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I took the time to rethink it, maybe Aminu isn't That bad. I mean, he's the same type of player as Demarre Carrol in some ways, both are not very skilled or talented. Demarre Carrol is a poor man's Draymond and Aminu is a poor man's Demarre Carrol. You can even take it one step further and say Draymond is a poor man's Lebron. So actually, Aminu is a poor poor poor poor man's Lebron. So maybe he isn't that bad
 
Blazer4ever said:
I took the time to rethink it, maybe Aminu isn't That bad. I mean, he's the same type of player as Demarre Carrol in some ways, both are not very skilled or talented. Demarre Carrol is a poor man's Draymond and Aminu is a poor man's Demarre Carrol. You can even take it one step further and say Draymond is a poor man's Lebron. So actually, Aminu is a poor poor poor poor man's Lebron. So maybe he isn't that bad
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What a take.
 
Blazer4ever said:
I took the time to rethink it, maybe Aminu isn't That bad. I mean, he's the same type of player as Demarre Carrol in some ways, both are not very skilled or talented. Demarre Carrol is a poor man's Draymond and Aminu is a poor man's Demarre Carrol. You can even take it one step further and say Draymond is a poor man's Lebron. So actually, Aminu is a poor poor poor poor man's Lebron. So maybe he isn't that bad
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Welcome back to reality. :)
 
OK, here it is. Yes to Aminu but as a SF, so we wouldn't have to endure watching him with Turner on the floor, instead let them both play SF.
Aminu/Turner/Layman
Harkless would play small ball 4.
 
Blazer4ever said:
OK, here it is. Yes to Aminu but as a SF, so we wouldn't have to endure watching him with Turner on the floor, instead let them both play SF.
Aminu/Turner/Layman
Harkless would play small ball 4.
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I think the rotation should basically be -Dame, CJ, Harkless, Aminu, Nurkic, Baldwin, Curry, Zach and everyone else gets “filler” minutes to see if they can prove they deserve more minutes. I’m willing to see what’s Stauskus, Trent, Simons, and Swannigan and I guess Layman have but they have their work cut out for them to get into the rotation. Meyers, no hate here but I’ve seen enough, I think he needs new scenery.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
I think the rotation should basically be -Dame, CJ, Harkless, Aminu, Nurkic, Baldwin, Curry, Zach and everyone else gets “filler” minutes to see if they can prove they deserve more minutes. I’m willing to see what’s Stauskus, Trent, Simons, and Swannigan and I guess Layman have but they have their work cut out for them to get into the rotation. Meyers, no hate here but I’ve seen enough, I think he needs new scenery.
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Completely agree.
You forgot ET though. Can we throw him in with Meyers in the "no hate here but I’ve seen enough, I think he needs new scenery" category?
 
Sam Dekker is a guy I would've liked to take a chance on instead of Stauskas. Fits into the Vonleh TPE too. Plus, he's a big SF instead of another guard. And, he's still white so Olshey could still fill his quota
 
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PtldPlatypus said:
Sign me up.
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Really? Not me. I think Meyers can possibly used as "filler" to make salaries work in a desirable trade.
Also, no matter how much I hate Turner (and it's A LOT) - or any of you hate Meyers (also A LOT) - at least he isn't Chandler Parsons! I mean - it's Chandler Fucking Parsons!!!
 
blue9 said:
Really? Not me. I think Meyers can possibly used as "filler" to make salaries work in a desirable trade.
Also, no matter how much I hate Turner (and it's A LOT) - or any of you hate Meyers (also A LOT) - at least he isn't Chandler Parsons! I mean - it's Chandler Fucking Parsons!!!
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Yeah, I think Parsons is about done in the league. Turner, as limited as he is, still has a quality move or two. Meyers has a rarity in size and shooting not easily found and thus might end up more valuable.

Also. Lets not forget we offered him a contract and he turned the other way. Would he even want to be here?

No thanks.
 
BigGameDamian said:
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2790742-how-nba-teams-can-trade-leagues-worst-contracts


  1. Charlotte Hornets Receive: PF/C Meyers Leonard, SG/SF Evan Turner (two years, $36.5 million).

    Memphis Grizzlies Receive: SG/SF Nicolas Batum (three years, $76.7 million)

    Portland Trail Blazers Receive: SF/PF Chandler Parsons (two years, $49.2 million
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PtldPlatypus said:
Sign me up.
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blue9 said:
Really? Not me. I think Meyers can possibly used as "filler" to make salaries work in a desirable trade.
Also, no matter how much I hate Turner (and it's A LOT) - or any of you hate Meyers (also A LOT) - at least he isn't Chandler Parsons! I mean - it's Chandler Fucking Parsons!!!
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The question becomes next summer what is easier to move: one big contract like Parsons or the "smaller" contracts of Turner and Leonard?

Edit: It also cuts over $4.3 million off our cap number this year and opens up a roster spot.
 
hoopsjock said:
The question becomes next summer what is easier to move: one big contract like Parsons or the "smaller" contracts of Turner and Leonard?

Edit: It also cuts over $4.3 million off our cap number this year and opens up a roster spot.
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good points.
 
BigGameDamian said:
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2790742-how-nba-teams-can-trade-leagues-worst-contracts


  1. Charlotte Hornets Receive: PF/C Meyers Leonard, SG/SF Evan Turner (two years, $36.5 million).

    Memphis Grizzlies Receive: SG/SF Nicolas Batum (three years, $76.7 million)

    Portland Trail Blazers Receive: SF/PF Chandler Parsons (two years, $49.2 million
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I'd rather take on Batum and then trade for Johnson to stagger those big contracts that will expire in 2021.

CHA Gets: Turner, Leonard,
MIA Gets: Aminu, Future 2nds
POR Gets: Batum, J.Johnson

That lineup is much better and Batum and Johnson are switchable defenders that can make plays for others and pass the ball. Sign Brandan Wright as an insurance big.

Lillard (36) / McCollum (12) / Baldwin / Simons
McCollum (23) / Curry (25) / Trent / Stauskas
Harkless (18) / Batum (30) / Layman
Johnson (30) / Harkless (12) / Collins (6) / Biggie
Nurkic (30) / Collins (18) / Wright

That's a damn good lineup. Batum would fit into that Turner playmaker role off the bench. Johnson would be a playmaker at the 4 and is a. Aminu level defender.

Everyone has bad contracts expiring in 2020. So it makes sense to have contracts expire in 2021, when GS and HOU are a year older, the cap could be bigger than 2020, and we wouldn't have to give any of our young guys an extension before then.
 
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hoopsjock said:
Edit: It also cuts over $4.3 million off our cap number this year and opens up a roster spot.
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The salary savings is the only aspect of the trade that offers us anything - and it doesn't even offer us (the fans, the team) anything...it just saves Paul a few mil.
The extra roster spot is, IMO, not worth anything - we have enough mediocre players that either need playing time but won't get it, or don't deserve playing time but will have it handed to them.
 
blue9 said:
The salary savings is the only aspect of the trade that offers us anything - and it doesn't even offer us (the fans, the team) anything...it just saves Paul a few mil.
The extra roster spot is, IMO, not worth anything - we have enough mediocre players that either need playing time but won't get it, or don't deserve playing time but will have it handed to them.
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You're kidding right?

So if Turner and Butters were off of the team that wouldn't make you ELATED?
 
dviss1 said:
You're kidding right?

So if Turner and Butters were off of the team that wouldn't make you ELATED?
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Turner? Sure! I really don't care about Meyers. He's a wasted $10M, but he seems to be a good guy who doesn't pout when he's glued to the end of the bench. Of course I'd be happier to scrub that $10M off our cap, but whatevs.
But we're not just dumping Turner - we'd be getting back CHANDLER FUCKING PARSONS. Just say his name - it should be enough to make your skin crawl.
I also think that a $10M and a $17M contract gives you more flexibility than a $24M (or whatever) contract.
 
blue9 said:
Turner? Sure! I really don't care about Meyers. He's a wasted $10M, but he seems to be a good guy who doesn't pout when he's glued to the end of the bench. Of course I'd be happier to scrub that $10M off our cap, but whatevs.
But we're not just dumping Turner - we'd be getting back CHANDLER FUCKING PARSONS. Just say his name - it should be enough to make your skin crawl.
I also think that a $10M and a $17M contract gives you more flexibility than a $24M (or whatever) contract.
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It doesn't make it crawl more than butters. Sorry.
Turner is a net negative and Parsons is now 100%.
He's a much better fit than either of them.

And a 24 million expiring contract is easily worth more.
 
dviss1 said:
It doesn't make it crawl more than butters. Sorry.
Turner is a net negative and Parsons is now 100%.
He's a much better fit than either of them.

And a 24 million expiring contract is easily worth more.
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Are you sure he is 100%? All i know is know is his stats last year sucked. I thought it was stil post injury recovery. If he is 100% and the numbers he put up last year are there, i would even be more concerned.
Wasnt parsons a net negative last year also?
 
Orion Bailey said:
Are you sure he is 100%? All i know is know is his stats last year sucked. I thought it was stil post injury recovery. If he is 100% and the numbers he put up last year are there, i would even be more concerned.
Wasnt parsons a net negative last year also?
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Yes, but he still out produced Turner when he was on the court.
 
BigGameDamian said:
https://www.blazersedge.com/2018/8/...anta-hawks-portland-trail-blazers-evan-turner

Kent Bazemore Makes a Tempting Trade Target for the Trail Blazers

Atlanta might be willing to part with the relatively expensive, but attractive, swingman. Could Portland make a relevant offer?
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Not a fan. Bazemore is more of a 2 guard and I'm just not willing to give up our first to dump turner. I'd rather save it for a potential deadline deal that could make more of an impact.

And if we keep it, next year's draft isn't great up top but pretty deep in wings / combo forwards. DeAndre Hunter, Jalen McDaniels, Jaylen Hoard and Rui Hachimura are all intriguing to me.
 
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