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Natebishop3

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http://www.kptv.com/story/25067537/girl-suspended-for-shaving-head

A Colorado girl who shaved her head to support a friend who went bald because of cancer treatment has been told she violated her school's dress code.

Kamryn Renfro of Grand Junction shaved her head to help Delaney Clements get through chemotherapy. Kamryn at first wasn't allowed to return to classes at Caprock Academy, the charter school she attends. The academy later said she could return, but the school's board of directors is expected to discuss her situation at a meeting Tuesday evening.
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This is so completely frustrating. Have public schools in America become the worst possible version of our society? Fear of guns. Fear of conflict. Fear of expression.

What the hell kind of message are we teaching our children when we suspend them for shaving their head, when we suspend them for wearing an American flag on their shirt, when we suspend them for pretending their hand is a gun or drawing a ninja?

I do not have kids yet, but I'm honestly contemplating an alternative to public schools because I'm afraid of what they're teaching our kids.

I know we have some parents on this board. What do you guys think?
 
Natebishop3 said:
http://www.kptv.com/story/25067537/girl-suspended-for-shaving-head



This is so completely frustrating. Have public schools in America become the worst possible version of our society? Fear of guns. Fear of conflict. Fear of expression.

What the hell kind of message are we teaching our children when we suspend them for shaving their head, when we suspend them for wearing an American flag on their shirt, when we suspend them for pretending their hand is a gun or drawing a ninja?

I do not have kids yet, but I'm honestly contemplating an alternative to public schools because I'm afraid of what they're teaching our kids.

I know we have some parents on this board. What do you guys think?
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Charter Schools, Private Schools, and home schooling are the way to go.
 
I just want to know why nobody is putting a stop to this shit. The school board is elected. School funding comes from government. Start firing these people.
 
How are public schools to blame for the asinine dress code at a charter school? It's even in the quote in the OP.
 
porkchopexpress said:
How are public schools to blame for the asinine dress code at a charter school? It's even in the quote in the OP.
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Do I need to link the many other instances of this kind of shit happening in public schools? It's a trend. It's schools in general.
 
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...suspended-making-gun-finger-article-1.1710246

An Ohio boy was suspended by his school for giving a student the finger — his index finger.

Nathan Entingh, 10, was suspended from Denvonishe Alternative Elementary School last week for three days because he made a gun gesture with his hand and said “bang” when he pointed it at a student’s head.
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http://news.softpedia.com/news/8-Ye...rawing-Star-Wars-Character-Ninja-397353.shtml

An 8-year-old boy has be suspended and almost kicked out of school for drawing his favorite cartoon and film characters.

The child's parents have decided to take their son out of Scottsdale Country Day School after the headmaster warned them about the expulsion.
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http://nationalreport.net/9-year-old-suspended-saying-merry-christmas-teacher/

The ‘war on Christmas’ continues as a simple well-wishing of ‘Merry Christmas’ has led to big trouble for one fourth-grade San Francisco boy this week.

Timothy Dawson, a 9-year-old student at Anon Elementary School in San Francisco, CA., was in the school cafeteria Monday eating with friends when he was taken to the principal’s office and given a week-long suspension. His punishment was consequence for saying ‘Merry Christmas’ to his homeroom teacher earlier that morning.
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It goes on and on and on.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Do I need to link the many other instances of this kind of shit happening in public schools? It's a trend. It's schools in general.
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Ah. Any excuse to shit on gov and public schools, I guess. More like the trend is in society, and you only choose to blame/highlight public schools.
 
porkchopexpress said:
Ah. Any excuse to shit on gov and public schools, I guess. More like the trend is in society, and you only choose to blame/highlight public schools.
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Okay, so rather than admit that there is a problem in this country, you'd rather argue over semantics? Cool bro.

Do you want me to keep linking stories?
 
http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/11/living/6-year-old-suspended-kissing-girl/

A 6-year-old boy near Colorado Springs, Colorado, was suspended from school for kissing a girl on the hand. You read that correctly.
"It was during class," first-grader Hunter Yelton said in an interview with CNN affiliate KRDO. "We were doing reading group, and I leaned over and kissed her on the hand. That's what happened."
Not only did Hunter's peck get him suspended from school, but the school accused him of sexual harassment, KRDO reported.
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http://foxnewsinsider.com/2014/03/1...nt-shane-kinney-suspended-wearing-nra-t-shirt

Shane Kinney, a sophomore at Grand Island High School in upstate New York, was told to turn the shirt inside out or put duct tape over the words. When he refused to comply, Kinney was given in-school suspension.

Kinney and his family are members of the National Rifle Association. He claims to have worn that shirt and similar ones to school, and complied when they asked him to put duct tape over the writing in the past.
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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...an-flag-shirts-cinco-de-mayo-article-1.445082

A handful of California students got an unexpected lesson at their high school this week: Don't wear your stars and stripes on Cinco de Mayo.

Five Morgan Hill, California students were asked to take off their American flag bandannas and turn their T-shirts inside out after students complained, according to NBC news in San Francisco.

Many members of Live Oak High School's large Mexican-American student population that felt it was offensive for the students to wear the American flag on a day that's supposed to celebrate Mexican heritage.
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Natebishop3 said:
Okay, so rather than admit that there is a problem in this country, you'd rather argue over semantics? Cool bro.

Do you want me to keep linking stories?
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Um, problem in this country, yes. It's not semantics when the story is about the dress code at a CHARTER school, your quote has CHARTER school in it and yet you blame public schools, say if you had kids you'd contemplate an alternative to public schools, Hobb's solution is that CHARTER schools are the way to go and El Prez blames unions. Yeah, semantics.
 
porkchopexpress said:
Um, problem in this country, yes. It's not semantics when the story is about the dress code at a CHARTER school, your quote has CHARTER school in it and yet you blame public schools, say if you had kids you'd contemplate an alternative to public schools, Hobb's solution is that CHARTER schools are the way to go and El Prez blames unions. Yeah, semantics.
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Okay, so rather than acknowledge that there is a problem, you're standing there screaming about the fact that I only mentioned public schools? Seriously, get over your political bullshit and recognize that there's going to be an entire generation of kids coming down the pipe that are afraid to express themselves, afraid of offending people, and afraid of pissing off the leadership. I don't give a shit if it's public, charter, or what. It's a symptom of a bigger problem. Society has become all about fear, but the schools are just the worst embodiment of it. When we're suspending six, seven, or eight year olds because of a shirt they wear or a picture they draw, what the hell are we telling them?

Seriously, put aside your political beliefs for a minute and actually look at the big picture. Good grief.
 
We should have children log into the forum and we can educate them here.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Okay, so rather than acknowledge that there is a problem, you're standing there screaming about the fact that I only mentioned public schools? Seriously, get over your political bullshit and recognize that there's going to be an entire generation of kids coming down the pipe that are afraid to express themselves, afraid of offending people, and afraid of pissing off the leadership. I don't give a shit if it's public, charter, or what. It's a symptom of a bigger problem. Society has become all about fear, but the schools are just the worst embodiment of it. When we're suspending six, seven, or eight year olds because of a shirt they wear or a picture they draw, what the hell are we telling them?

Seriously, put aside your political beliefs for a minute and actually look at the big picture. Good grief.
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You have to admit it was a little odd that your original post was about a charter school and then you launch into a rant about public schools. If you wanted to talk about how badly public schools suck why didn't you just use one of the examples you later provided to start the thread with?
 
Natebishop3 said:
http://www.kptv.com/story/25067537/girl-suspended-for-shaving-head



This is so completely frustrating. Have public schools in America become the worst possible version of our society? Fear of guns. Fear of conflict. Fear of expression.

What the hell kind of message are we teaching our children when we suspend them for shaving their head, when we suspend them for wearing an American flag on their shirt, when we suspend them for pretending their hand is a gun or drawing a ninja?

I do not have kids yet, but I'm honestly contemplating an alternative to public schools because I'm afraid of what they're teaching our kids.

I know we have some parents on this board. What do you guys think?
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umm, I was about to get worked up right along with you, until I read it was a charter school with a dress code. I support dress codes. I am sort of surprise to see the dress code addresses this issue. Perhaps some consideration would be in order.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Okay, so rather than acknowledge that there is a problem, you're standing there screaming about the fact that I only mentioned public schools? Seriously, get over your political bullshit and recognize that there's going to be an entire generation of kids coming down the pipe that are afraid to express themselves, afraid of offending people, and afraid of pissing off the leadership. I don't give a shit if it's public, charter, or what. It's a symptom of a bigger problem. Society has become all about fear, but the schools are just the worst embodiment of it. When we're suspending six, seven, or eight year olds because of a shirt they wear or a picture they draw, what the hell are we telling them?

Seriously, put aside your political beliefs for a minute and actually look at the big picture. Good grief.
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Big picture . . . kids need structure and I am all for schools that don't mess around.

I can tell you don't have kid Nate. Because if you go to a public school and watch kids on a daily basis, the least thing you would be concerned about is kids afraid to express themselves, offending other people or afraid of pissing of leadership. Kids will push their limits and personally the more discipline the better in my book. (My friend's 10 yr old daughter just got spit on during recess and school took no action)

I know their are parents who like to talk about their kids constitutional rights and the unfairness of the school system. Some parents even take action and sue the school and teach to fight the system.

I guess every parent will have to teach their kids their own personal values, but for me it is a respect your elders and the schools and teachers are always given the presumption of being right.

Personally,I prefer private schools because I believe they are more strict and aren't afraid to take action against kids over perceived misbehavior. Kids these days feel empowered enough, nothing wrong with a school humbling a child or keeping them in check. . . but again this comes down to how people want to parent their kids.
 
Treaty_of_Batum said:
Big picture . . . kids need structure and I am all for schools that don't mess around.

I can tell you don't have kid Nate. Because if you go to a public school and watch kids on a daily basis, the least thing you would be concerned about is kids afraid to express themselves, offending other people or afraid of pissing of leadership. Kids will push their limits and personally the more discipline the better in my book. (My friend's 10 yr old daughter just got spit on during recess and school took no action)

I know their are parents who like to talk about their kids constitutional rights and the unfairness of the school system. Some parents even take action and sue the school and teach to fight the system.

I guess every parent will have to teach their kids their own personal values, but for me it is a respect your elders and the schools and teachers are always given the presumption of being right.

Personally,I prefer private schools because I believe they are more strict and aren't afraid to take action against kids over perceived misbehavior. Kids these days feel empowered enough, nothing wrong with a school humbling a child or keeping them in check. . . but again this comes down to how people want to parent their kids.
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If there's one thing Sly knows, it's going to a public school and watching kids on a daily basis.
 
BlazerWookee said:
If there's one thing Sly knows, it's going to a public school and watching kids on a daily basis.
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He just can't make it past 5th grade huh?


Although not sure what Sly going to public school has to do with my post . . . but always good to hear another fellow S2 poster underachieving.
 
BlazerWookee said:
If there's one thing Sly knows, it's going to a public school and watching kids on a daily basis.
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Says the guy bragging about how Dan Fouts got caught rushing to his apartment for a nooner.
 
Treaty_of_Batum said:
He just can't make it past 5th grade huh?


Although not sure what Sly going to public school has to do with my post . . . but always good to hear another fellow S2 poster underachieving.
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No, he can't make it past the chain-link fence around the playground. Not without getting arrested, anyway...
 
SlyPokerDog said:
You have to admit it was a little odd that your original post was about a charter school and then you launch into a rant about public schools. If you wanted to talk about how badly public schools suck why didn't you just use one of the examples you later provided to start the thread with?
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It's just culmination of all the recent stories I've seen about this kind of bullshit. It's so disheartening to read this kind of thing.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
You have to admit it was a little odd that your original post was about a charter school and then you launch into a rant about public schools. If you wanted to talk about how badly public schools suck why didn't you just use one of the examples you later provided to start the thread with?
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Charter schools are public schools. You're thinking of private schools, such as Jesuit.
 
 
PapaG said:
Charter schools are public schools. You're thinking of private schools, such as Jesuit.
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charter schools are only public schools because republicans send them state funding.

redacted for BlazingGiant.
 
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