Notice What would you grade the season in retrospect? (1 Viewer)

[Strenuus]

At the all star break we were 6 games over .500 which put us in the playoffs at that stage. Not sure how you can figure that as an f. That gtradd would be for teams like Atlanta, Phoenix, Memphis etc.

A C for being inconstient... They werent great even if 6 games over .500.

 

[riverman]

A C for being inconstient.

That's the Nets forum!

 

[CupWizier]

A C for being inconstient... They werent great even if 6 games over .500.

We all have various opinions, but you don't flunk when you are in the upper portion of class and majority are below you which was my point in the other post.

 

[Strenuus]

We all have various opinions, but you don't flunk when you are in the upper portion of class and majority are below you which was my point in the other post.

I get all the school analogies, and it kind of works. But really, the only one that truly works is that you procrastinated as fuck and then bombed the mess out of the final, barely passing.

 

[CupWizier]

I get all the school analogies, and it kind of works. But really, the only one that truly works is that you procrastinated as fuck and then bombed the mess out of the final, barely passing.

Like I mentioned above, we all have various opinions and we can agree to disagree. What grade would you give Denver? They finished below us, weren't invited to the next level so it should be a worst grade and why I disagreed with the person that said the season was an F.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Like I mentioned above, we all have various opinions and we can agree to disagree. What grade would you give Denver? They finished below us, weren't invited to the next level so it should be a worst grade and why I disagreed with the person that said the season was an F.

What was Denver's ambitions this year though? Probably to make the playoffs like us, but to be in the top four?

I think the grading by most is also based on the expectations they had going into the season. Teams below us more than likely didn't have as high of expectations so thus they wouldn't grade themselves worse than us.

Id say though that Minni probably gave themselves a worse grade than us. I think they had thoughts of being a top 3 in the West.

I think the grading is like a sliding scale based on preseason expectations and isnt as simple or accurate as to say anyone who finished below us should be graded worse(I know that isnt what you said verbatum).

 

[CupWizier]

What was Denver's ambitions this year though? Probably to make the playoffs like us, but to be in the top four?

I think the grading by most is also based on the expectations they had going into the season. Teams below us more than likely didn't have as high of expectations so thus they wouldn't grade themselves worse than us.

Id say though that Minni probably gave themselves a worse grade than us. I think they had thoughts of being a top 3 in the West.

I think the grading is like a sliding scale based on preseason expectations and isnt as simple or accurate as to say anyone who finished below us should be graded worse(I know that isnt what you said verbatum).

and again I will say, we all have various opinions. I don't see where expectations (especially by fans) should have anything to do with it as results are the only way to grade a teams season IMO. Our results were better than all but 2 other teams in the west during the regular season and tied for 6th over all. Yes, the playoffs were horrible but teams like Phoenix, Atlanta, Sacramento and Memphis were horrible all year so I can't see how anyone can justify giving the Blazers an f when there are several teams that were just plain awful. As for the potential part, ost preseason rankings had the Blazers out of the playoffs and teams like OKC, San Antonio, Denver and Minnesota were all ranked ahead of the Blazers. If I was a teacher and had a student that wasn't very smart but slightly exceeded my expectations and another student who is extremely smart but was lazy and blew a test after pretty much acing every other test who should I give the better grade to?

Just for fun how would you grade San Antonio, OKC, Minnesota and Denver? and I guess I don't remember seeing it, how would you grade the Blazers.

 

[Orion Bailey]

and again I will say, we all have various opinions. I don't see where expectations (especially by fans) should have anything to do with it as results are the only way to grade a teams season IMO. Our results were better than all but 2 other teams in the west during the regular season and tied for 6th over all. Yes, the playoffs were horrible but teams like Phoenix, Atlanta, Sacramento and Memphis were horrible all year so I can't see how anyone can justify giving the Blazers an f when there are several teams that were just plain awful. As for the potential part, ost preseason rankings had the Blazers out of the playoffs and teams like OKC, San Antonio, Denver and Minnesota were all ranked ahead of the Blazers. If I was a teacher and had a student that wasn't very smart but slightly exceeded my expectations and another student who is extremely smart but was lazy and blew a test after pretty much acing every other test who should I give the better grade to?

Just for fun how would you grade San Antonio, OKC, Minnesota and Denver? and I guess I don't remember seeing it, how would you grade the Blazers.

That is a good point about the preseason national media expections of the teams in the west compared to how it played out.

I gave them a C, i think like most.

I agree that they were better than an F.

I think the most frustrating thing to us fans is the inconsistency. There were moments and times last season where it seemed like we had all the tools, but then those tools get lost for a stretch.
Probably the largest contributor to the below average grades.

 

[Orion Bailey]

San antonio- D with an asterisk because of kawhi

Denver - C. i think they are about where they should be based on thier roster.

Minni - C-. If butler doesnt go down, i think they finish ahead of us and continue to gel and know roles and improve going into the playoffs.

OKC - C. Never expected much. Too top heavy of a roster with an extremely innefient player as thier number 1.

 

[CupWizier]

That is a good point about the preseason national media expections of the teams in the west compared to how it played out.

I gave them a C, i think like most.

I agree that they were better than an F.

I think the most frustrating thing to us fans is the inconsistency. There were moments and times last season where it seemed like we had all the tools, but then those tools get lost for a stretch.
Probably the largest contributor to the below average grades.

In the west, inconsistency was pretty much the norm though as every team had ups and downs in the west not named Houston or GS. Even GS had some inconsistencies during the season in comparison to what was expected.

 

[BonesJones]

lol, don't you know that we were the only team that played other teams with injured players during the season. I give the season a solid B even though the playoffs were disappointing. We were in a slump and Pelicans were hot at the time. Another factor nobody mentions is going into the playoffs our best player just had his first baby (a son at that) as well as having his brother shot at Clackamas Town Center. Nobody knows what his mindset was like going into the playoffs and could have lead to his struggles.

You know Dame doesn't make excuses. So why are you making excuses for Dame? What's with all the excuses?

 

[BonesJones]

In the west, inconsistency was pretty much the norm though as every team had ups and downs in the west not named Houston or GS. Even GS had some inconsistencies during the season in comparison to what was expected.

Inconsistency is one thing... to have HCA in the playoffs and not even be competitive while getting swept is another.

 

[BonesJones]

C-.

Good 13-game stretch. Awful post-season. Might be a D+.

This off-season will probably be just as bad as the season. C or D coming up this summer then another bad season before changes are made.

 

[riverman]

Inconsistency is one thing... to have HCA in the playoffs and not even be competitive while getting swept is another.

We were competitive for 2 of those losses...the other 2 were really bad showings

 

[CupWizier]

You know Dame doesn't make excuses. So why are you making excuses for Dame? What's with all the excuses?

3 questions.

Have you ever had the birth of your first son?

Have you ever had a brother shot at a mall or a similar place?

Do you know what Lillards mindset was after those two things happened?

Please drop the tude if you want a discussion.

 

[BonesJones]

3 questions.

Have you ever had the birth of your first son?

Have you ever had a brother shot at a mall or a similar place?

Do you know what Lillards mindset was after those two things happened?

Please drop the tude if you want a discussion.

That fact that you think that post had "tude" is telling. Dame wouldn't make excuses, why are you making excuses for him... That's all I'm posting and you think that has attitude? Lmao. Wow.

A.) He wouldn't use that as an excuse
B.) He wouldn't use that as an excuse
C.) I know that his mindset would've been to not make excuses.

If you think Dame played bad because the other teams' gameplan, fine. If you think he played bad because Stotts didn't adjust to that gameplan, fine. If you think he played bad because he's overrated, fine. But there's a few people that are giving excuses for everything that went wrong, when our best player is a "no-excuse" type. You could make up all these excuses about his mindset and tell them to him thinking you're being kind, and he'd probably tell you to not make excuses for him, or the team in general.

 

[BonesJones]

We were competitive for 2 of those losses...the other 2 were really bad showings

We were down 15 points in 3 out of 4 games. And getting swept means you weren't competitive in the series as a whole. Yeah, maybe in a game here or there, things were close. But in terms of the playoff series, we were very noncompetitive.

 

[CupWizier]

That fact that you think that post had "tude" is telling. Dame wouldn't make excuses, why are you making excuses for him... That's all I'm posting and you think that has attitude? Lmao. Wow.

A.) He wouldn't use that as an excuse
B.) He wouldn't use that as an excuse
C.) I know that his mindset would've been to not make excuses.

If you think Dame played bad because the other teams' gameplan, fine. If you think he played bad because Stotts didn't adjust to that gameplan, fine. If you think he played bad because he's overrated, fine. But there's a few people that are giving excuses for everything that went wrong, when our best player is a "no-excuse" type. You could make up all these excuses about his mindset and tell them to him thinking you're being kind, and he'd probably tell you to not make excuses for him, or the team in general.

a) fact

b) fact

c) fact

I had plenty of good conversations today and don't need this one. Have a nice night.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

I think Minni and Denver would probably give themselves worse grades than us but also be able to say hey we lost one of our best players for a large part of the season, (millsap and JimmyB), Lillard misses a few games and maybe needed to miss more to let his ankles heal up.
I think Utah, LAC, New Orleans would give themselves better grades. I think if you asked a clipper fan (if you can find one) how they would do without CP3 and Blake griffin and they would probably guess they should’ve had a lot more ping pong balls.

 

[CupWizier]

We were competitive for 2 of those losses...the other 2 were really bad showings

actually 3 out of 4

1st game 2 point loss

2nd game tied with 3 minutes tio go

3rd game blow out loss

4th game 2 points behind with 3 minutes to go.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

actually 3 out of 4

1st game 2 point loss

2nd game tied with 3 minutes tio go

3rd game blow out loss

4th game 2 points behind with 3 minutes to go.

Honestly outside of game 1, it never felt like while watching that the Blazers were better than them that night or were going to win. Sure the score in game 2 and 4 were “close” down the wire but the games all seemed to be played at The Pelicans pace, the Pelicans dictated the style the schemes everything about all those games felt like Stotts was being completely out coached.

 

[BonesJones]

a) fact

b) fact

c) fact

I had plenty of good conversations today and don't need this one. Have a nice night.

Nice little passive aggressive jab there. I can do that too. Thanks for making this forum more like O-Live.

 

[CupWizier]

Honestly outside of game 1, it never felt like while watching that the Blazers were better than them that night or were going to win. Sure the score in game 2 and 4 were “close” down the wire but the games all seemed to be played at The Pelicans pace, the Pelicans dictated the style the schemes everything about all those games felt like Stotts was being completely out coached.

it was only to point out that all but one game was close and anytime you are within 2 or tied with 3 minutes to go, it's anyone's game. People were saying we weren't competitive at all and the numbers show otherwise. I remember Kenny Smith doing an evaluation of scores in games. He said if you break it down into 4 seperate games and lose each game by 3 points which is a close game, the final score is by 12 but you were competitive in all quarters and within reach in all 4. In the NBA and 3 point shooting capabilities leads evaporate quickly and why we have seen 25 point leads turnaround and end up being 12 point losses.

 

[BonesJones]

Guys, we were competitive in some games of a series we got swept in. Maybe next year that'll translate into winning a game.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

it was only to point out that all but one game was close and anytime you are within 2 or tied with 3 minutes to go, it's anyone's game. People were saying we weren't competitive at all and the numbers show otherwise. I remember Kenny Smith doing an evaluation of scores in games. He said if you break it down into 4 seperate games and lose each game by 3 points which is a close game, the final score is by 12 but you were competitive in all quarters and within reach in all 4. In the NBA and 3 point shooting capabilities leads evaporate quickly and why we have seen 25 point leads turnaround and end up being 12 point losses.

This is all feelings (and I recognize that), but it felt like the Blazers best players never found their rhythm. The Pelicans beat them up, they wanted it more, like the Blazers got hit in the mouth never adjusted, and just kept getting hit in the mouth. They had their chances, and never answered the call. Close games in score, but seemed demoralizing. With as bad as the Blazers "best 3 players" played, it was actually somewhat incredible they did make those games close.
So I guess I get what you're saying, but this series seemed like a really bad dream.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

s2 Grades:
Everyone who missed the playoffs: F
Everyone who lost in the first round: D
Everyone who lost in the second round: C
Cleveland: C
Boston: B
GS, Houston: A-

 

[Hobbesarable]

You know Dame doesn't make excuses. So why are you making excuses for Dame? What's with all the excuses?

I think this post, imo, is direct and to the point.

Everybody has something going on in their lives. We all have our ups and downs. Dame strikes me as a very private and professional guy. I like that about him!

 

[CupWizier]

s2 Grades:
Everyone who missed the playoffs: F
Everyone who lost in the first round: D
Everyone who lost in the second round: C
Cleveland: C
Boston: B
GS, Houston: A-

lol, I'd hate to have you as a teacher. Only 2 A- and only 1 B out of a class of 30?

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

lol, I'd hate to have you as a teacher. Only 2 A- and only 1 B out of a class of 30?

In this case it depends what the goal was, it was very obvious a lot of teams were tanking for the draft even in early in the season. Phoenix might give themselves a B, because they got the #1 pick.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

lol, I'd hate to have you as a teacher. Only 2 A- and only 1 B out of a class of 30?

Those are s2 grades, I gave the Blazers a B, mostly for improved defense, which I find to be more important than some.