What player do you want to get with the 7th pick?

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illmatic99 said:
KOC: https://nbadraft.theringer.com/mock-draft/

The Blazers are planning to use the seventh pick to target other proven players around the league, such as OG Anunoby. But if they keep the pick, most executives expect Portland to choose from center Jalen Duren, wing Shaedon Sharpe, or guard Dyson Daniels. Front offices expect Jusuf Nurkic to return to the Blazers, so drafting Duren wouldn’t address a short-term need. Sharpe isn’t ready to play at the NBA level yet. Daniels, at 6-foot-6, is a logical choice since he’s only 19 but is ready to play NBA defense. With sensational passing vision, he can complement Dame and Anfernee Simons in the backcourt. The Blazers have experimented with a number of big guards next to Lillard and CJ McCollum in the past. The Evan Turner experiment failed, but the idea of Turner was sound: a big playmaker who can defend multiple positions. Daniels could be everything the Blazers need and much more.
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Duren not addressing a short-term need is completely wrong.

With Grant, have now have 5 forwards and Hart who can play forward.

We have 6 guards (counting Brandon Williams).

We have ZERO legit backup centers.
 
illmatic99 said:
KOC: https://nbadraft.theringer.com/mock-draft/

The Blazers are planning to use the seventh pick to target other proven players around the league, such as OG Anunoby. But if they keep the pick, most executives expect Portland to choose from center Jalen Duren, wing Shaedon Sharpe, or guard Dyson Daniels. Front offices expect Jusuf Nurkic to return to the Blazers, so drafting Duren wouldn’t address a short-term need. Sharpe isn’t ready to play at the NBA level yet. Daniels, at 6-foot-6, is a logical choice since he’s only 19 but is ready to play NBA defense. With sensational passing vision, he can complement Dame and Anfernee Simons in the backcourt. The Blazers have experimented with a number of big guards next to Lillard and CJ McCollum in the past. The Evan Turner experiment failed, but the idea of Turner was sound: a big playmaker who can defend multiple positions. Daniels could be everything the Blazers need and much more.
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The biggest need of all is STAR PLAYER. Like top 20 at least. Throw out all the other conditions please.
 
illmatic99 said:
KOC: https://nbadraft.theringer.com/mock-draft/

The Blazers are planning to use the seventh pick to target other proven players around the league, such as OG Anunoby. But if they keep the pick, most executives expect Portland to choose from center Jalen Duren, wing Shaedon Sharpe, or guard Dyson Daniels. Front offices expect Jusuf Nurkic to return to the Blazers, so drafting Duren wouldn’t address a short-term need. Sharpe isn’t ready to play at the NBA level yet. Daniels, at 6-foot-6, is a logical choice since he’s only 19 but is ready to play NBA defense. With sensational passing vision, he can complement Dame and Anfernee Simons in the backcourt. The Blazers have experimented with a number of big guards next to Lillard and CJ McCollum in the past. The Evan Turner experiment failed, but the idea of Turner was sound: a big playmaker who can defend multiple positions. Daniels could be everything the Blazers need and much more.
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Whomever wrote this didn't say how OG Anunoby addresses a need. OG doesn't address a need. He's not a STAR and not a center/forward hybrid or center. So take the BPA in the draft.
 
illmatic99 said:
what do you see as a ceiling for this team if we move Hart + 7 for OG instead?
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I'm debating 7 vs OG only.

In the average case, probably similar ceilings but different time horizons. OG now, 7th in a few years. I understand the want to gamble on 7 being more than OG, and certainly that's possible, so the absolute ceiling may be a bit higher down the road. But it's not guaranteed. There's also a good chance the player is worse than OG, in which case we don't even reach that ceiling at all.

So if it's 7 vs OG, I am absolutely fine picking OG. If it doesn't work out you can hit the reset button sooner, and a two way wing who is <30 in age will still have good trade value down the road.
 
B-Roy said:
I'm debating 7 vs OG only.

In the average case, probably similar ceilings but different time horizons. OG now, 7th in a few years. I understand the want to gamble on 7 being more than OG, and certainly that's possible, so the absolute ceiling may be a bit higher down the road. But it's not guaranteed. There's also a good chance the player is worse than OG, in which case we don't even reach that ceiling at all.

So if it's 7 vs OG, I am absolutely fine picking OG. If it doesn't work out you can hit the reset button sooner, and a two way wing who is <30 in age will still have good trade value down the road.
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that is absolutely a fair opinion. But i'm referring more to what you think the ceiling for the team is with OG vs the ceiling for the team with 7. Do you see a team with Dame/Ant/OG/Grant/Nurk being a contender to fit this timeline you mentioned earlier?
 
B-Roy said:
I'm debating 7 vs OG only.

In the average case, probably similar ceilings but different time horizons. OG now, 7th in a few years. I understand the want to gamble on 7 being more than OG, and certainly that's possible, so the absolute ceiling may be a bit higher down the road. But it's not guaranteed. There's also a good chance the player is worse than OG, in which case we don't even reach that ceiling at all.

So if it's 7 vs OG, I am absolutely fine picking OG. If it doesn't work out you can hit the reset button sooner, and a two way wing who is <30 in age will still have good trade value down the road.
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This is exactly where I'm at. If it's OG for 7 and Bledsoe... I'm down but that's the most I'd give up and I know it's playing it safe but OG still has possible upside too. I don't think that's good enough for Toronto and I'm fine with that, so I've moved on but if that was a deal that still happened it would be a pleasant surprise, if we gave them more than that I would be disappointed.
 
illmatic99 said:
that is absolutely a fair opinion. But i'm referring more to what you think the ceiling for the team is with OG vs the ceiling for the team with 7. Do you see a team with Dame/Ant/OG/Grant/Nurk being a contender to fit this timeline you mentioned earlier?
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If it was a year like this year, I think we could have made the finals. We absolutely could have made the WCF. Dallas made it with Jalen Brunson as their second best player. And once you're in the final 4 anything can happen.

I get that the absolute ceiling with the 7th pick is higher, but it would take a perfect storm of luck to reach that ceiling in the right timeframe. The chances of that happening are probably worse than getting circumstantially lucky with a pseudo-contender. So I'd be pretty content taking the latter route, particularly because I'm not interested in being a play-in team for the next two years while we wait for that pick to develop, and we don't even know what the result will be.
 
B-Roy said:
If it was a year like this year, I think we could have made the finals. We absolutely could have made the WCF. Dallas made it with Jalen Brunson as their second best player. And once you're in the final 4 anything can happen.

I get that the absolute ceiling with the 7th pick is higher, but it would take a perfect storm of luck to reach that ceiling in the right timeframe. The chances of that happening are probably worse than getting circumstantially lucky with a pseudo-contender. So I'd be pretty content taking the latter route, particularly because I'm not interested in being a play-in team for the next two years while we wait for that pick to develop, and we don't even know what the result will be.
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So you're saying OG is the difference between a play-in team and a possible contender? honestly, i don't think he's that good.
 
It sounds like Indy will take Daniels.
There was just a report that Detroit is “enamored” with Matherin
If that’s the case…does Keegan Murray fall?
What if it’s Murray and sharpe on the board?
 
illmatic99 said:
So you're saying OG is the difference between a play-in team and a possible contender? honestly, i don't think he's that good.
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Between 7 and 3-4 in the west? Yeah. Are we as good as Dallas who was 4th? I'd say so.
 
B-Roy said:
Between 7 and 3-4 in the west? Yeah. Are we as good as Dallas who was 4th? I'd say so.
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Think Dallas' run was pretty flukish and hard to replicate. And recall Denver and the Clips will be back and healthy again next year. You know Lebron isn't going anywhere. Zion is back next year also. I think it's gonna be a dogfight just to get into the playoffs, with or without OG. The only WC playoff team possibly dropping will be Utah, and maybe Phoenix if they can't resolve Ayton.
 
blazedanugz said:
It sounds like Indy will take Daniels.
There was just a report that Detroit is “enamored” with Matherin
If that’s the case…does Keegan Murray fall?
What if it’s Murray and sharpe on the board?
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I take Murray. He's the perfect insurance policy in case we don't want to pay Grant. And I suspect there would be plenty of opportunity to play Murray and Grant together. Murray is ready to contribute right now.
 
blazedanugz said:
It sounds like Indy will take Daniels.
There was just a report that Detroit is “enamored” with Matherin
If that’s the case…does Keegan Murray fall?
What if it’s Murray and sharpe on the board?
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Great question. Sharpe IMO has a higher ceiling and a lower floor. I think that since a PF who can shoot from deep is the bigger need then I would go with the safer bet Murray. I would probably regret it though.
 
illmatic99 said:
Think Dallas' run was pretty flukish and hard to replicate. And recall Denver and the Clips will be back and healthy again next year. You know Lebron isn't going anywhere. Zion is back next year also. I think it's gonna be a dogfight just to get into the playoffs, with or without OG. The only WC playoff team possibly dropping will be Utah, and maybe Phoenix if they can't resolve Ayton.
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Yeah, I think Phoenix could slip a bit. CP3 is 37. How much of a factor is he?
They still have a great 1-2 punch with Booker and Bridges but the #1 seed again seems unlikely
 
This is a really cool look, having Washington talk about Sharpe in practices. Premiered a few hours ago, so latest intel.

 
illmatic99 said:
This is a really cool look, having Washington talk about Sharpe in practices. Premiered a few hours ago, so latest intel.

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He said he has been watching Brad Beal, Devin Booker, and Zach LaVine.
 
@hoopsjock the kid is shy man. Watch this clip. Ty Ty said he was barely talking when he got to Kentucky. He's a shy teenager.

He said he's a home body, so I don't think we'd need to worry about this guy seeking the bright lights of a bigger city.
 
Natebishop3 said:
@hoopsjock the kid is shy man. Watch this clip. Ty Ty said he was barely talking when he got to Kentucky. He's a shy teenager.
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It's wild to see a guy more introverted than even Simons was as a rookie. I really think his future success in the league will be heavily dependent on his environment, and we have a terrific one. As long as he's focused on wanting to work, he should have no trouble blossoming.
 
illmatic99 said:
It's wild to see a guy more introverted than even Simons was as a rookie. I really think his future success in the league will be heavily dependent on his environment, and we have a terrific one. As long as he's focused on wanting to work, he should have no trouble blossoming.
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Dude look at his freakin hands! Look at his body compared to Ty Ty.
 
MickZagger said:
I don’t think we’re going to trade it. Cronin’s first ever draft he want to put his stamp on things
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So you're saying he's gonna draft Sharpe and hold onto him for eternity even when it's obvious we should trade him?
 
Literally any of the above plus Mathurin. Sochan the least, if I had to choose one
 
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