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ABM said:
Trump has a LONG way to go in this regard. Taking baby steps, though, I suppose.

https://www.vox.com/2020/6/16/21292816/trump-police-reform-executive-order-explained
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Yeah right. Donald effing Trump, the Lawbreaker In Chief is gonna change my opinion on law enforcement. It’s on law enforcement and law enforcement only to change public opinion. Funny how you’re okay with Trump breaking laws, but gosh, nail any other law breaker to the cross. Sorry, but you’ve achieved the almost impossible; you’ve made a caricature out of yourself. Donald Trump (And those who enable him) is the problem, not the solution.
 
UncleCliffy'sDaddy said:
. Maybe those county crybabies should take a proactive approach rather than a Trump like “Nobody likes me” attitude.
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I would suggest that their response is less "nobody likes me", and more, "it would be irresponsible and dangerous to place our people into a situation without reasonable and necessary support".
 
PtldPlatypus said:
I would suggest that their response is less "nobody likes me", and more, "it would be irresponsible and dangerous to place our people into a situation without reasonable and necessary support".
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I'm glad firemen and rescue workers don't have that mindset nor first responders in emergency rooms dealing with covid patients.......it's part of the job...the risk is always there
 
riverman said:
I'm glad firemen and rescue workers don't have that mindset nor first responders in emergency rooms dealing with covid patients.......it's part of the job...the risk is always there
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Firemen do have that mindset if a building isn't structurally sound. That's an excellent analogy. A fire fighter wouldn't run into a building with no floor or load-bearing walls. They put themselves in harm's way, but within reason.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Firemen do have that mindset if a building isn't structurally sound. That's an excellent analogy. A fire fighter wouldn't run into a building with no floor or load-bearing walls. They put themselves in harm's way, but within reason.
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My point is they do their job and accept the risks....just like front line soldiers...it's the job to be in harm's way to protect the public. During hurricanes, floods, pandemics, nurses and rescue people take amazingly daring risks with their own lives to save others...police should be no different...a child drowning doesn't have time to wait for backup for example...twin towers was never going to be stable to rescue people from but they sure did their best saving many lives often sacrificing their own
 
PtldPlatypus said:
I would suggest that their response is less "nobody likes me", and more, "it would be irresponsible and dangerous to place our people into a situation without reasonable and necessary support".
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Given that they were called in as backup, that seems pretty silly.

"Oh, sorry, our fire truck can't go to that fire. You only have one truck there already, so it would be too dangerous for us. Please call back when you have the fire extinguished, and we'll consider coming over"

barfo
 
barfo said:
Given that they were called in as backup, that seems pretty silly.

"Oh, sorry, our fire truck can't go to that fire. You only have one truck there already, so it would be too dangerous for us. Please call back when you have the fire extinguished, and we'll consider coming over"

barfo
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There's a difference, nobody's shooting at the firetruck or it would probably stay away.
Police are known to stay away from situations they cannot handle. They only go to those kind of situations unless they have the numbers to handle things. You see, police don't like to get killed either unless they have a fighting chance.
 
Lanny said:
Police are known to stay away from situations they cannot handle.
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If only that were generally true. There seem to be a lot of situations cops can't handle, but try and fail anyway.

They only go to those kind of situations unless they have the numbers to handle things.
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You are kind of missing the point here. The county guys were asked in so that there would be sufficient numbers to handle things.

barfo
 
barfo said:
If only that were generally true. There seem to be a lot of situations cops can't handle, but try and fail anyway.



You are kind of missing the point here. The county guys were asked in so that there would be sufficient numbers to handle things.

barfo
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No, I did not miss that point. I was responding to your general statement comparing police to the fire department. I know very well why Washington and Clackamas counties refused to support the mayor and it had to do with what they viewed as a lack of political support which is a whole different issue which I've been too lazy to critically think through. I guess I just don't care that much whether Clackamas or Washington county police support Portland police or not. I've got too much else going on in my life.
 
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Looks like they are having some fun down under too.
 
Antifa Fire Dance!
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i hope it was the guy that dumped that paint over the senior granny’s head!
 

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ABM said:
So what if I cite links that show clear opposition to Ted Wheeler? Please explain this confirmation bias thingy to me in this context. New links, polls, petitions show up all the time. So what?

I mean, even this recent local Portland article appears to be addressing this issue. Meanwhile, I've been maintaining all along that Ted Wheeler is an abject failure as Mayor of Portland, OR. Strong words? Sure. But there is supporting information out there to at least make it a compelling accusation.

https://katu.com/news/local/portland-mayor-pushes-back-against-calls-for-his-resignation#:~:text=— Several civil rights groups are,to the violence in Portland.
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Abject. As in abject.

https://www.wweek.com/news/2020/09/...ngh-has-come-to-a-hard-conclusion-he-must-go/
 
Rioting protester is set ablaze by his OWN Molotov cocktail in Portland as the city is convulsed by the 100th night of BLM demonstrations and unrest breaks out across the nation
  • Portland marked its 100th night of protests on Saturday as hundreds took the streets and clashed with law enforcement
  • One man caught on fire after he was hit with a Molotov cocktail and police labeled the event a 'riot'


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...otests-Saturday-chaotic-summer-grinds-on.html
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Rioting protester is set ablaze by his OWN Molotov cocktail in Portland as the city is convulsed by the 100th night of BLM demonstrations and unrest breaks out across the nation
  • Portland marked its 100th night of protests on Saturday as hundreds took the streets and clashed with law enforcement
  • One man caught on fire after he was hit with a Molotov cocktail and police labeled the event a 'riot'


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...otests-Saturday-chaotic-summer-grinds-on.html
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What an idiot
 


Antifa clowns are comedy gold. So much good material coming out of P-town right now!
 
Somehow I don't think that guy is too bright.
 
andalusian said:
America had many bad nights. All run by a con-man Republican President. Get the picture?
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Oh please. First its, stay out of our cities feds!!!

Now its their fault when shit just continues?

Sorry cant have it both ways... calling this out as a bs.... Like so many lefty spins.


I'm starting to understand now the fake news rhetoric. Its legit.


So is TDS.
 
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And you wonder why people come at you bro??
 
andalusian said:
America had many bad nights. All run by a con-man Republican President. Get the picture?
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Pretty hard to blame Trump for riots that are 100% started, and participated in by people on the left. It’s like the people on the left claiming they’re “worried” about there being more unrest if Trump is re-elected. They aren’t actually expressing concern, they are making a poorly-veiled threat. A promise to cause more strife if they don’t get their way. It’s like if I said I was “worried” I might beat up my wife if I get drunk - with a beer in my hand.

It’s total bullshit.
 
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someones trolling hard again because they cant come up with a legit argument in opposition of what I say is right vs wrong.

Typical.....
 
jonnyboy said:
Pretty hard to blame Trump for riots that are 100% started, and participated in by people on the left. It’s like the people on the left claiming they’re “worried” about there being more unrest if Trump is re-elected. They aren’t actually expressing concern, they are making a poorly-veiled threat. A promise to cause more strife if they don’t get their way. It like if I said I was “worried” I might beat up my wife if I get drunk - with a beer in my hand.

It’s total bullshit.
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Hey that sounds like you are describing fascism to me. And you say that one of the groups doing this is antifa? Anti fascism?


Hmmmm....
 
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