What would Lopez be worth now?

[Pinwheel1]

I think Lopez, if keeping his production like he is now, would demand the equivalent of a Splitter type contract. Obviously in a couple years, that maybe a little more than what Splitter got this season.

My scenario was actually more than Splitter got. (But it was for one year less) Splitter got 4 years as he was a FA. I am saying 3 more at 10 per, plus his salary next year, would equal having him for 4 more years. But Robin's salary each year after next would be for more than Spiltters

 

[cmeese47]

I consider myself very knowledgeable about the game......pretty much a genius, but the O and D rating thing flat out confuses me! He could keep his averages what they are right now and I will be thrilled!

Offensive and Defensive rating are among the easiest advanced stats to follow. Assuming Nate's numbers on Lopez are correct then he scores 123 points per 100 possessions. While giving up 105 points on a similar 100 possessions. (Although the exact formula is quite complex)

The offensive number ties closely with usage though lower the usage the easier it is to post high numbers.

Defensive number ties in with the team and tends to favor bigs.

 

[Draco]

Big men always command a premium and I think given his current trajectory $12-$15 is not unreasonable by the end of next year. Which brings up a bigger question, how do we afford all these guys as time goes on? Do they love playing with eachother and here enough to take pay cuts? Does Paul pay whatever it takes to keep the talent and chemistry together?

If the team continues to play at the level of a contender as they are now it could be a big problem in a year and a half. Aldridge gets the max, just over $20 million. Lopez gets over $10 million, maybe closer to $14 million. Wes gets over $10 million again maybe as high as $14 million. Lillard gets a max extension that same summer; if not someone will pay him nearly that amount as a restricted free agent. Batum is on the books for over $12 million, but will be due for a new contract the following summer in 2016 and likely command a raise. We would like to add an MLE free agent this summer in 2014.

It’s unlikely we will be able to resign all those guys and not go into the luxury tax. But Paul Allen has been pretty adamant he won’t go far into the tax any more, he will spend crazy money on cancer research but not sports teams, and I believe him that his free spending days are gone.

After locking up our starters this team could be up against the tax and unable to sign other players. They may have to decline to match an extension for an improved TRob, or a 6th man of the year CJ McCollum when their rookie contracts end. We saw this with the Spurs having to dump George Hill and the Bulls having to let Asik walk.

The good news is we have all of this season and all of next season with players locked into underpaid contracts. As another poster said we are getting production from these guys in their prime years. Will they be as productive towards the end of their next contracts? Maybe, maybe not. But this is the flip side to all the payroll flexibility this team has in a year and a half. We don’t have anyone locked into contracts, either bad contracts or good contracts. The better the team plays the more money all our players will command as free agents.

 

[cmeese47]

Paying Lopez 12 million is just asking for major issues. He is a nice value right now but anything more than 8 million and you have seriously hamstrung this team going forward.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Paying Lopez 12 million is just asking for major issues. He is a nice value right now but anything more than 8 million and you have seriously hamstrung this team going forward.

8 might be a little low. Not by much, but a little bit. You certainly do not want to lose him over a 1-2 million difference.

Effective centers are not abundant. If he stays healthy you have to lock him up or you will lose him. Keep in mind 8 mil is half what his twin makes. But I get what you are saying. But we do have the luxury of waiting.

 

[blue9]

Olshey needs to sit down with LMA, Nic, and Lopez and explain to them that they'll all be better off by sacrificing 10% of their next contract. I don't know the rules for incentives, but maybe add that 10% back in the form of Playoff incentives. Is that a viable way to give us more of the salary cap to work with?

 

[BigGameDamian]

Paying Lopez 12 million is just asking for major issues. He is a nice value right now but anything more than 8 million and you have seriously hamstrung this team going forward.

Yep I agree. Lopez isn't worth 12 mill you better give some of that to Aldridge.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Olshey needs to sit down with LMA, Nic, and Lopez and explain to them that they'll all be better off by sacrificing 10% of their next contract. I don't know the rules for incentives, but maybe add that 10% back in the form of Playoff incentives. Is that a viable way to give us more of the salary cap to work with?

My understanding is that it is not. You pay them, then it counts.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Olshey needs to sit down with LMA, Nic, and Lopez and explain to them that they'll all be better off by sacrificing 10% of their next contract. I don't know the rules for incentives, but maybe add that 10% back in the form of Playoff incentives. Is that a viable way to give us more of the salary cap to work with?

My understanding is that it is not. You pay them, then it counts.

Incentives absolutely can be part of a contract (up to 15% of the contract's base), and can give a team more cap room if the player allows for a reduced base salary. But we would need them to be "unlikely" incentives (ie, something that hadn't been accomplished the season before). Such as, perhaps, a bonus for winning a championship. The main thing is that the value of the contract--including unlikely incentives--must be able to fit in a team's salary cap or available exception for the cap year in which it is signed; after that, the "unlikely" incentives do not count against a team's cap number.

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q72

 

[Natebishop3]

Okay, so the contract talk is part of what this thread is about, but mostly I'm just blown away at the trade offers that Houston is getting for Asik.

We got Rolo for two bottles of Bud Light and a Mars bar.

If we decided to trade Lopez tomorrow, I wonder what kind of offers we would get (not saying we should AT ALL, just curious).

 

[Blazinaway]

Okay, so the contract talk is part of what this thread is about, but mostly I'm just blown away at the trade offers that Houston is getting for Asik.

We got Rolo for two bottles of Bud Light and a Mars bar.

If we decided to trade Lopez tomorrow, I wonder what kind of offers we would get (not saying we should AT ALL, just curious).

let's wait and see about those "supposed" offers HOU is getting for Asik, the Morey smoke machne is likely in high gear right now, I don't believe anything here

 

[VanillaGorilla]

Was this posted in the game thread yesterday?

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[Draco]

let's wait and see about those "supposed" offers HOU is getting for Asik, the Morey smoke machne is likely in high gear right now, I don't believe anything here

Yeah exactly. All we are hearing is how they need to have this type of PF or that type of draft pick in order to trade Asik. By their self imposed Thursday deadline maybe the best offer they get is a second round pick?

I think its kind of interesting that they are intent on trading him to an eastern team, but allowing enough time for all player to be repackaged in trades. Philly isn’t going to care if they re-trade him to a west team? So by the deadline Asik could be back in a neighboring Texas town on the Mavs or any other west playoff team shutting down the Rockets playoff run.