OT What Went Wrong with US Coronavirus Testing

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Seems to me you're a trump fan. He seems to love the government and the power it gives him to do whatever he wants.
Still think he watched people make easy money for years and wanted a piece.

People do seem to be acting like there wouldn't be any consequences of the massive layoffs we're seeing.

Watching Trump rip Acosta the other day was fabulous.

Making people panic to the point that they will attack each other isn't necessarily better than downplaying the virus.
 
Nobody said you had to read my posts...let alone, waste precious time responding to them. What, you think you're gonna change my mind?

Do you think you're gonna change mine?...stop acting like a victim and put me on ignore if you want or grow a set and quit whining.
 
I think it's funny that both of you use the, "it's not me, it's her" excuse.

I did offer to make you two your own thread to argue in.

That's bullcrap, Sly. The bottom-line is, he absolutely wants to ensure I'm aware that he despises me because I support Trump. Save the keystrokes on the personalized thread.
 
I am now a single issue voter and that single issue is to be rid of trump. :clap:
 
That's bullcrap, Sly. The bottom-line is, he absolutely wants to ensure I'm aware that he despises me because I support Trump. Save the keystrokes on the personalized thread.

You both derail threads with your arguing.
 
lol...I think that by reading between the lines I can get the gist of what you're saying.

I'm not trying to pick on either one of you, I know ABM, he's a nice guy, you seem to be a nice guy, I'm sure you both could find something you have in common.
 
See how I'm turning this into being about me.

Muhahahahaha!
 
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That's bullcrap, Sly. The bottom-line is, he absolutely wants to ensure I'm aware that he despises me because I support Trump. Save the keystrokes on the personalized thread.

Not sure how I can despise someone I've never met and more than one poster has said you're OK...but it's your views/opinions I take issue and that's all.

It's simple, if you think things are personal you're wrong...so ultimately, you can me on ignore or grow a thicker skin.
 
Not sure how I can despise someone I've never met and more than one poster has said you're OK...but it's your views/opinions I take issue and that's all.

It's simple, if you think things are personal you're wrong...so ultimately, you can me on ignore or grow a thicker skin.

Maybe you two could exchange nude pictures of your wives and agree to meet up for a 4 some when this virus stuff is over?

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I'm not trying to pick on either one of you, I know ABM, he's a nice guy, you seem to be a nice guy, I'm sure you both could find something you have in common.

That's slander !...I'll have you know that in college I majored in "Dickhead"... you will be hearing from my lawyer...he's a Bull Mastiff.
 
Not sure how I can despise someone I've never met and more than one poster has said you're OK...but it's your views/opinions I take issue and that's all.

It's simple, if you think things are personal you're wrong...so ultimately, you can me on ignore or grow a thicker skin.

Right.
 
The reason that I posted this article is that it makes clear that, as is usual, there are multiple reasons why the testing got delayed to the point that it hurt this country's response to the virus in a major way. Some of it was Trump. His ego, concerns about how it would impact his re-election campaign, and his incessant need to use every opportunity to jab political opponents, especially at a time when we need to come together against a common threat, were disruptive to the response and set the wrong tone. No leader gets everything right in a time of a major national challenge, but Trump certainly got more wrong than right, IMO. That said, there were the usual built-in bureaucratic problems, combined with simple mistakes, at CDC and FDA that fouled up the development and distribution of tests. CDC, as is their usual mode of operation, decided to develop their own test rather than use ones developed elsewhere. Things went wrong with the one that they developed. FDA was at its usual bureaucratic best in refusing to approve the use of private sector tests due to concerns about inaccurate or fraudulent testing.

If you don't like Trump, and count me among those who don't, you get a chance next fall to make a change. At some point, there needs to be a look at all of the things that went wrong here. CDC and FDA need some changes to their policies. We need to develop national or state caches of medical supplies and ventilators. We need plans in place to convert buildings to emergency hospital use quickly. One thing that I think we will learn from this is that pandemics are likely to become more common in our modern world where people are constantly traveling. Mutations happen all the time in nature, but prior to the modern era, many times their impacts were more local. Now, an outbreak in one part of the world is carried around the globe in weeks. We need to plan better how we can deal with them. Quicker means of developing and distributing vaccines need to be found. We need better anti-viral medicines. Things like sheltering in place and self-isolation are sledgehammer techniques that can slow, but not eliminate viral illnesses. In the meantime, they destroy economies and damage the ability of the poorest among us to remain fed, housed, and able to be cared for. We've got some work to do when this is finally over.
 
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Never said they weren't. But we have to make sure that as Americans we're working together instead of devolving into every state for themselves.
I agree, but the job of a leader is to protect his people. The leader of our state is trying to protect his people by keeping a more infected area out, and keeping as many hospital beds open for Texans.

Also, there is precedent of sorts at work also. During Katrina, Houston opened up the Astrodome to LA victims. All that did was lead to a crime rate explosion.
 
I agree, but the job of a leader is to protect his people. The leader of our state is trying to protect his people by keeping a more infected area out, and keeping as many hospital beds open for Texans.

Also, there is precedent of sorts at work also. During Katrina, Houston opened up the Astrodome to LA victims. All that did was lead to a crime rate explosion.

I totally get all that.

Again, my original point is that a state like LA doesn't have the budget or resources to compete with a state like Texas. That could have unexpected consequences for states like Texas.

Seems like instead of making LA and Texas compete for resources the feds should be helping them to secure what they need without outbidding each other for them.
 
Really? You're arguing against my "it's not me, it's her" statement by saying it's not you but her?
It's not him. He doesn't usually drop it but it is clearly the other guy. The non Blazer fan....that guy. I know you guys skim 3000 posts a day for infractions but come on. Anyone who reads the threads for content knows how this has gone.
 
I totally get all that.

Again, my original point is that a state like LA doesn't have the budget or resources to compete with a state like Texas. That could have unexpected consequences for states like Texas.

Seems like instead of making LA and Texas compete for resources the feds should be helping them to secure what they need without outbidding each other for them.
Oh, then I missed your point. I completely agree. Asinine to have not only states bidding against each other, but the federal government bidding against those states as well
 
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Oh, then I missed your point. I completely agree. Asine to have not only states bidding against each other, but the federal government bidding against those states as well
But seems perfect for Trump. Then he can shift blame to individual states. Most likely blue states. And will say hey, people too stupid to understand the truth and hang on my nuts, your family members are dying because of the bad people of California and NY hoarding all the masks.
 

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