on the daily.

Yes, because I believe they have the talent to win 60 games... they are just not playing the right way, hence my disappointment and negativity... I wasnt trying to insult you. Isn’t the forum a place to discuss good and bad? Since the play has been atrocious this year, what do you expect?

 

[THE HCP]

Yes, because I believe they have the talent to win 60 games... they are just not playing the right way, hence my disappointment and negativity... I wasnt trying to insult you. Isn’t the forum a place to discuss good and bad? Since the play has been atrocious this year, what do you expect?

I looked at the roster in camp and saw the moves our in division teams made and planned on us winning 40-42 games (and got blasted for this on here) Definitely NOT 50s or 60s territory. I also looked at my son and didn't assume he would make the NFL or NBA and have enjoyed every minute watching him grow up playing sports. #RealisticExpectaionsFAMS

 

[Gronk Brady]

I looked at the roster in camp and saw the moves our in division teams made and planned on us winning 40-42 games (and got blasted for this on here) Definitely NOT 50s or 60s territory. I also looked at my son and didn't assume he would make the NFL or NBA and have enjoyed every minute watching him grow up playing sports. #RealisticExpectaionsFAMS

I didn’t think it was unrealistic to expect them to win at the same percentage they did with Nurkic last season... Especially with a full training camp and another year experience in playoffs

 

[THE HCP]

I didn’t think it was unrealistic to expect them to win at the same percentage they did with Nurkic last season... Especially with a full training camp and another year experience in playoffs

Did you not take into consideration the other teams getting better and making moves and we didn't? Or that we caught other teams off guard adding Nurk and we hadn't been scouted properly yet? I can understand getting caught up in the Nurk fever though.

 

[kjironman1]

robotics replaces refs...coaches will challenge calls by pushing a button and will coach from a gaming console and have valet parking

Heck lets just go with robot players and throw away anything to do with Contracts and the CBA. Team with the best scientists and engineering wins.

 

[BBert]

I think Milwaukee and Philadelphia may be on the bleeding edge of the next big trend with their insane length. Guys like Simmons, Middleton, Covington, Antetokoumpo, Embiid, Maker make it incredibly difficult on their opponents defensively, and most of those guys are very young and will only improve in their shot-blocking and passing-lane disruption. I could see a super-long team being precisely the antidote necessary to possibly overcome the pace-and-space trend.

I have been thinking exactly this all year.

 

[Gronk Brady]

Did you not take into consideration the other teams getting better and making moves and we didn't? Or that we caught other teams off guard adding Nurk and we hadn't been scouted properly yet? I can understand getting caught up in the Nurk fever though.

I did account for those things... but those teams would have to incorporate new players while we would open the season with good chemistry was my assumption... combine that with the easiest schedule in NBA for first qtr of season... that’s where my expectations come from. I did have Nurk fever tho. Also, with me personally it’s not even about the win loss record... it’s more about how they play... and going down by 20 at some point in almost every game, even against shit teams, is unacceptable to me. I expect more as a fan.

 

[GriLtCheeZ]

I (honest to God) expect that a 4 point line will be initiated sooner rather than later.......

If it ever is, I'll stop watching the NBA.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Did you not take into consideration the other teams getting better and making moves and we didn't? Or that we caught other teams off guard adding Nurk and we hadn't been scouted properly yet? I can understand getting caught up in the Nurk fever though.

I think the perception is that our move was made early by getting Nurk and after a full preseason we would hopefully even be better than we were with him last year. Combine that with all of our young studs having another year of growth and experience, and that adds up to equate most of the off season moves made by other teams.

Nurk is not what he was last year. Harkless has joined some Gleague it seems, and Stotts is not solidifying the lineup. Yeah that can be disappointing regardless of the predictions.

 

[BonesJones]

Since Terry started coaching in 2012, Portland has been among the leaders in 3pt shot attempts and makes. The rules were making it tough to defend players and Stotts/Pop/et al realized the importance of the 3pt shot. In 2013, Wes, Dame, and Nic were all top 10 in threes made and attempted per game in the entire league. We were consistently going smaller and smaller with guys like Nic and Dorell Wright playing PF, with Dame sliding to SG, etc. Meyers Leonard was shooting threes, and we thought he was a unique piece in our roster and attack. We, along with the likes of GS/HOU were essentially revolutionizing the game.

Fast forward three years and now everyone is doing it. Pace is up, positionless, 3pt heavy basketball is in. Currently, there are 70 guys averaging at least 5 three point attempts per game. In 2014, there were 42. And the teams who were the trailblazers in playing this way like GS/HOU are now doing it better than anyone else, and have more talent than 95% of the league, while we are trending downward and our offense getting more and more stagnant.

So what's the next big trend in basketball after this three point revolution? If we want to stay ahead of the curve, is it best we develop our talents? Are big men and post play going to make a comeback? We won't be able to beat GS at their own game. And our talents are far inferior in pretty much every respect as is. I get the feeling that Neil gives very little thought to roster-building and style of play, but maybe I'm not as perceptive to what he's doing?

Starting lineups with nobody shorter than 6'9. If PG goes to PHI, that could happen.

 

[Destroyer of Worlds]

If I were trying to compete, I would field a team of a 6’8 to 6’11 players that are decently well rounded, can shoot and defend.

I then use my two monster PGs and SGs to post up their counterparts.

I invert my offense so that my Center, PF, and SF are all perimeter oriented, keeping in mind they aren’t the traditional players given those labels. Creating essentially a 4 out offense with a big guard as my post. Almost as we did with Wes. This forces players to rotate that typically aren’t used to doing it on the perimeter.

To give an example, here is a lineup that I have pulled out of my ass.

PG - Batum
SG - Tatum
SF - Draymomd
PF - Covington
C - Z Collins

Thoughts: not even close to ideal, but just thought of players that matched what I was looking for.

PG - Size, shooting, dribbling, defending, playmaking. Have to find a way to get Steph / Lillard / Westbrook / CP3 out of their comfort zone and in foul trouble. Also make things more difficult for them with a much bigger defender. Also force them to guard someone bigger than them, so they are forced to play in the post. Ideally, B. Simmons, LeBron, Giannis.

SG - Needs size, shooting, defending, scoring. Prevents opposing PG from being ‘hid’ on them, and creates more mismatches. Length to bother players like Harden, K Thompson. Secondary Playmaking or ballhandler needs to come from this position or SF. This is a position I’d love to have Giannis.

SF, PF - Interchangeable, as long as secondary ballhandler has been addressed. Solid defenders, shooters, rebounders. Do it all players. Can switch anything. Also have the ability to guard bigger players, possibly.

C - Has to be able to stretch the floor, rebound, defend, and be quite mobile to maintain 5 position defensive versatility. Also has to be able to take advantage of smaller players and hold their own vs someone like DMC, but not as important as one would think imo.

Steph
Klay
Durant
Draymond
Pachulia

Would be hard to keep Guards in the game if they give up layups in the post every time down the court.

 

[Destroyer of Worlds]

Starting lineups with nobody shorter than 6'9. If PG goes to PHI, that could happen.

Beat me to it. Kudos!

 

[kjironman1]

I wrote a piece once about widening the floor 24 inches and lengthening the court 3-4 foot so they could move the 3 point line back. I think this would help a bit. As it stands now the corner three is tough to stay in bounds as it is. Then at the top you add 18 to 24 inches to the line. 12 at the corner.

 

[handiman]

Heck lets just go with robot players and throw away anything to do with Contracts and the CBA. Team with the best scientists and engineering wins.

In which case, are we planning for Championship parades or lottery tanking, having Microsoft on our side? I'm torn.

The Clippers are obviously screwed, by the same token. But then, they are the Clippers.

 

[BonesJones]

I wrote a piece once about widening the floor 24 inches and lengthening the court 3-4 foot so they could move the 3 point line back. I think this would help a bit. As it stands now the corner three is tough to stay in bounds as it is. Then at the top you add 18 to 24 inches to the line. 12 at the corner.

I would support this. Would create more spacing and would hypothetically create bigger passing lanes and would make passing and ball movement a bigger strength. Would probably reintroduce the low-post as a big part of the offense with more spacing as well as a lower efficiency of 3pt shots.

With that being said, I don't think the 3pt line should go back that far. Maybe a foot maximum.

 

[riverman]

 

[Schilly]

Trends can’t be built on anomalies. Look at how many 7’ European players were drafted trying to find the next Dirk. Or how many big center prospects to find the next Shaq. Now everyone is tryin match the Warriors it won’t work.

 

[riverman]

Basketball will be like boxing...small league and tall league...featherweights and heavyweights...!!!!

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Big PG's.

This is the reason why Saric is my #1 trade target.

 

[kjironman1]

I would support this. Would create more spacing and would hypothetically create bigger passing lanes and would make passing and ball movement a bigger strength. Would probably reintroduce the low-post as a big part of the offense with more spacing as well as a lower efficiency of 3pt shots.

With that being said, I don't think the 3pt line should go back that far. Maybe a foot maximum.

It's a foot in the corner and an extra 6 inches at the top so it stays in accordance to what they have now. I really think the advantages of widening the court and moving the three point line far outweigh the disadvantages.
In that line of thinking another option was brought up. Totally different concept. Change the size of the ball and the game immediately changes also. Think about that one?????

 

[illmatic99]

It's a foot in the corner and an extra 6 inches at the top so it stays in accordance to what they have now. I really think the advantages of widening the court and moving the three point line far outweigh the disadvantages.
In that line of thinking another option was brought up. Totally different concept. Change the size of the ball and the game immediately changes also. Think about that one?????

Don't think they'll ever do this. Would eat into the leg room for the high rollers who sit courtside. Those are pretty much the only real profitable seats (along with suites) in every arena.

 

[illmatic99]

Big PG's.

This is the reason why Saric is my #1 trade target.

Huh? Saric is not a PG.